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#177693 by Vampier
Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:56 am
... Dane, I feel I owe you an apology having misjudged your words and I thank you for the delightful clarification. This is a hard place at times and tends to make one think first of aggression instead of taking things at face value.

Jim Jones ... interesting. When I first came to San Francisco I lived in my car ...a ford Maverick , with my cat and Dog as I saved money to get my first warehouse there...an old fortune cookie factory on Hoff St. between 16th and 17th and Mission and Valencia (in the Mission). I rang up the recycling companie as I have loads of paper fortunes to get rid of and some pallets. They sent over John King (A Small Name In Darts) with his truck. He was from Hull in Northern England and since I had been in Manchester for several years we actually knew a few of the people in the music scene and most probably been to some of the same parties. John drove the Eurythmics around on their very first tour of the US.

We became good friends and are still to this day. He rocks down to visit me quite a bit and brings me materials ti use here. He makes his living packing parachutes. At that time he was a recycler in SF and invited me to is Birthday Party. He lived in Noe Valley with his Japanese?Hawaiian girlfriend...Joyce and her sister Sandy and Sandy's boyfriend ... Larry Huddleston (who was in reality Larry Layton.

At that time I knew nothing of any of this and showed up at John's Partywith a case of the big Beck's bottles. I rang the bell and Joyce answered and John from inside said who is it as she let me in and as I came into the crowded room Joyce remarked it is Stephan and he has brought Beck's/ I then said well it is better than koolaid to which the entire room fell silent and everyone looked at me in alarm. John grabbed me and ushered me out to the patio laughing as he explained.

Larry was out on bail and eventually went to Pelican Island for a bit. Now he is out but I have not seen him for quite a long time. Ta
#177700 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:04 pm
Vampier wrote:... The Garret Tightens and the "Great Unwashed" still parties on and discusses the merits of various kinds of feces and which one they prefer. ???

Political filth is Political filth ... they ALL lie and have Hidden Agendas ...they all stink and are bad for one's health. Slacker and PaperDog are correct regarding so much, yet most do not truly hear them. It is little wonder that insults fly ...for they are born of frustration and ignorance and sometimes both.

It is a sick and sordid game in which the "players" are blind and unaware of the "score" and who is truly winning. Most of us are merely livestock and soon the "Great Culling" will begin in earnest. Will you be joking about that and the extinction of your families as well ??? I wonder but sadly I believe that many will up until the last moment.

Tomorrow Mexico has it's "elections". Which scumbag puppet will be elected ? It matters not. Soon all of Mexico will be Vichy-Mexico and the mockery that is the Mexican Constitution will go the way of the American Constitution and disappear after dismemberment.

The American Middle Class that are armed and believe in Freedom along with the Veterans are the last big obstacle for the "One World Government" to overcome . If you can not discern this at this moment in time then you are lost and it is far too late for you, your Family and your collective futures.

Obama Healthcare does not warrant any serious discussion, it is nothing more than another Lie with a hidden agenda. Perhaps it might be more worthwhile to discuss his Mother spreadeagled on the couch of his real Father. ??? Once again wonders what is truth and what is fantasy ???

Ta



COOL!!!!
AS Long as there are a few people thinking and standing up for what is truly RIGHT,,,,
Then I don't have load my guns,,,, JUST YET.

I don't want to put down my guitar, just to pick up my shotgun,,, BUT,,,,,

#177701 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:55 pm
Just to really mess around with your thoughts,,,,,
In the beginning God created man in his own image. YEAH RIGHT!
After a while he realized he made a mistake. (can you imagine God making a mistake?)
He forgot to give us the same thing our country was founded on,, the very thing that separates us from a boring flock of sheep,, God was probably yawning by then.
So in Gods infinite wisdom he devised a plan to fix this mistake.
Eve got her hands on a lush and ripe apple.... Now every one still blames Eve for tempting that guy Adam, but once again you all get it wrong.
You see Eve was a loving, caring, sharing, wonderful woman. All she wanted to do was share what God wanted her to share.
Women are really cool ,aren't they.

Any way many years later this guy named bloomberg became the mayor of New York City. He likes the job so much that he HAD THE RULES CHANGED so he could remain mayor.
Now that's O.K. Right? We are all supposed to be sheep, and the LAW is the LAW. COOL!

Well this anal pore also thinks it is righteous to decide if you should be allowed to have a 32 ounce soft drink.
This is a perfect example of government getting involved in your personal freedoms.

FREEDOM AND CHOICE COME FROM GOD. !!!!!!!!!
(get it?)
#177730 by Vampier
Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:47 pm
...Glen ...I thank you for your Posts. It seems that by even demonstrating a point by the colorful usage of language fails to reach even many. Their reasoning capabilities are almost nigh and they seem to prefer to be told what to do, think and drink.

They are unable to add even two plus two. My friend "Big Fat Joe" in Sonoma CA who was a veteran from VietNam was awesome. When people would look at him puzzeled after he made some acute observation and statement he would look them in the eye and no matter where he was ... a bank, the police station or at a party ... he would say rather loudly over and over until they turned away ..."Baaa Baaaa Baaa" It was great and oh so appropriate. TA
#177828 by DainNobody
Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:21 am
Vampier wrote:...your own path. We seek others of the same ilk,a select few to join us. Musicians, Dancers and related "techies"... video, audio and such. This is not set in stone like the Georgia Guide Stones, but you must have something of value to offer. We seek to make contact with others and groups of others who can now "see the writing on the wall". We do not subscribe to any religion but we are spiritual ...along the lines of many "Native Americans". We are gathering near the US/Mexico Border. We welcome interest from anyone, anywhere in the world. Our song is a Forever Song. It is a Symphony of Blood for Blood is the Life. We return to the source. , WE ARE THE ARMIE OF SEVEN

the Native American way of life must have been about as harmonious of life as a person could imagine..while the white men to date have a society with high tax rates, a dirty society, full of radiation poisoning, chemical dump sites, Lake Erie catching fire back in the 1960's, a debt load that will be hard to balance, let alone pay down, while Indians paid no taxes, had no huge debt to pay off, hunted and fished all day long, and all land was held like a commons.. who really is the smart society then?, the technologically advanced white man or the Native American way of life
#177841 by JCP61
Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:33 am
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
the Native American way of life must have been about as harmonious of life as a person could imagine..while the white men to date have a society with high tax rates, a dirty society, full of radiation poisoning, chemical dump sites, Lake Erie catching fire back in the 1960's, a debt load that will be hard to balance, let alone pay down, while Indians paid no taxes, had no huge debt to pay off, hunted and fished all day long, and all land was held like a commons.. who really is the smart society then?, the technologically advanced white man or the Native American way of life


it's not like you can't move to Wyoming, live in a tent,
eat animals you yourself kill and wipe your ass with your hand,
I mean if that's your idea of a good time.
just make sure you don't eat your donkey the same week you need a dentist.

#177912 by DainNobody
Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:49 am
I'm afraid most of that land is white owned uh, I mean leased from the Federal gubbamint, as range land, so without a tribe I would not be able to make it, without a community of braves it could not be real..and a tent would not work, although a tipi might suffice.. and wiping my ass with a hand is of Arab origin, not native American.. so your post was pretty much 1 big error..
#177913 by DainNobody
Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:55 am
JCP61 wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
the Native American way of life must have been about as harmonious of life as a person could imagine..while the white men to date have a society with high tax rates, a dirty society, full of radiation poisoning, chemical dump sites, Lake Erie catching fire back in the 1960's, a debt load that will be hard to balance, let alone pay down, while Indians paid no taxes, had no huge debt to pay off, hunted and fished all day long, and all land was held like a commons.. who really is the smart society then?, the technologically advanced white man or the Native American way of life


it's not like you can't move to Wyoming, live in a tent,
eat animals you yourself kill and wipe your ass with your hand,
I mean if that's your idea of a good time.
just make sure you don't eat your donkey the same week you need a dentist.
but I believe you were only being humorous and not serious and I did get a laugh out of it..thanks for the comedic post..ha ha
#178037 by Vampier
Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:42 am
...Dane I thank you once again for you Post. An Indian who is now dead said "Before the White Man came one could drink from any stream, river or lake in North America". In just over 200 years all that has been changed by your apt label "Dirty Society of White Man". Generally speaking it is quite interesting to note that the White Men have Patriarchal societies and the Indians have for the most part Matriarchal Societies ????

JCP61 ... you are an odd sort of fish. You always seem to be speaking from the first reaction which comes into your head and often these are devoid of basis or compromised by misnamed facts ... still you do hit some excellent and thought provoking "nails" occasionally.

I believe that it is only a question of time before the building collapses which is "Reactor 4" in Fukushima. When this happens then many of the multitude of "problems" that abound will quite suddenly become mute points. There will be many "Mericans" who will be trying to go south to "Mesico". The Northern Hemisphere will become uninhabitable, Billions will die, and even eventually the Southern Hemisphere will also become lethal. Tepco, GE and all the politcal scum in Japan and the US are doing nothing. Which colour of sh*t are you going to "vote" for ??? Ta
#178289 by JCP61
Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:10 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
JCP61 wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
the Native American way of life must have been about as harmonious of life as a person could imagine..while the white men to date have a society with high tax rates, a dirty society, full of radiation poisoning, chemical dump sites, Lake Erie catching fire back in the 1960's, a debt load that will be hard to balance, let alone pay down, while Indians paid no taxes, had no huge debt to pay off, hunted and fished all day long, and all land was held like a commons.. who really is the smart society then?, the technologically advanced white man or the Native American way of life


it's not like you can't move to Wyoming, live in a tent,
eat animals you yourself kill and wipe your ass with your hand,
I mean if that's your idea of a good time.
just make sure you don't eat your donkey the same week you need a dentist.
but I believe you were only being humorous and not serious and I did get a laugh out of it..thanks for the comedic post..ha ha


white men love to romance the noble savage,
of course they really have no clue what living in a world lit only by fire is like.
it was brutal, cruel and short.
I would venture to say that 99% of urbanites like your self would not last 24hrs.
they love to romance these things because they, deep down, are really afraid they are not real men, of course that's not true, they are men, just not the kind of men they would like to admire.
you live in fear today, it is true.
But back then you would understand what fear truly is.
and most likely the first native you met would just kill you outright.
He might eat you, or at least ware some part of you around his neck.

the truth is,
you are conjuring Geronimo,
but in fact you are talking about peter pan
#178350 by Vampier
Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:57 am
...James Fenimore Cooper ??? You are correct in that "White Men" love to romance the "noble savage" ... They also love to drink beer, overeat, wear mock football jersey's and scream like school girls in drunken frenzy for "their team" A rather silly and odd practice. White Men are and always have been somewhat of a problem. You are most assuredly correct about that , although Hillary is working hard to change all that.

I am certain that the common Iraqi or Libyan know about living in a world "lit by fire". Actually, however, most Native Americans had fairly long and healthy lives compared to the "civilized" white men of that early time. But now today on the "modern reservation/concentration camps" that the white man has made for them they no longer do. Their lives before the white man were not nearly as "brutal, cruel and short" as they are today in the government sanctioned and run extermination/slow kill ... reservation/death camps. Once again I urge you to do some research. Canada is even worse than the US because after all they are part of the hideous empire of Great Britain.

I assume you know the difference between "Indians" in North America and Indians from India ? Do you know how the Native Americans came to be called "Indians"? I feel that you underestimate Dane and 99% of all "urbanites" ... especially the older ones. You should not use yourself as a gauge in such matters. The same applies regarding our rather strange statements about "men" ... the majority of "Indians" were female much like todays numbers in many cultures worldwide.

Fear ? Everyone has fears and any who say they do not are liars. Even the stupid have fears. "Back then" there was no Reactor Number Four in Fukushima ... no aging and leaking reactors anywhere like they are everywhere today ...no GMO ...No Biohazards, depleted uranium, flouride, aspartane, political scum and other types of pollution ... and on and on. "Back then you would understand what fear truly is"??? Never mind wiping your ass ... you are talking with yours in this case ... truly amazing. And if they were so "likely to kill you" how were the land purchases, pasage arrangements and treaties ever made ??? Thetreaties were always broken by the white men. That certainly has not changed today. I urge you to also do some critical thinking before you speak with a forked tongue.

"Eat you" ??? Cannibalism was not practiced by Native Americans and many starved to death rather than consuming the flesh of others ... unlike the so called "Royalty" of today. Cannibals were considered demons. Do you even know what "counting coup" is ?? How "scalping" originated ?

The Truth is ...Geronimo can not be "conjured" as it was he who did the conjuring. Do you know where his skull is today at this moment ?? Hmmm now who is the savage ?

Tsk Tsk Peter Pan ? I should imagine that Dane may possibly have enjoyed that story when he was younger but most probably has long since "outgrown" it and Peter Pan. I thank you for your Post. Ta

#178387 by JCP61
Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:40 pm
aboriginal cannibalism is fairly well documented through out history
including america.


Image

the rest of your improvisation is not worth refuting line by line
buy a book and read it.

#178388 by DainNobody
Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:09 pm
yeah... it's so well documented, the "Indians" look like caucasians in your picture you provided.. LMFAO....

#178389 by DainNobody
Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:16 pm
the picture you provided is in reality, the group of whites living on Roanoke Island /(pre-Jamestown,/)..and they had to revert to cannibalism before they themselves perished of yellow fever and other diseases associated with swamp infested organisms.. LMFAO...

#178390 by jw123
Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:19 pm
They look pretty fat to be starving enough to eat each other!

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