Dane Ellis Allen wrote:hey Etu, if you don't mind me asking, why do you use Baphomet as your moniker? is it just the flavor of the week for this thread?..lolActually it is the flavor of the month because I will be performing a Ceremony at the end of this month honoring Leviathan and Baphomet during Walpurgisnacht/Beltane.
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to get back on topic, basically a guy could practice till his fingers fell off, and still not get close to the skill level of a Jeff Beck or Steve Morse ...so although we are all created equal, there is some reason or something behind genius..since if we are all born equal, anybody that practices enough should attain the level of a Steve Morse?.. but it ain't happening for 99%+ of guitarists..and if you folks that don't believe in God say there is no God-given gift to allow superior musicians to emerge, then what is this phenomenon that allows the guitar gods to surpass the common man? I still think it is a spiritual contract with a higher force.. not a voluntary contract sometimes, sometimes it happens from letting your mind /soul/spirit enter forbidden areas..areas that allow a few people to develop unnaturally, but they pay the price in the end..
Cool except for the last 8 words of your post.
This whole post is ridiculous.
God loves us playing music. Giving praise comes in many forms. Some of us are very talented in so many ways.
When you put it that way and drag this out I would almost have to say that the best players, musicians. songwriters, guitarists, tromboners, drummers, and even children singing,,,,, Are just reflecting a gift from God.
I can't believe that many people added to this thread.
Music comes from the heart of all life, a gift from God.
I met up with the devil once, spat at my feet, and ran away screaming,,,
GOD SAVE ME.
This whole post is ridiculous.
God loves us playing music. Giving praise comes in many forms. Some of us are very talented in so many ways.
When you put it that way and drag this out I would almost have to say that the best players, musicians. songwriters, guitarists, tromboners, drummers, and even children singing,,,,, Are just reflecting a gift from God.
I can't believe that many people added to this thread.
Music comes from the heart of all life, a gift from God.
I met up with the devil once, spat at my feet, and ran away screaming,,,
GOD SAVE ME.
Don't argue with a stupid person. They will pull you down to their level... And beat you with experience..."Samuel Langhorne Clemens"
#171181 by Slacker G
Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:25 am
Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:25 am
When I first picked up a guitar I couldn't play anything. I bought a cheap Stella for $13.00 just as a project. I had made a wire less setup for a guy that could play guitar, in order that he could use his radio as an amplifier.
It was so cool that I had to have one myself. But, I thought I had better learn a song first. An old blues dude showed me the beginning of Honky Tonk. I practiced 4-6 hours a day to learn that stupid song. My fingers cracked and split, and I would have to wipe the blood from the fingerboard and cauterize my fingers with my Zippo lighter. That would stop the bleeding and I would start in again and then do the same process all over again. I was so spastic that it took me months to get my fingers working, and that by practicing every hour of the day that I had free. I didn't even have finger prints for a year. Finally I began to catch on and began learning a lot of songs that I would hear on the radio. I was told that I was tone deaf, and I was not allowed to take band in school. I forgot all about the wireless aspect, and bought a Gibson Melody Maker. It was far easier to play, in fact, it was unbelievably easy to play, so I began to learn at a faster pace, especially since the pain wasn't near as great.
I'm still not all that as a guitar player, but I still think that God had a lot to do with it.
I used to play everything off the cuff, changing the manner in which I played songs all the time. One day I realized that I was throwing out the good licks with the bad, yet I was still coming up with new better licks. So one day I asked God if he would allow me to remember the good licks and only throw out the bad ones. I said that I wanted to learn to play the song the same exact way every time. After all, I could always choose not to if I didn't want to.
I set out to make a recording on a cassette tape when I quit playing, so I would have something to show for my time. I had decided to quit playing all together for certain reasons. I would start a song and get almost all the way through, and screw it up and have to start all over again. Some songs I had to play 20 or 30 times to get them like I wanted them. After it was all over, I realized that God had granted me my wish. I COULD now play a song the same exact way every time when I wanted to do that.
Funny. I was hoping, and perhaps even believing at some level, that God would just go ZAP!! Now you can play a song the same way every time, note for note, with each note shaped and expressed exactly as I wanted it. And I still work out a song even if it takes playing it a hundred times to get it as close to right as I can. It doesn't bother me because I am looking at the end product, not to work it takes to get there.
As previously mentioned, I'm not all that, but God doesn't just go Zap, now you can play. And neither does the Devil. The people you refer to spent a lot of time with other really good musicians, and they picked up stuff along the way. They are dedicated. They are goal driven.
To even imply that they had to sell out for supernatural powers is at the least an insult to their skills and hard work.
It was so cool that I had to have one myself. But, I thought I had better learn a song first. An old blues dude showed me the beginning of Honky Tonk. I practiced 4-6 hours a day to learn that stupid song. My fingers cracked and split, and I would have to wipe the blood from the fingerboard and cauterize my fingers with my Zippo lighter. That would stop the bleeding and I would start in again and then do the same process all over again. I was so spastic that it took me months to get my fingers working, and that by practicing every hour of the day that I had free. I didn't even have finger prints for a year. Finally I began to catch on and began learning a lot of songs that I would hear on the radio. I was told that I was tone deaf, and I was not allowed to take band in school. I forgot all about the wireless aspect, and bought a Gibson Melody Maker. It was far easier to play, in fact, it was unbelievably easy to play, so I began to learn at a faster pace, especially since the pain wasn't near as great.
I'm still not all that as a guitar player, but I still think that God had a lot to do with it.
I used to play everything off the cuff, changing the manner in which I played songs all the time. One day I realized that I was throwing out the good licks with the bad, yet I was still coming up with new better licks. So one day I asked God if he would allow me to remember the good licks and only throw out the bad ones. I said that I wanted to learn to play the song the same exact way every time. After all, I could always choose not to if I didn't want to.
I set out to make a recording on a cassette tape when I quit playing, so I would have something to show for my time. I had decided to quit playing all together for certain reasons. I would start a song and get almost all the way through, and screw it up and have to start all over again. Some songs I had to play 20 or 30 times to get them like I wanted them. After it was all over, I realized that God had granted me my wish. I COULD now play a song the same exact way every time when I wanted to do that.
Funny. I was hoping, and perhaps even believing at some level, that God would just go ZAP!! Now you can play a song the same way every time, note for note, with each note shaped and expressed exactly as I wanted it. And I still work out a song even if it takes playing it a hundred times to get it as close to right as I can. It doesn't bother me because I am looking at the end product, not to work it takes to get there.
As previously mentioned, I'm not all that, but God doesn't just go Zap, now you can play. And neither does the Devil. The people you refer to spent a lot of time with other really good musicians, and they picked up stuff along the way. They are dedicated. They are goal driven.
To even imply that they had to sell out for supernatural powers is at the least an insult to their skills and hard work.
One side of this guys rib cage is deformed from the guitar.
How many ours of the guitar laying on it do you think it takes for that to happen?
http://youtu.be/u-vYXyr8QuI
...And he had to get that good twice. He had nerve damage after wrecking a ferrari, and had to build himself back up.
http://youtu.be/SzW8fi8z5C8
The Bass player Bill Sheehan has the same rib-cage thing from so many hours.
How many ours of the guitar laying on it do you think it takes for that to happen?
http://youtu.be/u-vYXyr8QuI
...And he had to get that good twice. He had nerve damage after wrecking a ferrari, and had to build himself back up.
http://youtu.be/SzW8fi8z5C8
The Bass player Bill Sheehan has the same rib-cage thing from so many hours.
GLEN J wrote:Cool except for the last 8 words of your post.
This whole post is ridiculous.
God loves us playing music. Giving praise comes in many forms. Some of us are very talented in so many ways.
When you put it that way and drag this out I would almost have to say that the best players, musicians. songwriters, guitarists, tromboners, drummers, and even children singing,,,,, Are just reflecting a gift from God.
I can't believe that many people added to this thread.
Music comes from the heart of all life, a gift from God.
I met up with the devil once, spat at my feet, and ran away screaming,,,
GOD SAVE ME.
interesting thoughts coming from a guy with a devil for an avatar..LOL!
Quite a lot of artists actors and such probably feel they made a deal with the devil,
but I'm sure that has more to with papers they signed somewhere along the line.
Etu,
I'm really not sure you said anything new there, seems like the farther back you go the more instances you find of spirit helpers or spirits that help them selves, and I can't really say what the real differences in language there was from Minoan, Mycenaean and Greek proper, after all from these same documents they cannot discover whether Homer was a man. woman or mixture of several people.
I'm not really sure this helps us anymore than digging through old scrolls to find out really why they call alcohol "spirits"
I would say this approach is very narrow, considering the amount of "spiritual" information there is to find over so many cultures over the last 10,000 years.
but I'm sure that has more to with papers they signed somewhere along the line.
Etu,
I'm really not sure you said anything new there, seems like the farther back you go the more instances you find of spirit helpers or spirits that help them selves, and I can't really say what the real differences in language there was from Minoan, Mycenaean and Greek proper, after all from these same documents they cannot discover whether Homer was a man. woman or mixture of several people.
I'm not really sure this helps us anymore than digging through old scrolls to find out really why they call alcohol "spirits"
I would say this approach is very narrow, considering the amount of "spiritual" information there is to find over so many cultures over the last 10,000 years.
If it's heads it's tails, just call me
Lucifer, cause I'm in need of some
restraint.
Please to Meet You
Hope you guess my name.
Played that at a party tripping one time, thought
I was the devil.
Dane if your going to give personal facts out about me,
make sure they are correct. My family has live in Marionville,
since 1939, when they raised enough money to get out of
Springfield.
Is God and the Devil the same today as in yesteryears?
Been around for a long, long year,stole many a man's
soul and faith.
Lucifer, cause I'm in need of some
restraint.
Please to Meet You
Hope you guess my name.
Played that at a party tripping one time, thought
I was the devil.
Dane if your going to give personal facts out about me,
make sure they are correct. My family has live in Marionville,
since 1939, when they raised enough money to get out of
Springfield.
Is God and the Devil the same today as in yesteryears?
Been around for a long, long year,stole many a man's
soul and faith.
It's a good day to die
touche Lynard, I don't live with my parents..and I have played in many MONey making BANDS INCLUDING but not limited to, CANDY COBURN..
darn Lynard, unless you have some sort of secretive musical side project going on, and want to go solo, and not have musical influences from other flesh and blood musicians, then we should be working on music together rather than fussing about petty stuff like message board banter
Etu Malku wrote:Dane Ellis Allen wrote:hey Etu, if you don't mind me asking, why do you use Baphomet as your moniker? is it just the flavor of the week for this thread?..lolActually it is the flavor of the month because I will be performing a Ceremony at the end of this month honoring Leviathan and Baphomet during Walpurgisnacht/Beltane.
Will Gandalf be there ? (Sorry could NOT resist)
JCP61 wrote:Quite a lot of artists actors and such probably feel they made a deal with the devil,
but I'm sure that has more to with papers they signed somewhere along the line.
Etu,
I'm really not sure you said anything new there, seems like the farther back you go the more instances you find of spirit helpers or spirits that help them selves, and I can't really say what the real differences in language there was from Minoan, Mycenaean and Greek proper, after all from these same documents they cannot discover whether Homer was a man. woman or mixture of several people.
I'm not really sure this helps us anymore than digging through old scrolls to find out really why they call alcohol "spirits"
I would say this approach is very narrow, considering the amount of "spiritual" information there is to find over so many cultures over the last 10,000 years.
What began on the whole as spirits of nature grew to become the gods of the pagan age. These in turn were reinterpreted and demonised as one culture dominated another. The most ancient gods become the giants and Titans, whilst younger conquering religions build new temples. These in turn became subjugated
to monothiesm, and their nature is reinterpreted yet again.
funny, I always thought giants were a result of sexual union between fallen angels and human women..it's neat how I learn things here..
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