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Music schools may have classes tailored to adults learnign to play later in life - these are the folks most likely wanting to just jam for fun. Far fewer 'more capable' players are going to want to just jam.

Again! Please, pay more attention. I am NOT just looking to jam. I want to find individual guys who I can become CLOSE friends with and work on some pop and soft rock covers together that span the 70s to today, and actually learn some new skills, so I'm going to need to reach these "more capable" players, and not the ones at music schools which are probably not going to have the talent and the skills I'm looking for or the passion for light rock. Factor in that keyboard players are extremely hard to come by here in Baton Rouge. There is too much love for the guitar here and too much love for alternative indie music here, and not enough love for mainstream pop and soft rock.

Also consider that I want to do this purely as friends, with no pressure or deadlines to meet. Consider that I want to allow time to do other activities as well (possibly on the same day) like play video games, or have coffee together or hang out with some general friends. If something DOES happen later on after working on some covers, and working on some originals, that's fine. But I want to reach someone who's a bit higher up than me and can show me how to do mixing and recording and can show me how to properly play around with electronic textures.

I'm looking for someone like this guy:

http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/muc/2994062833.html

...except that instead he needs to be a guy who does what that guy does as a hobby and NOT as his job.

The point is that I don't want to reach anybody who is less knowledgeabl;e and less skilled than me. I don't want to settle for second best.

Everybody I've talked to so far seems to think that music schools are the answer, when I don't want to waste time taking classes, not to mention that I need to talk to more guys in Baton Rouge who like more of the music I enjoy and find out what they've tried and found similar success.

Just like you wont find a qualified musician, who would waste his time in a music school, Its also doubtful that you will find a qualified musician who will waste his time on it as a mere hobby...He's probably looking to get serious work out of it...and probably isn't thinking about coffee time or video games...
Maybe what you are really looking for is video game buddy that happens to love music... (and can play good)?

"Just like you wont find a qualified musician, who would waste his time in a music school, Its also doubtful that you will find a qualified musician who will waste his time on it as a mere hobby...He's probably looking to get serious work out of it...and probably isn't thinking about coffee time or video games...
Maybe what you are really looking for is video game buddy that happens to love music... (and can play good)?"

Don't be a jerk about it now. Note the words in bold: That is definetely not true. I am looking for some REAL musicians, but at the same time I've been trying to reach guys who like me are NOT quite so eager to get out and perform or those who have already started a career and instead want to improve their skills and just have a good time playing music together. Note that that's just the starting point. From there, anything can happen. If something official happens, that's fine. If it doesn't, that's fine too.

Good luck, it appears you are looking for a long-lost twin.

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"Just like you wont find a qualified musician, who would waste his time in a music school, Its also doubtful that you will find a qualified musician who will waste his time on it as a mere hobby...He's probably looking to get serious work out of it...and probably isn't thinking about coffee time or video games...
Maybe what you are really looking for is video game buddy that happens to love music... (and can play good)?"

Don't be a jerk about it now. Note the words in bold: That is definetely not true. I am looking for some REAL musicians, but at the same time I've been trying to reach guys who like me are NOT quite so eager to get out and perform or those who have already started a career and instead want to improve their skills and just have a good time playing music together. Note that that's just the starting point. From there, anything can happen. If something official happens, that's fine. If it doesn't, that's fine too.

Wasnt trying to be a jerk. I was trying to be helpful... From the sound of everthing you describe, what you probably need more than anything is a "mini-me" copy of yourself... Sounds to me that you have no room for anything else... WHatever, I'm done here. Best of luck in your search

I'm simply looking for some good friends who share my passion for pop and soft rock music, and who play guitar or keyboard well, and who just want to have fun hanging out together.

Those days ended when you left high school.


It's time to move on...


Once people start working for a living, their priorities change. You can complain about it or you can accept it and adjust accordingly.

Practically no one wants to be in the middle. Either they do it for fun, or they want to make some $$$ for their effort and investment.

Those who do it for fun have no ambition. Someone who likes exactly what you like is rare, but even then they're too busy with life and other issues to commit to a schedule of rehearsals or jamming











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You know, the responses I've recieved from people here come off as rude, or as if these people were big shots and think they know everything. NONE of you guys bothered to ask questions when you guys were confused about something and a lot of you are TOO quick to respond and make foolish assumptions.

And by the way, I never got to experience high school like most people, probably because I was legally blind and didn't have time to make any long-term friends. Sure, back then I had some short-term acqaintences, but they weren't friends and I would ONLY see them in class, and just say hi.

Also my music collection was VERY small then, and I was still learning the basics of music around that time, so therefore I wasn't actively looking for other musicians around that time, plus, there wasn't a lot of exciting trends going in pop and soft rock at the time.

I'm sorry you guys get so upset over nothing and didn't the first hint when I stated that I needed to talk to someone in Baton Rouge who likes more of the music I'm into and find out what those people have tried.

You know, the responses I've recieved from people here come off as rude, or as if these people were big shots and think they know everything. NONE of you guys bothered to ask questions when you guys were confused about something and a lot of you are TOO quick to respond and make foolish assumptions.

And by the way, I never got to experience high school like most people, probably because I was legally blind and didn't have time to make any long-term friends. Sure, back then I had some short-term acqaintences, but they weren't friends and I would ONLY see them in class, and just say hi.

First off, youngster , you need to understand that nobody here 'owes' you any kind of response. If you get a response at all, you should show some gratitude and not act like some leatard-wearing cunt about it.
People here have reached out to help you answer your questions and all you do is sh*t on them. Go f**k yourself.

We don't know that you are are actually blind like you say...So using that nonsense as an excuse to give you a pass on your snotty behavior is fruitless.. (I sure don't feel pity for you). Its pretty obvious that your real handicap is your social ineptness. Get a clue! You don't need glasses to figure this out...

You know, the responses I've recieved from people here come off as rude, or as if these people were big shots and think they know everything. NONE of you guys bothered to ask questions when you guys were confused about something and a lot of you are TOO quick to respond and make foolish assumptions.

And by the way, I never got to experience high school like most people, probably because I was legally blind and didn't have time to make any long-term friends. Sure, back then I had some short-term acqaintences, but they weren't friends and I would ONLY see them in class, and just say hi.

First off, youngster , you need to understand that nobody here 'owes' you any kind of response. If you get a response at all, you should show some gratitude and not act like some leatard-wearing cunt about it.
People here have reached out to help you answer your questions and all you do is sh*t on them. Go f**k yourself.

We don't know that you are are actually blind like you say...So using that nonsense as an excuse to give you a pass on your snotty behavior is fruitless.. (I sure don't feel pity for you). Its pretty obvious that your real handicap is your social ineptness. Get a clue! You don't need glasses to figure this out...

Dude! Nobody here has DONE anything of the sort that you said. Everybody here who has talked to me has been a complete jerk to me and they are completely blind to it. Nobody took the time to consider whether or not they were from Baton Rouge and liked a lot more of the music I enjoy and THEN took the time to develope a bond.

All I've been dealing with on here (and other past message boards) are TROLLS and people who think they are big shots who think they know everything there is to know about life, when they themselves might have some bigger issues to work on.


And I am not socially challenged, if I were, I wouldn't even be on this search. I am a guy who will admit to his own problems, unlike some of the people here who respond WAY to quickly and don't show consideration for others.

And by the way, I never implied that anybody should "owe" me anything. Why couldn't the people responding taken the hint that I needed to connect with someone around my age in Baton Rouge who likes more of the music I enjoy. That way, I couldv'e gotten some better ideas about some music schools in my area and maybe talked to a couple of young or middle-aged music teachers in my area instead of talking to someone who lives in another state.

"So using that nonsense as an excuse to give you a pass on your snotty behavior is fruitless.."

By the way, Paperdog was the one who came off as snotty. I'm TRYING my best to behave and stand up for myself.

Nobody has offered me the help I need in order to get back out there in my search for talented keyboard players, guitar players and singers.

I'm sorry you feel that way about me Paperdog. There was NO reason to go off on me and make all of those crazy assumptions about me like you did. I'm not using my blindness to get a pass anywhere in life. That was a clue so that a given person will know how to help me better.

This has all been one giant missunderstanding handled horribly, and I think it started when GuitarMikeB told me to try music schools, but didn't understand that I wanted to talk to other guys in my area who share more of the same msuc tastes and actually discuss in more detail, what they have tried and actually talk about their experiences and see if that particular place would be appropriate for what I'm trying to find.

Why couldn't he and others have taken that hint? It's not that hard.

Sorry if I upset anybody on here with any of my posts. And I'm sorry for those who handled some of those situations poorly. If you couldn't help me any further all you had to say was "Good luck" and give someone else a chance to respond.

Hello there folks! I'm a 23 recent college graduate who lives near Richmond VA, and has always had a bit of a problem finding my niche. I sing and play keyboard/piano, and I'd absolutely love to get into industrial/alt rock, symphonic rock, and electronic music, but when it comes to finding other musicians to collaborate with I seem to be at a loss.

Musically, I'm pretty open minded, but definitely have interests that stray from most of the musicians I have collaborated with in the past. Maybe I'm difficult to work with or hard to please, but it never really works out to be anything more than a temporary fit. Richmond Virginia has a pretty strong death-metal scene, but I quickly learned that I have little interest in that (Plus, My screams don't sound so great).

SO, how have you done it? How have you met other musicians? How can you find a niche/ potential band partners? Should I be seeking out specific venues? Use the internet? Should I move somewhere else that offers more opportunities that interest me? Should I stop being so stubborn and try types of music that I'm not that interested in making?

What have your experiences been?

I've had the same problem in my area not always but,for the last span.Have you thought about trying to put together a band via the computer?

[Dude! Nobody here has DONE anything of the sort that you said. Everybody here who has talked to me has been a complete jerk to me and they are completely blind to it. Nobody took the time to consider whether or not they were from Baton Rouge and liked a lot more of the music I enjoy and THEN took the time to develope a bond.

All I've been dealing with on here (and other past message boards) are TROLLS and people who think they are big shots who think they know everything there is to know about life, when they themselves might have some bigger issues to work on.

And I am not socially challenged, if I were, I wouldn't even be on this search. I am a guy who will admit to his own problems, unlike some of the people here who respond WAY to quickly and don't show consideration for others.

And by the way, I never implied that anybody should "owe" me anything. Why couldn't the people responding taken the hint that I needed to connect with someone around my age in Baton Rouge who likes more of the music I enjoy. That way, I couldv'e gotten some better ideas about some music schools in my area and maybe talked to a couple of young or middle-aged music teachers in my area instead of talking to someone who lives in another state.

Mr - you asked for advice. We tried to help - at least I did - but you seem to protest every little thing people suggest. If you want to work with others, lose the negativity and open your mind to tryiing something a little different than what your *real plan* is. You want experienced musicians who also want to be 'best friends' and don't want to play out, but don't want to 'just jam' either.
You're not going to find a bunch of other similar Baton Rouge players coming to an international forum like this.

here's a couple of links that a little googling showed me:
http://www.brguitarlessons.com/About-Us.html
http://www.theperfectguitar.com/lessons.cfm
http://www.gracenotesviolinstudio.com/GNMS/home2.html

You could contact these places, letting them know what you are looking for - other musicians to play with and type of music - not the parts about playing video games, etc. If you're really looking for a best buddy as well as a musical partner, you'd do better with the singles ads! (j/k) Really, you need to be realistic on your goals. Finding someone to play with is a big enough challenge, trying to find all you want in one person is near impossible.
As has already been said by others, the level of player you think you want is somone who is probably NOT going to just want to hang out, jam and play video games - people have life commitments as they get older, full-time jobs, families, friends and responsibilities.
I said it before, but you seemed to ignore it, then asked again: Good Luck.

LOL I am amused now..

I wonder if the Red Cross or similar thing will come out and have a function because we are repressing him.

Prolly not, huh?

I checked out this site:

http://www.brguitarlessons.com/About-Us.html

And sent an e-mail to this person:

info@brguitarlessons.com


Here's what I sent:


"Hi, my name is Clifford and I'm 28 years old. I play the keyboard and enjoy playing a wide mix of pop and soft rock music. I'm wondering if you have any advanced students around my age who also play keyboard and who enjoy playing a wide range of pop and soft rock music. My tastes span the 70s to the present, and include such favorites as Madonna, Richard Marx, Adam Lambert, David Archuleta, David Cook, Kelly Clarkson, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Adele, and Pink to name just a few.

Here's a video of me playing one of my covers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o87HiT15o2Q

Keep in mind that I'm not in a rush to get out and perform and I'm not interested in joining a band. I'm looking for a few GUY friends who I can individually invite over to work on some pop and soft rock songs together and continue improving our skills and someone who I can learn about songwriting and maybe even play around with electronic music.

Please, get back to me,

Thanks,

Clifford"