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#169643 by PaperDog
Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:13 am
Thejohnny7band wrote:PD,
To paraphrase Frank Z:
"We need vampire music because it makes the Vienna Philharmonic even more grand."

I believe everyone has the right to express their music as they please. I also reserve the right to choose not to like it.


Indeed its your constitutional right... and there is no requirement to like another persons art,,, But you, of all the folks should understand (after watching me) how ugly it looks to sneer and point fingers at other artists... SO Im gonna throw something out here, as a tactic you are familiar with: <grin> "Would Jesus approve of your contempt toward another person?

#169647 by Phil The Bune
Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:46 am
This thread is in danger of becoming one of those arguments where each side gets the last word in haha.

No problems with the Vamp meself, though I'm not personally in agreement nor 100% against. Agree that getting angry and hurling abuse is not the best way forward in a conversation.

I err on the side that we could blow up at any minute, but most likely it's a bit of a way off. As for gov't conspiracies, they've probably got more things to deal with day to day than further the lizard/alien agenda, but I'm sure they will be looking after our interests at the expense of others...way of the world. Would be interesting to see how many would actually "go without" to stop some of the nastier side of humanity. In ole Blighty we had a peek with panic buying of petrol recently, people starting to fight at petrol pumps to get their bit...without it, things would get nasty real quick.

Anyways, Vamp...going back a page or two. Yep, I know who Rutger Hauer is, one of me fave actors. Hitcher, Split Second, Blind Fury...nice to see him in Batman Begins too :)

#169653 by Jahva
Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:15 am
Thejohnny7band wrote:PD,
To paraphrase Frank Z:
"We need vampire music because it makes the Vienna Philharmonic even more grand."

I believe everyone has the right to express their music as they please. I also reserve the right to choose not to like it.


That should sum it all up... at least when dealing with adults.
But... certainly not always.

#169655 by Lynard Dylan
Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:18 am
Everybody's an adult till the crazy man goes wild.

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha Wipeout.
#169789 by Vampier
Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:01 pm
...Gratitude ... I wish to express my gratitude at the unexpected responses that have been posted here. I am impressed and of course appreciate what was said taking no exception to any of it. I understand that at times I am hard to take and as a result of this I became very surprised by the things which were stated by all of you. I know that many do not agree with my method or my discourse but still you have my respect now . I will address each of you later but I wished to issue my profound thanks and appreciation for what was said. In no way however do I consider any of it an endorsement for my views. We are in the middle of enduring "The Holy Week" or the Semana Santa. It is very much like being in a Fellini Film. Ta
#169821 by Vampier
Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:41 am
...PaperDog, I firmly believe that you are in any way an idiot. I always appreciate your views/recipes/humour. The compliments you pay me in your posts have always been reassuring and seem to demonstrate an acute understanding that even many that know me fail to percieve. I also believe that much of what you say can be readily applied to yourself.

I have in fact always "tried" to be polite and only defend myself when I truly feel that a line has been violated for no legitimate reason. I have also enjoyed what many have said whether I agree with them or not. I fear that the Art of conversation is fast becoming lost but there are those here in this Forum who are determined to preserve it. This alone gives me solace. FREEDOM is one of the most sacred things in this "Dream".

Only a few decades ago it was much easier to "convince" the masses to think, react and even believe a certain way. Now it has become easier to simply kill them. Changes occur more and more quickly now ... so those who were not aware, awake or angry before will now only percieve a "slight blur or ripple" and not ever concieve their "end". Ta very much

#169828 by Lynard Dylan
Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:17 am
Vamp I'm hereing you spout your bullshit now.
This is a music forum and I like to listen to the
players who can give musical advice. You seem
to fit into the category, they have around here I
call muse. You talk on and on about some bullshit,
that is not related to music. Even though it might
be in your fantasy. I guess you can be anybody
you want on the internet, and say anything you
want on the internet. In the end you look like a tired
old man who don't know what the f#ck he's talking
about. At the end of his life and wished he had more than
a run down RV in the desert.

Mr Vamp all i have to do is click off of the forum, and I'm
back in this beautiful world and life that I created for my
family through hardwork. I don't care what's happened in the
past and what's going to happen in the future. I will meet it
head-on with no fears, and as I've done with about everything
I'll win. I'm a man, and ICAN'T BE BEAT.

Become unbeatable if you can, it's your mind and body.

I never read this thread. What did you do to piss Glen off,
I find Glen to be honest and sincere, and I think he believes
in everything he say's. From what parts I've read of your thread
if you believe some of that bs your f#ckin crazy. Vampires, get
real vampires my ass, I CAN'T BE BEAT, even by vampires. My
family knows there safe when vampires comes around here, cause
old Dad ain't afraid to walk out in the frontyard kick your ass way
up between your legs. I'm internet p#ssy tho, there is so many
tough guys on my computer.
So Vamp grow up you ain't no g#dd#mn vampire, your mortality
is shining in your face isn't it. It's not to late lots of exercise and
fresh fruits and vegatables, and you can be the guy kicking sand
in people's faces.
#169920 by Vampier
Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:05 am
...Lynard ...I thank you for your Post and I certainly hope that you feel better now. When one is truly frustrated and does not understand what is going on or being talked about then it quite natural to lash out I suppose like a small child and not a " man".

Music ... I seek like minded musicians to create something real and relevant to this time in which we all find ourselves living. I do not expect you to be interested nor even to understand but feel that possibly before you spout forth about myself and music you might educate yourself by actually reading this post ? Perhaps then you can be more articulate and mature in what you say instead of hurling insults about things you do not know.

It seems I have somehow insulted your "manhood" or "macho" ? I am about to post another song which you may find of interest due to your "self professed " high religious beliefs which by the way are self evident in your frankly puzzling diatribe.

If you are trying to "rattle" my cage then try harder, do some reading, self searching and research. I have no quarrel with you. I have a very rewarding life which I Love. It is rich with nature, spirit, Art of many different kinds, friends and family who Love me and exercise both in and out of bed. I am a Pagan and live accordingly with my beliefs.

I do have an RV...called Heinkel, a mess truck named Messerschmidt, a tool truck known as Stuka, a large exuhaul moving van we call Junker, and another truck ....Focke Wulf. Yes they are all older vehicles ... Stuka is a 1960 Ford pickup with custom built toolboxes and very handy as the oldest. I personally have put three engines in him and another transmission. 390 V8's and standard with a "granny" gear if you know what that is.

I am more than pleased to discuss my vehicles, vampirism, politics and the ending of this Age /state of the world. Also Art, Dance, Music. History and many other grownup subjects. I have no desire to discuss religion with hypocrites, nor childish ideas of manliness and chest beating...sorry but I grew up with my fill of that.

Musically I desire to find some more "individuals" with whom I can work and who share some of the same beliefs I do regarding the potential of music to initiate action and to mark this time in history with something unique and far reaching and perhaps long lasting. Ihope this clears up a few things. Ta


liefs I do regarding the potential of music to reach and initiate feelings and thoughts

#169927 by Lynard Dylan
Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:15 am
You considered it lashing out huh Vamp,
kinda ate up with ourselves aren't we,



You fit in well you type but don't
understand what your reading.


Go on now and play with your named trucks,
and have a good life.

Remember the best revenge is living well.

#169934 by Etu Malku
Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:02 pm
Lynard Dylan wrote: So Vamp grow up you ain't no g#dd#mn vampire
Lynard, there are many types of vampyres, not just the celebrated Hollywood imagined ones. Vampier has never mentioned what vampyric path he practices.

#169957 by Starfish Scott
Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:32 pm
Regardless of what it is, I find I get creative juice(s) rolling when I read this stuff..

So far we have enough to write a short Anne Rice novel.
I love that genre, it's fascinating.

If any of this thread makes anyone angry, I would counsel you to relax a little. The world of absolutes is rough and jagged. No need to get cut on anything.

I just read the last bit of discourse and for a moment I got a fleeting sensation of this guy in a SS officer's uniform, flying a plane.
That's the meat and potatoes of where my stew comes from, the mind.

Fly on people, everyone's got their own plane to fly and the trip can be at least half the fun..and try not to crash, hmmm?
#170016 by Vampier
Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:28 am
...Thank you Lynard for your reply. I also wish you a good life. At least you have opinions and are not afraid to voice them. When I dwelt in California so many there did not wish to "upset" anyone so instead became smarmy two or multiple faced "whatevers" and that was hard to take. As I stated before I do not know how I set you off but let me say reading some of your other posts from time to time I find enjoyable and often agree with what you say. So I entreat you to please take my wishes for "a good life" as well meant and not false or spiteful ... for they are not thus.

Etu ... very good to hear from you. Knowledge of what is transpiring all around at this moment is often not discerned so any knowledge of the Occult is even more rarely understood or recognized. So as we both know none of of this is surprising. I thank you very much for your acute observations and always look forward to hearing from you.

Scott...I thank you for your post. Anne Rice is an interesting enigma. I have met with her a couple of times. She lived in San Francisco and also Sonoma ...hence some of the material in her books. I prefer her first one "Interview with a Vampire". Louis was a bit hard to take and nis oversensitivity I found tiresome and at times nauseating but... I do not know if you are aware of this or not ...Anne Rice lost her daughter to leukemia and this was the inspiration for "Claudia" and the novel was a kind of healing process for her. She was on the verge of suicide and drinking far too much. She locked herself away in her study and came out with the rough draft of the novel. Pretty impressive.

Her real name is Howard Allen Frances O'Brien. She wrote under the pseudonyms of A.N. Roquelaure and Ann Rampling ... erotica. I knew someone in San Francisco who knew her in the 60's and he told me she was quite odd. When she and several friends would go to the cinema she would sit alone in the front row wearing no panties and ... well it is rather fascinating I agree.

I thank you for what you have stated regarding this thread. I must admit that you are a bit difficult to "read" at first but upon reading some of your other posts I feel more respect than I perhaps did in the early part of this thread. But your sense of humour is for me hard to take at times but you are very insightful and you are "more" than you at first seem to be.

Your comment about the SS and plane made me think of SS Officer Hans Kammler who disappeared, on April 17, 1944 or 45. I can not remember but he left Germany on a Junkers 390. It was a huge 6 engine plane and I think only 2 were ever made. There is a heavy Vril connection ... also facsinating.

My Uncle...Grandfather's Brother, was actually in the Waffen SS. He had many very interesting stories. I like very much what you stated in summary ..."Fly on people..." Das ist gut. Danke

#170028 by Starfish Scott
Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:17 pm
Bitte Schon..

I am not well read, just little pieces of things I couldn't stop reading at one time or another.

Claudia, I am familiar with the character.
Wow that's a bombshell there and a very interesting commentary on how people deal with grief.

I don't care what people do at the cinema, as long as I don't know about it. Pee Wee Herman learned the hard way that some things are best done in private. lol

Bleh, we are what we are. No need to read hard into anyone or anything.
It's the internet, nothing is what it seems.

Vril, the Power of the Coming Race is an old book.

And I always loved the airplanes and jets of the German air core(s).

I've often thought that if I could slip back into time, I'd like to go where they take pilots based on heart and determination, instead of mathematical aptitude and size of frame.
It'd be win-win for me.

#170068 by Phil The Bune
Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:40 am
I've seen some interesting things at the cinema....bloody distracting it is!!

#170071 by Starfish Scott
Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:05 pm
Phil The Bune wrote:I've seen some interesting things at the cinema....bloody distracting it is!!


Why my dear fellow, this IS the cinema..just not the Pee Wee Herman variety.

(Just close your eyes a little bit and you'd be surprised at where one may travel to)

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