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#170060 by MikeTalbot
Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:21 am
JazzAnarchy

I submit that a black kid in a white neighborhood is safer than the reverse.

There is a class of people now that I call ferals. Many are black. They speak a different language and might as well be from another planet. They shoot people regularly and guys like Zimmeran know to be cautious as a result. If there are four burglaries in your neighborhood and the bad guys are all identified as black youths then I imagine you are watching for black youths.

You may be amused to know this: When I first moved back to Atlanta in the 80s I moved (without knowing or caring) into a moving up Black middleclass neighborhood. Since my brother and I looked like thugs folks were a little reserved at first! :D

I didn't blame them.

As to Zimmerman - I'm reminded of an anecdote I heard repeatred for many years when I qualified for my various permits. "A big mean bad guy is standing across the street wtih a machete in his hand. You walk across the street and he attacks you."

Yes - you can shoot. But you'll wish you hadn't. There was no situation until you made it one.

That said I've heard so many conflicting stories and at least two admissions that the govt media was deliberately framing the case inaccurately to pursue an agenda. Not sure what to believe.

It pays to be armed these days but if you are, you have a double duty to avoid confilct.

Talbot

#170064 by PaperDog
Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:46 am
There is a whole lot of racial hatred in America...

If I grew up as an African American person, with love in my soul , for my family, heritage and such.. ... and if I was listening to story after story of how my grand parents and all their friends became abused, ostracized, beaten, murdered...You can believe I'm gonna grow up angry and I'd be hard pressed to think that "white-folk" as a 'culture' or a movement was any good on any level..

A white man, by himself, is not likely perceived as a threat to any individual black man... But , a white man, with a movement or an agenda... (as in political and legislative) Well, that's gonna set off alarms... "Why is he on my street..what's he gonna try to take from me today?"

From a social perspective: If white folk would care to take one moment in their lives and project themselves deeply into the shoes of their African American brothers and sisters... one might begin to grasp the magnitude of concerns that an African American faces, even today.

I can only imagine, what horror the African American people of the American past had to endure. In the eyes of those , who became enraged...my community of anglo-saxons must have appeared to them as monsters... Sadly, many of us were... I am indeed sorry...

Is there ever going to be a day of reconciliation? I'm talking about true reconciliation...Not the typical, "you stay in your corner and I';ll stay in mine..." I mean real reconciliation where neither side should ever need to worry or think in fear again......If there is a way...How shall it get done?...


Answer these questions, and therein will we find the solution to this race issue in America.

That's my take...

#170072 by Starfish Scott
Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:11 pm
I am a racist..

LOL I start at the beginning and "race" to the end, a pure racist. LOL
I do need a stock car, motorcycle or whatever you have, though.

I love people that are stupid, it makes the rest of us look BRILLIANT !!!

#170081 by Slacker G
Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:57 pm
As far as the race baiter's. NONE of these militant black a$$holes spent one day as slaves on anyones plantation. And neither have any that listen to them. Their leaders simply want them to feel as if they had to further their agenda, which is race baiting. Without racial conflicts the Jacksons, Sharptons and the black panther types would have to either go on welfare or get real jobs to eat. They have the same opportunities to stay in school like everyone else. Many choose to drop out because it's"cool". Then they bitch because they can't get jobs. They are such easy marks for the Marxists, Socialists, and Communist left movements and those folks want to push racism all the way to accomplish their agenda. They seem to forget about all the whiteys that died at one time to free them from the other whiteys who held them as slaves.
My grand parents on both sides were immigrants (Legal) and they didn't get here until long after slavery was abolished. Did any of you own slaves?

#170084 by Starfish Scott
Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:15 pm
Why does it have to be an "us" vs "them" mentality?

#170095 by PaperDog
Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:24 pm
Slacker G wrote:As far as the race baiter's. NONE of these militant black a$$holes spent one day as slaves on anyones plantation. And neither have any that listen to them. Their leaders simply want them to feel as if they had to further their agenda, which is race baiting. Without racial conflicts the Jacksons, Sharptons and the black panther types would have to either go on welfare or get real jobs to eat. They have the same opportunities to stay in school like everyone else. Many choose to drop out because it's"cool". Then they bitch because they can't get jobs. They are such easy marks for the Marxists, Socialists, and Communist left movements and those folks want to push racism all the way to accomplish their agenda. They seem to forget about all the whiteys that died at one time to free them from the other whiteys who held them as slaves.
My grand parents on both sides were immigrants (Legal) and they didn't get here until long after slavery was abolished. Did any of you own slaves?



Slacker , Factually speaking, you are not incorrect.. My great, great Gramps didnt subscribe to slavery and I dont know( either way) of any history in my immediate lineage contending with slavery... But I do know this...

Consider my analogy here... If a man beats a woman to an inch of her life, again and again and again... I don't think that him, sending her flowers and an apology is gonna make things right. ( In fact, as far as that woman is concerned, he's dead, persona-non-Gratis...and she has left the nest for good...never to look back.

This is the legacy that an early generation of white Americans left the world.

We can rationalize all day long about the protocols, which we continue to misfire on each other between whites and blacks... We can placate, pretend its alright... laugh and tell each other and believe in the typical horrid logic of how some of our best friends are 'black', as if that will fix things.

Some folks will be correct, some wont be.

What I am suggesting...is ,,.. Can we swap out protocols and look at the real solutions to make things right?

Can we change our inclination to stop beating others (Metaphorically speaking) as proof positive that we are earnest in out attempt to reach out and make right...

Yep it sounds like a bunch of Ideologue hooey. But the fact is , America has not really tried this approach yet.

The question of the day... What's it gonna take to make things right again?

#170097 by Slacker G
Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:13 pm
"The question of the day... What's it gonna take to make things right again?"


Hmmmmmmmmmm. ......Nuke Florida?

#170100 by JCP61
Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:39 pm
Slacker G wrote:
"The question of the day... What's it gonna take to make things right again?"


Hmmmmmmmmmm. ......Nuke Florida?


don't do that, my dad winters in fla

#170175 by JCP61
Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:43 am
the black community is not looking for a war.
organizations like the NAACP will exploit situations like this to hold on to their shrinking political influence.
if black and white aren't in conflict the NAACP has no power.

someone please inform me of any point in the history of man when the black race has started a war, then proceed to tell me how it turned out for them.

silly comments like IT"S A WAR!
just play into their hands.
if it even remotely started to look like a war, the black society would surrender, then get great terms as the once and future oppressed party.
a real race war in america would result in the extinction of black people 1st, then roll down the hill from there.

people who use the phrase it's a war! are vultures looking to feed off the dead.

#170180 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:49 pm
I think you've missed the point. It's not about the "war" so much as it is about declaring martial law because of the war.

It's about dividing Americans so we can be conquered at the same time.



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#170181 by JCP61
Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:17 pm
seriously?
that's pretty far fetched don't you think?
I mean come on..............this government can't even control, feed and house the people they have locked up already.
very Hollywood, very Orwellian, but ridiculous to the point of insanity.

I think it's pretty well established that the average American is not a threat to anyone.
that alone, rules out the need for stormtroopers.
as long as the bread and circuses are in ample supply, joe sixpack won't require anything stronger to control him.



but in the event you could always hide out in the desert with the vampier guy.
though it seems a little silly to hide out in a place that a new world terror war machine would be using as a proving ground.

#170221 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:30 am
JCP, you just keep sticking your head in the sand. That only leaves your butt in the air. In the meantime the basic transformation of America into some European model that is not about America,,,, Is about to, and will end soon.

The average American was raised on values you seem to be missing. Just call me Mccarthy.

But please don't call us stupid.

#170222 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:42 am
JCP61 wrote:seriously?
that's pretty far fetched don't you think?
I mean come on..............this government can't even control, feed and house the people they have locked up already.
very Hollywood, very Orwellian, but ridiculous to the point of insanity.

I think it's pretty well established that the average American is not a threat to anyone.
that alone, rules out the need for stormtroopers.
as long as the bread and circuses are in ample supply, joe sixpack won't require anything stronger to control him.



but in the event you could always hide out in the desert with the vampier guy.
though it seems a little silly to hide out in a place that a new world terror war machine would be using as a proving ground.



you are naive and apparently not really paying attention.


Time will tell and you'll remember that someone tried to warn you.

#170227 by JCP61
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:12 am
"As people are walking all the time, in the same spot, a path appears."
John Locke

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