General Music Chat

lol,are u tryen to humor me?

Lol. Neh man. Just making conversation, never heard of a 12 bar. Well, except for the website that I gave you. But I never really payed attention to the meaning behind the name.

*Shrug*

lol,sarcasim's hard to detect on here,just thought i'd be sure

lol,sarcasim's hard to detect on here,just thought i'd be sure

Lmao. Yeah, I know what you mean. It is very rough to detect. I find myself getting lost sometimes.

Steve, I listened to your blues song. In some parts, I had trouble reconciling the lead with the bass . . . but it wasn't too bad . . .

I've resisted saying anything at this point, but I have to venture this. I have no intention of being negative or anything, Steve, so please take my comments in the vein they are intended - a positive one.

I got the impression that you are still in the "noisemaker" stage of guitar work if you know what I mean. I'm not a guitarist myself, so this is more the viewpoint of one who appreciates guitar work as opposed to a player. A fat distorted guitar sound has a place, I realize, but sometimes the four chord thing just takes over, and the musicality of the instrument disappears. In short, I haven't heard any real "music" in there yet.

You know how music that impresses you has a certain poecy...a lyrical content... to it? That's what I look for. On another thread I was joshing around with Wegman saying that guitar is one of those instruments that provides some instant gratification to players because one can learnt a few chords and immediately start playing with others. Well I remembered when I first got an electric guitar back when I was 16, and I turned it up and got that loud, chunky distorted sound and I was blown away with myself. Instant gratification. But only as years passed did I realize I wasn't actually making music, saying something, with it. The "meaty" effect only lasted so long with the instrument before I discovered that it wasn't my voice and I moved to other instruments.

If you were to get your guitar to speak, what would it say? How would it say it? How would you understate something, as well as overstate it? If the volume and distortion were suddenly taken away, could you make it speak?

Just a few things to think about. I deal with this stuff on keyboards all the time. So I'm not just preaching without practicing. What do you think? What is your guitar "voice" like, if stripped down to its basics?

Thats the most diplomatic post Ive ever seen on here.


I think all of us that lurk here and play guitar have been where you are right now. I was into punk rock before they had a name for it. I had a Ross distortion pedal that did it for me. I want to encourage you to keep at it. You are figuring out the most basic means to record and thats where you learn. I remember using 2 small cassette recorders and bouncing things back and forth so I could multi track on my own. I wish I had some of those tapes, they would sound like what your doing now. Keep Rocking and Keep Developing.

irminsul - excellent point about how the guitar delivers instant gratification. it is definitely evident in Myke's song.

but, speaking as a glutton for adrenaline, i liked the feelings Myke conveyed in his songs (i didnt listen to teh blues songs, though). i like the wall of sound these songs provide.

they can be a lot to take, though, without a bridge, an intro, and outro, bends, stops, etc. i think these are songs that can definitely be improved with these devices.
otherwise, they are still perfect for a mosh pit of 20 disenfranchised, drunk teenagers. (sarcasm detector meter at zero. just being funny).

questions, if anyone would like to answer:
what is E 440 (mentioned by Wegman)
Drop B - you are tuning each string, correct? (so strings 1 and 6 are B). in Drop D, you only tune the top string down to D, right?

questions, if anyone would like to answer:
what is E 440 (mentioned by Wegman)
Drop B - you are tuning each string, correct? (so strings 1 and 6 are B). in Drop D, you only tune the top string down to D, right?

440 is standard tuning, e,a,d,g,b,e
Drop B is 440 a full step down, so yes, 1 and 6 are both going to be B
Drop D is 440 with 1 tuned to D

But if you really wat to be a Devil Tool then try the B tuning drop d...

Thats Zakk Wylde style and why he uses super fat strings to actually get a tone out of strings with hardly any tension on them.

I prefer to tune 1/2 step down, Eb,Ab,Db,Gb,Bb,Eb and usually drop D

irminsul - excellent point about how the guitar delivers instant gratification. it is definitely evident in Myke's song.

but, speaking as a glutton for adrenaline, i liked the feelings Myke conveyed in his songs (i didnt listen to teh blues songs, though). i like the wall of sound these songs provide.

they can be a lot to take, though, without a bridge, an intro, and outro, bends, stops, etc. i think these are songs that can definitely be improved with these devices.
otherwise, they are still perfect for a mosh pit of 20 disenfranchised, drunk teenagers. (sarcasm detector meter at zero. just being funny).

questions, if anyone would like to answer:
what is E 440 (mentioned by Wegman)
Drop B - you are tuning each string, correct? (so strings 1 and 6 are B). in Drop D, you only tune the top string down to D, right?

Okay, first things first. Look at a digital tuner, you will see it says "440" that is the standard hertz of the strings vibrations on a guitar. So when Wegman says "E 440" he is referring to Standard Tuning.

Drop B tuning is C# tuning, but with the top string (The Low E) dropped to the pitch of B. So it would look like this from string 1 to string 6:

C#
G#
E
B
F#
B

As for Drop D, you are right, it was one string detuned. You just drop the low E down to the pitch of D.

Guys, a suggestion: master standard tuning first.

Guys, a suggestion: master standard tuning first.

I will keep that mind RhythmMan. Thanks. Most of the stuff I play is in standard anyhow.

Guys, a suggestion: master standard tuning first.

440 you mean??

I didnt even drop D tune till after playing in 440 for 10 years

Depends on the application. Acoustic sounds better tuned to 440 and capoed. Heavy metal sounds better detuned. And of course singers who don't have a high range favor tuning down.

throw it away jam: sounds like someone who has been playing guitar for a relatively short time.

Haunting In: did weird things in headphones..almost cool though..
funny hearing pick noise on such a heavily distorted patch.
Where's the rest of the band?


Split your spine: I made it to 2:03 before I couldn't take anymore

Not sure what part we're reviewing here: if guitar, well it's basic chords over & over...
vox? eewww

Casearankass: was kinda bored...

On our own: made it to :24 before...well u know

Santeria: hm the E to D# chord transition would sound cooler if it were E - E/D#
I think I have that right.
I confess I don;t know the tune...the lead thing made me think you're a little stoned..

Well, there you have it.
a crappy review.

But, not to worry mate: I'm quite sure you would hate my music.
We many of us here probably don;t really see eye to eye musically, but we all enjoy the process.

peace

R