General Music Chat

Hey all,
Looking to talk drums with someone. Fav drummers, setups, originals, inspirations...

Saw this. Man, no replies. I guess there really aren't too many drummers on this forum.

As long as you're asking about it, I'll throw something in. Being in my 50's I hear a difference between drumming today and back some decades. At one time drummers had various personal sound, and technique that seemed to give them a personal "voice." You knew the big band guys. You knew Baker from Bonham, from Moon, from Paice, from Seraphine, from Cobham, from White, from Tony, etc. Today, what's "in" is note bombardment. All I hear players doing are hand/foot combinations that start to sound like a drum set falling down a flight of stairs. Especially is this the case with the "gospel drumming" phenomenon. Everything is about speed and slamming things hard, but making actual music with rhythm seems lost. Everybody sounds the same. Guys like Benny Greb keep that old spirit alive. Most just seem to want to play as many notes as possible.

What is called "music" today was garage band noise not that many years ago. Drumming somewhere became neanderthal and cymbal companies had to start making thicker cymbals to go along with the telephone poles players started using. Things became acts of aggression at the expense of the instrument (being fully aware of Keith Moon's antics in the 60s).

Certainly there are fine musicians behind drum sets all over the planet. It's enjoyable to watch them do their thing, and see the new guys emerge. Most of them seem to have fusion backgrounds, or jazz.

I don't follow it as I used to, mostly because there's not many new players drawing me in to take an interest anymore.

Hey good topic... I agree with the discussion about speed and bombardment. Its okay,.... but if its the endgame of a drummers playing...its really not that different than karate kicks or swinging a baseball bat. I happen to be working on lots of moeller technique right now to refine my skill set. Any band Ive played with has always told me I have a great tempo/timing...like throughout the whole song... A lot of guys reallly suck at this and I cant stress t enough. I happen to suck(IMO) at fills and finessing the fill. We all have strengths and weaknesses. I really admire the drummers that can groove and work magic from the wrist and finger and less arm clubbing. I play double pedal when i need a Bonham sound w/ the triplet thing. But I rarely use it or I should say sparingly. Hand technique always rules the day for me. Im back to basics with rudiments on the pad, and watching how i work the stick. Yes it takes a TON of patience and time. thanks for the thread

Drumming somewhere became neanderthal and cymbal companies had to start making thicker cymbals to go along with the telephone poles players started using.

I noticed that a while back, what the hell is with these thick sticks that 'newer' drummers are using? You could hurt someone throwing those into the audience after a solo!

It's funny, our drummer uses very thin jazz sticks, he doesn't like the big lumber.

Nothing better than a good drummer that can play like crazy and not beat the living sh*t out of the drum set.

That's art, bitches..believe it.

Have you ever known a drummer to show up to somebody else's gig and get 'snared' into "filling" in for the other guy, as a "cymbol" of musical cause and support ? Well have ya? hee hee!

You better "pedal" away from this thread before someone "kicks" you.

You better "pedal" away from this thread before someone "kicks" you.

Now, Hold to your"high hat" there... No need for anybody to get their "skins" in a down beat... I was just peri-diddlin around ...

I wont make fun of any drummer. Such a difficult instrument to be the backbone of a band.
I mentioned I met a drummer I worked with almost 40 years ago.
Not to get sentimental, but sort of like a long lost brother.
ANY way to get to the point, he's pretty good and the simple things he has shown me as far as playing make all the difference in the world as far as using the balance of the stick to achieve control and letting the drums do all the work.

Sorta the way I hold my prick when I play guitar.

Hey all,
Looking to talk drums with someone. Fav drummers, setups, originals, inspirations...

I am not a drummer but I have something to say about drummers.

1 Keep a steady beat

2 Use a fill in as tabs IE to mark changes from verse into a chorus or a
bridge or a solo etc.

3 Use the right amount of measures when using a fill in so it end at the down beat of the next section of the song and not one or two measures too late or too early

4 Use dynamics for each section of the song

5 Make sure when changing patterns the beat stays the same

6 Do not ride the cymbals forever it is very annoying to the listeners

7 Tune the skins after all a drum is a musical instrument

8 Keep it simple

9 Keep the DB level at par with the rest of the band, compensating volume level in the middle of a song is a song killer

10 If a drummer can do all the above look me up.

Stringdancer...I can pretty much accomodate everything you mentioned! I use my ride sparingly, it's potent. Sabian Paragon 22" with a helluva bell on it. Generally lead players hate that thing

On top of all that...I do lead and backing vocals! Now, why aren't you in Az?