Clifford, Nobody hates you ... I don't hate you ... But you are a pain in the ass... I tell you this, because I know you aren't a suicide risk, nor are you crazy. But you need mental therapy to help you through your disorder;
To others reading this; Don't feel guilty if you felt annoyed and spoke up against Clifford. But, please do understand that our expectations of posted exchanges with Clifford have likely been misplaced...and thus we might have been very unfair to Clifford. The truth is...anybody (no exceptions) attempting to rationalize with Clifford during these exchanges, was DIW at the first key-stroke... Don't feel bad...we didn't know better until now. And don't hold it against Clifford...He's got some unsettling issues and needs support, not vitriol; If he is to be honest, his work is cut out for him.
Read on:
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder looks entirely different from OCD at first glance. The DSM-IV describes it this way:
-A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
-Is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost.
-Shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met).
-Is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity).
-Is over conscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification) is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value.
-Is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things.
-Adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes.
-Shows rigidity and stubbornness.
[i](American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition. Washington, DC, 1994)[/i]
Other sources:
When we call someone "anal" (short for "anal-retentive") we are referring to this disorder, rather than OCD. Like all personality disorders, this can be thought of as an extreme exaggeration of a certain personality style. We all know someone who is somewhat like this. It's only a personality disorder when it is so extreme that it gets in the way.
If you look hard you can see why these disorders have similar names. Both involve the tendency to obsess and to act compulsively. OCD is an illness that can develop at different points in life. Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder must have begun by early adulthood. It refers to a deeply imbedded personality style, rather than to a set of acute symptoms that get in the way.
Having some obsessive-compulsive personality traits can pay off. Students and employees who are "excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships" can be very productive. This productivity is rewarded by good grades, pay raises, and advancement at work. Other aspects of life can suffer, however, if things are not in balance.
Psychotherapy and medications are used to treat OCD and trichotillomania. Psychotherapy can also be helpful to treat Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, (with medications sometimes used as an adjunct). If these symptoms sound like your life, and if they are getting in the way, consider consulting a mental health professional in your area.
Example of reputable Therapies for this: http://www.silverhillhospital.org/dbt-p ... tgodozf62w
To others reading this; Don't feel guilty if you felt annoyed and spoke up against Clifford. But, please do understand that our expectations of posted exchanges with Clifford have likely been misplaced...and thus we might have been very unfair to Clifford. The truth is...anybody (no exceptions) attempting to rationalize with Clifford during these exchanges, was DIW at the first key-stroke... Don't feel bad...we didn't know better until now. And don't hold it against Clifford...He's got some unsettling issues and needs support, not vitriol; If he is to be honest, his work is cut out for him.
Read on:
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder looks entirely different from OCD at first glance. The DSM-IV describes it this way:
-A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
-Is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost.
-Shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met).
-Is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity).
-Is over conscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification) is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value.
-Is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things.
-Adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes.
-Shows rigidity and stubbornness.
[i](American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition. Washington, DC, 1994)[/i]
Other sources:
When we call someone "anal" (short for "anal-retentive") we are referring to this disorder, rather than OCD. Like all personality disorders, this can be thought of as an extreme exaggeration of a certain personality style. We all know someone who is somewhat like this. It's only a personality disorder when it is so extreme that it gets in the way.
If you look hard you can see why these disorders have similar names. Both involve the tendency to obsess and to act compulsively. OCD is an illness that can develop at different points in life. Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder must have begun by early adulthood. It refers to a deeply imbedded personality style, rather than to a set of acute symptoms that get in the way.
Having some obsessive-compulsive personality traits can pay off. Students and employees who are "excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships" can be very productive. This productivity is rewarded by good grades, pay raises, and advancement at work. Other aspects of life can suffer, however, if things are not in balance.
Psychotherapy and medications are used to treat OCD and trichotillomania. Psychotherapy can also be helpful to treat Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, (with medications sometimes used as an adjunct). If these symptoms sound like your life, and if they are getting in the way, consider consulting a mental health professional in your area.
Example of reputable Therapies for this: http://www.silverhillhospital.org/dbt-p ... tgodozf62w
This forum needs like buttons! Dog, I would have clicked it pronto on your opening post if there was one....
