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#169906 by gbheil
Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:49 am
joseph6 wrote:This particular Easter will be a special day to me for the rest of my life...my daughter was born today at 1:12 pm!

:D :D :D :D :D :D



Congratulations my friend.

#169908 by Shapeshifter
Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:01 am
Thanks! I'm very excited!

#169933 by Lynard Dylan
Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:01 pm
Happy Easter was is over.

I don't believe anywhere on this post

did I state my religous beliefs, but the grand

christians on this site assumed that for me.

I agree Mr Yod, are you Jewish? When I got out of college
an old Jewish man from St Louis hired me to sell clothing to
J C Penney's Sears, and K-mart, I worked and traveled the
country for that Jewish company for 5 years, taght me everything
I know about sales, and a lot of what I believe about religion, I
see signs of this deeper understanding in your posts.

If the Bible is gospel, what are all those old books that King
James discarded and claimed wasn't worthy for today's bible.
Are they not the gospel, or is your gospel something that was put
together by some 15th century king? Is that the only truth.

Did Jesus play loud metal music in church, or even praise team
music. I thought Jesus threw the moneychangers out, and advised
us not to make a circus of church. Bringing a gun to church is
wrong I said it. Guns for people who can't take care of themselves
and have no qualms about taking life.

Life is precious don't waste it.

#169950 by jw123
Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:05 pm
Congratulations Joseph, I guess I just sifted thru this thread enough to find your post, enjoy the new addition.

I will add that friday night, when we did our last supper reenactment, it felt almost like being in my band.

We have to sit there still in position the whole way, the first guy that did his part, just had this meter to his speech and everyone maintained it all the way thru, then the last song, I was counting it out and it had the same meter as the speechs, we got a standing ovation for the performance, we have done this thing close to 30 times thru the year, but it was just one of those magical nights where everyone nailed there parts. It was the first time we got applause for it, so all the guys were stoked, I was making jokes afterwards, Lets load up the tour bus and get in the road with this thing! No takers thou, hell Im just glad to be able to shave since I havent shaved in close to tow monthes getting ready for this! LOL!

I will be the last one to slam anyone for how they feel on religion, I just figure I got mine and you got yours, whatever flavor it is.

#169952 by Starfish Scott
Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:12 pm
Thank the good lord that everything went fine..

Congrats..

#169955 by jimmydanger
Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:24 pm
joseph6 wrote:This particular Easter will be a special day to me for the rest of my life...my daughter was born today at 1:12 pm!

:D :D :D :D :D :D


Wow, that's fantastic! I feel sorry for you lol.

#169968 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:59 pm
joseph6 wrote:I don't know, man, having my first at 41 scares me a little... :lol:

I think you can only be so prepared, and most of it is (gonna be) trial and error.



THAT is awesome news. Congratulations!

#169969 by PaperDog
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:08 pm
joseph6 wrote:This particular Easter will be a special day to me for the rest of my life...my daughter was born today at 1:12 pm!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

I just now caught this post...MUch Congrats Mr Joseph... Indeed a very special day ;)

#169970 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:18 pm
Lynard Dylan wrote:
I agree Mr Yod, are you Jewish?


no, but the bible and all it's characters are. Once that is removed from the narrative, you can make it say whatever you want.



If the Bible is gospel, what are all those old books that King
James discarded and claimed wasn't worthy for today's bible.




I assume you're talking about the apocrypha? Those are more fables being added to justify certain religious practices like prayers for the dead, giving alms to the "church" to get out of purgatory, and worshipping idols/icons among other such things.

The answer to why they don't belong is simple. They were never there in the first place...





Are they not the gospel, or is your gospel something that was put
together by some 15th century king? Is that the only truth.


you have swerved exactly into what is wrong with christianity. Today's version is overwhelmingly built on a european foundation that is based on greco-theology.






Did Jesus play loud metal music in church, or even praise team
music. I thought Jesus threw the moneychangers out, and advised
us not to make a circus of church. Bringing a gun to church is
wrong I said it. Guns for people who can't take care of themselves
and have no qualms about taking life.

Life is precious don't waste it.



your comments are so scattered that it's hard to tell when or if you are serious. I'm a bit worried about your blood pressure. You seem to get angry just to be angry. That's going to lead to an early grave, bro. Chill out....nothing is worth that.

I don't think Jesus has any problems with styles/genres. If He does, then everyone should be playing mizrachi jewish music. Abba (Father) is looking for those who will worship Him in passion & sincerity (in Spirit and in truth)

What is appropriate for any given situation is another matter. Heavy metal music is not appropriate in a black church, for example, but every tribe, tongue, and nation is represented in the Body. We bring what we have.

#169971 by JCP61
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:40 pm
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#169974 by PaperDog
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:44 pm
yod wrote:Oy....religion is a war.



Though it may be beautiful european art, many of those pictures are no more accurate than the one Etu put up (though his attempt at blasphemy hit the target he wanted). He wasn't a European...none of them were.

I believe that the pagans have a point about mixing the holy with the profane. As a former atheist that was all the proof I needed to convince myself it was all a bunch of hooey. In other words, if we truly believe that He is the way, the truth, and the life....why do we observe fables when the truth would be both better and easier?

We do so because a controlling organization in Europe told us to, and never considered that there was a better way. They were wrong and it's time to admit and reject it. Or we should at least accept that many will miss the truth because we've allowed it to be obscured by greco-traditions.

Here is the truth. All your Creator wants from you is to trust Him in every way. Abraham trusted God and it was counted unto him as righteousness, it made him a friend of God. No one has ever been saved any other way.

May we all learn to trust Him a little more on this Feast of Firstfruits.


Yod No Europeans ever forced me to adopt the Easter bunny as an associated way to celebrate my real convictions about the Resurrection. At no time in my entire life , have i ever confused the bunny for what I believe in my faith about Christ).

And To cynics out there, who just cant stand to see the world be happy about anything, i say to them .. When you Call 911 on your neighbors..(.cause those bastards are guilty of having 'FUN! ) please make sure you also include the following instructions to the No-FUN police; (Keeping in mind that there are no real connections between how we have FUN and the TRUTH

1) School Lunch Desserts: Get rid of em...No connection to Education...Besides That would imply FUN ...and cynics don't want that

2) Honeymoon Packages... Ban them...No connection to successful/enduring marriages...Besides, That would imply fun..and cynics detest that.

3)Different colors for Guitars .. Ban them! We simply don't need any color, other than haze-grey, maybe.. to represent the prevailing TRUTH about our guitar playing...Besides colors would be FUN...and cynics hate that idea...

4)SANTA CLAUSE - Ban all XMAS commercialism... We don't need any of it ...You want that bicycle for your kid? . Too fn bad! Who are you to intercede with the cynics' sensibilities by imposing FUN around a day that gives hope to humanity ..Oh, and make damn sure nobody gets that day off from work either. BTW this include the banning of Hanukkah and Kwanzaa (I mean whats a cynic without equal opportunity, right?)

5) Birthdays? You all can kiss that sh*t goodbye...no relevance to any truth whatsoever (We always lie about our age) Nothing pisses off a cynic more than to have FUN on the premise of your own existence.

I would submit to all the cynics , who are hell bent on taking the FUN out of our lives, to please cut off your penises .. You wont need those anymore, since 'pleasure' is not a necessity for procreation. Obviously, you might be accused of having FUN if your were caught sporting your penises...Well , FUN is unacceptable... so, off with 'em , please.

Now, can somebody come up with a compelling reason, why we should waste resources on Icing for cake? Seriously, its about the cake right? who needs the icing, since all that accomplishes is the concealment of the truth...(i.e the actual cake...) and oh yeah... it would cause too much damn FUN.

Welcome to metro-sexual America Folks...and to the REAL reason why we need the hold on to the 2nd amendment

#169976 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:57 pm
When did I ever say anything about taking the fun out? Don't project the legalistic pinheads on me. I think you would find that my whole point regarding the church is that they take the "fun" out of faith when they make it a religion. If you were to experience what I'm talking about, I think you'd find it a lot more fun actually.

Like I said, I have nothing against people who observe Easter. Every day is His, and we can honor Him in many ways.

The point is about what is true vs what is tradition and accepted as truth in it's place. Here is the truth: Easter is a specifically european christian religious tradition that ignores the biblical Feast of Firstfruits (which celebrates the resurrection since thousands of years B.C.) because Constantine and the bigots of the early church wanted to severe themselves from all things jewish or connected to Israel. The "church" rejected the wisdom and counsel of Polycarp, an actual disciple of John the Revelator, to choose a date separate from Passover that was originally connected to "weeping for Tammuz" at the spring equinox. In other words, they climbed a tree to tell a lie when they could stand on the ground with the truth...only because they didn't like the jewish nature of this jewish faith.

That kind of bigotry was rampant since the early church fathers. No one has addressed this bitter root in the history of the european institution that presumes to speak for God. Reform has always been a new coat of paint, instead rebuilding the house.
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#169977 by JCP61
Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:04 pm
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#169978 by PaperDog
Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:10 pm
yod wrote:When did ever say anything about taking the fun out? I think you would find that my whole point regarding the church is that they take the "fun" out of faith when they make it a religion. If you were to experience what I'm talking about, I think you'd find it a lot more fun actually.

Like I said, I have nothing against people who observe Easter. My only point is that it is a religious tradition that ignores the biblical Feast of Firstfruits (which celebrates the resurrection since thousands of years B.C.) because Constantine and the bigots of the early church wanted to severe themselves from jewish believers and Israel.

That kind of bigotry was rampant since the early church fathers. No one has addressed this bitter root in the history of this european institution. Reform has always been a new coat of paint, instead rebuilding the house.


Yod I was not referring to 'you' as on of those cynics. (yer okay in my book ;) I'm talking about real cynics...the folks who cannot fathom others ever enjoying anything whatsoever...(Think radical muslums like the Taliban..OR some other posters, right here on BM..LOL!...and they know who they are)

I get what your are saying about the religion drowning out the joy of the faith...
Fun is indeed a subjective term... I never have been a church-goer per se because (you are right..) they kill the energy and un-stoke the stokeness of the faith...

But aside from 'those' control freaks of the church... we have secular control freaks as well...(I call them cynics) .

#169979 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:16 pm
PaperDog wrote:
yod wrote:When did ever say anything about taking the fun out? I think you would find that my whole point regarding the church is that they take the "fun" out of faith when they make it a religion. If you were to experience what I'm talking about, I think you'd find it a lot more fun actually.

Like I said, I have nothing against people who observe Easter. My only point is that it is a religious tradition that ignores the biblical Feast of Firstfruits (which celebrates the resurrection since thousands of years B.C.) because Constantine and the bigots of the early church wanted to severe themselves from jewish believers and Israel.

That kind of bigotry was rampant since the early church fathers. No one has addressed this bitter root in the history of this european institution. Reform has always been a new coat of paint, instead rebuilding the house.


Yod I was not referring to 'you' as on of those cynics. (yer okay in my book ;) I'm talking about real cynics...the folks who cannot fathom others ever enjoying anything whatsoever...(Think radical muslums like the Taliban..OR some other posters, right here on BM..LOL!...and they know who they are)

I get what your are saying about the religion drowning out the joy of the faith...
Fun is indeed a subjective term... I never have been a church-goer per se because (you are right..) they kill the energy and un-stoke the stokeness of the faith...

But aside from 'those' control freaks of the church... we have secular control freaks as well...(I call them cynics) .




Thanks for the clarification. I thought you were talking about me because I consider myself a cynic of the "church" institution.... but not of the people in it. They are mostly being manipulated by theologians for many centuries now.

However, once the truth is pointed out we all have a responsibility for how we respond.





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