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#177449 by Jahva
Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:36 pm
Happy 4th Folks.
And a Happy Birthday America!!!
Enjoy!
200+ years and still standing. :)
Last edited by Jahva on Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

#177450 by PaperDog
Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:37 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:I am indeed ungrateful. What have they defended us from? Our soldiers are good men serving a bitterly corrupt set of masters.

We are at war, I'm told. But our borders are wide open. Right wing conservatives are call by DHS 'the greatest threat we face.'
Don't trust me on that, read this:
http://www.infowars.com/homeland-securi ... errorists/

So what are we fighting for? And why should I be grateful? I ask that as a serious question. because it looks to me like the US govt is fighting US!

They say we must fight ''them" over there or the war will come here. I submit that 30,000 drones offered to local police departments means we are already fighting here, and the enemy is any one who values freedom.

I respect the soldiers because I believe (from talking to many) that they went off thinking they were fighting for freedom or to avenge 9/11. But many are waking up. Ron Paul has more support among soldiers than ALL the other candidates put together.

Sorry, but the facts are the facts.

Talbot


To avert this problem internally, we must teach the next generation of kids to never join an armed service or agency. If that happens, the govt will be in short supply of dispensable units of leverage for its political /global agendas, which will force it to make better decisions for the country. IMHO

#177452 by KLUGMO
Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:46 pm
Did you forget the draft?

#177454 by PaperDog
Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:57 pm
KLUGMO wrote:Did you forget the draft?


Indeed no... And I predict that Bic-lighter sales will increase drastically

#177455 by PaperDog
Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:05 pm
KLUGMO wrote:Did you forget the draft?


Truthfully, I dont condone a collapse of our defense system. My point was to illustrate a threat to America, if the leadership doesn't get its act together. We experienced a taste of the resistance during the Vietnam era.

But I would like to point out a startling set of numbers (ball park)

Vietnam Loss of US troops (fatalities Min @100k)
Iraq/Afghan Loss of US troops (fatalities Min @10k)

the vast difference in numbers tells me that our Govt has made an attempt to reevaluate how it handles and calculates for War-time attrition.

My point being, the evil doers of D.C. are so confident in the US ability, that there is a greater risk they will leverage evil plans, on the assumption that we can kick anybody's ass with minimal consequence...

If so,,, I do not want to live here any more , because that kind of leadership is what will get us all killed.

#177458 by Prevost82
Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:43 pm
got to get money out of politics before that will happen .. Dog ... the goverment is owned and control by the big 6 .. and it's both parties that bow down to these guys.

Energy
Defence
Banking (not John's Bank ... the big ones)
Health Care
Telecommunications
Agriculture

You guys (left & right) should be fighting with the big 6 instead of each other .. divide and conquer .. you know .. they're the enemy ... they're the ones that are fleecing and taking your country away from you.
They do run one hell of a propaganda machine .. I'll give them that

#177464 by JCP61
Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:02 am
Prevost82 wrote:got to get money out of politics before that will happen .. Dog ... the goverment is owned and control by the big 6 .. and it's both parties that bow down to these guys.

Energy
Defence
Banking (not John's Bank ... the big ones)
Health Care
Telecommunications
Agriculture

You guys (left & right) should be fighting with the big 6 instead of each other .. divide and conquer .. you know .. they're the enemy ... they're the ones that are fleecing and taking your country away from you.
They do run one hell of a propaganda machine .. I'll give them that


yada yada yada,
every foreigner on the F'n planet has a grand idea of what the USA should be doing.
:roll:
you do it and we will give you advice, hows that?

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