General Music Chat

look you stupid fat bastard,

Gih in mah belly.....!!!

musically , you couldn't carry my music stand. so, you write a few lame folk songs, best I can tell it just the same dumb folk song in 2 versions, 5 times. ooooo you bought a capo!!!

And yet...my lame songs still say more than you do[/i], LOL!

now we get to hear it in super cool and unusual new key. that is until you figure out you can't sing in D major
so you figured out that f and Bb go together, and after some golf applause you think you are going to talk to me about music?

Golf? Is that where you learned how to play your one an only scale? On your putter? Bwahahahahahah!

what a f**k'n joke.
I'm sure the coffee shop is already bored, your so completely uninspired and uncreative you have now taking to topical TV news spots for ideas.

Hmmm... It was either the news, or some boring historical anecdote about the Gettysburg address... At least in my case, I molded some good fiction out of my topic. In your case , all you manage to do is 'mold'. Bwahaahahaah!!

I can see why! singing about your fast ass self didn't take off, and your latest grade school effort won't go any farther.
nobody reads your long winded, out of context rants any more than they go back to the well and hear another round your dreadful plainsong.

Apparently, You read my long winded , out of context rants. Sorry, but no matter what I post, it wont make your mono-scale guitar skills improve. You'll have to find your own inspiration. (It would help if you get on an AA program....Hey! maybe Lynard can sponsor you!)

why I don't sound like you? or should i say why can't I play like you, cause I would have to have a frontal lobotomy before I sat down to compose.

Before you could get a lobotomy, ya'd need to have a brain... Bwahahahahah!

besides I moved past that stupid childish crap 25 years ago

Dude, Your arrested development started 25 years ago... Stop blaming others!

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LOL! Good one JC..

However, as usual, you are hitch-hiking off of somebody else's material. The only thing original about you is that you are the "Weekend At Bernie's" LOL! Now, go stick your finger in a wall socket and resuscitate yourself ... Ha ha!

as far as the rest of you guys go,

yelling at your tv set and then shitting your pants is not art.

no matter how good it makes you feel at the time.

I beg to differ, sir.

I don't watch tv.

Talbot

Count on it in here, someone is always mad at least for a day or so..

Take a breath, dance a dance, sing a tune, fall asleep by the light of the moon.

And then in the am, it's usually a little better. lol

Crap they keep it up and someone will mistake them for a married couple. Although that is hardly fair, neither have broken anything yet, or insulted their Moms.

PaperDog I love the melody, but my views are very contrary. For too many reasons I would be opposed to its message. Not my cup of tea, but Homemade Remedies is truly outstanding. It is a great song as others have said, has enough Beatles and Travelling Wilburys for wide appeal.

From 1 That exists between both worlds I e I'm a black man but but I listen to metal and I speak fairly properly and play guitar I'm often called a white person stuck in a black guy's body aside from that on 1 side of the coin I can see where his lyrics are coming from I also look at my own people and go what the f*** are we doing to our selves but at the same time I've also seen white people matching the same descriptions of his lyrics and since he didn't mention a skin coloer I could say that he's only targeting a specific style of person which could be black or white or hispanic or asian any races capable okay having corn rolls in the head and acting ghetto on the other side of the coin since most people can only see in 1 direction and since stereo typically the descriptionof the person in his song in people's heads mostly have to do with black people I would just say the majority of the world has a mature enough to hair something from 1 race that. could be confused with him bashing on another race or maybe he is races you never know these days but as an abstract thinker I can understand what you saying but at the same time you risk being labeled so I would say tread carefully n b a little bit more specific about what you're talking about when writing a song that could be over analyzed or miss understood

Well of course the vocals aren't great. You are not a singer. Song
sounds good to me. It has a kinda Neil Young tempo and feel to it.
Lyrics are such a grey area when songs are first created. Usually
you find the right vocals first and that can make lyrics easier. Everyone
sounds and sings different. You are a song writer.
I think it's funny how some people think they are all things.
writer
singer
rythm player
lead guitarist
keyboard player
background vocalist
drummer
recording engineer
mic tech
computer guru
music critic
bass player
amp expert
much more

Some are a few but nobody is all here that I've listened to
and that includes me most of all.
Critiqueing others is a point of view that everyone has.

I think its a nice song. Not a mind bending beat all.
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Well of course the vocals aren't great. You are not a singer. Song
sounds good to me. It has a kinda Neil Young tempo and feel to it.
Lyrics are such a grey area when songs are first created. Usually
you find the right vocals first and that can make lyrics easier. Everyone
sounds and sings different. You are a song writer.
I think it's funny how some people think they are all things.
writer
singer
rythm player
lead guitarist
keyboard player
background vocalist
drummer
recording engineer
mic tech
computer guru
music critic
bass player
amp expert
much more

Some are a few but nobody is all here that I've listened to
and that includes me most of all.
Critiqueing others is a point of view that everyone has.

I think its a nice song. Not a mind bending beat all.
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Thanks for the feedback Klugmo. Personally, I don't believe that every song warrants or merits a classical voice in the vocal. To me, its not always about the technical prowess or the "instrument" in and of itself. (Vocal or otherwise). Sometimes, Its simply about expressing the story with a raw gut or feel... I figure, as long as the verbiage is elocuted and articulated clearly enough...then the mission in that case, gets accomplished. Admittedly, I am indeed not a singer... And My voice will never compare to the likes of yours... but I do think I can hold a tune in general... (Sometimes in 'C' too... )

Re: [i]We think we are all things[/i]... Yep, its crazy. Being a songwriter in the amateur universe, such as is the case for me... is much like owning a hot-dog stand in an entertainment district. Some people have Filet - tastes, so we think that if don't burn the meat or the bun too badly, then were on track...LOL! Whats a hot-dog stand owner to do when he has to come up with a new way to serve a Chili-dog?

I gave up on engineering a long time ago.. I simply refuse to engage in it. I will pay somebody else for their knowledge and expertise... and basically throw my trust into that person. I am no expert on the guitar...I simply get by... But I will say, there are folks here, who can run circles around me...and I still will never listen to, let alone buy their music. Why.?. cause for all their prowess, they got nothing to say...

anyhoot.. Klugmo, I always appreciate and value your inputs, bro Thanks! : )

From 1 That exists between both worlds I e I'm a black man but but I listen to metal and I speak fairly properly and play guitar I'm often called a white person stuck in a black guy's body aside from that on 1 side of the coin I can see where his lyrics are coming from I also look at my own people and go what the f*** are we doing to our selves but at the same time I've also seen white people matching the same descriptions of his lyrics and since he didn't mention a skin coloer I could say that he's only targeting a specific style of person which could be black or white or hispanic or asian any races capable okay having corn rolls in the head and acting ghetto on the other side of the coin since most people can only see in 1 direction and since stereo typically the descriptionof the person in his song in people's heads mostly have to do with black people I would just say the majority of the world has a mature enough to hair something from 1 race that. could be confused with him bashing on another race or maybe he is races you never know these days but as an abstract thinker I can understand what you saying but at the same time you risk being labeled so I would say tread carefully n b a little bit more specific about what you're talking about when writing a song that could be over analyzed or miss understood

Thanks XHAdow...

Musician Art Rule # 1: Never create on the 'premise' or worry of being labeled.
Musician Art Rule # 2: Never ever (Never ever, ever? ...) apologize for your work


- Those who tell us we shouldn't, are usually the very people who "can't".
- Those who judge the content of our work, often do so, out of their own suitcase of laundry. That's not necessarily a sin... but do try to avoid the critics who have skid-marks in their skivvys


That said... I like that you are an abstract thinker... At the end of the day, the thing about my song is that nobody will go home bleeding to death.

Crap they keep it up and someone will mistake them for a married couple. Although that is hardly fair, neither have broken anything yet, or insulted their Moms.

PaperDog I love the melody, but my views are very contrary. For too many reasons I would be opposed to its message. Not my cup of tea, but Homemade Remedies is truly outstanding. It is a great song as others have said, has enough Beatles and Travelling Wilburys for wide appeal.

Thanks F or your Feedback LALong..


The message... Perhaps I can breifly annotate the meanaing I had in minds... Now, its not as important as is the meaning that others bring, which I find very curious...

Mr Cappucino = Every guy in America who thinks he's got real problems, but is more about the "movements, rather than the substance. Tyoically hasnt suffered real social despair. Usually, They offer no solution.

Mr Corn Rose: A real guy I saw on the news. A black man who shouted "Kill white people, Kill their babies, etc etc) (He was part of an org blocking Chicago voters from entering a poll during the Obam Prez election. In my song, check the lyrics.. I offer compassion... also borrowed from what Louis Farrakhan told folks at the million man march (Put your guns down and Pick up your Babies"... )

Mr Schubert Anybody, who feels they have been cheated in life... Yep we all have been. SOme had it a lot worse... (Hence the Jewish inference...based on what history shows us). There is justice eventually against the evil doers (Hence the joke is really on them) The only solution in the meantime...Let it go Forgive an forget... (Its the only real way to move forward in our lives.

Okay...That's my song in a nutshell... Its really about compassion, not hatred

I dunno why everybody got in an uproar bout it (but I am flattered for all the attention I just thought it was a cool song to share.
(Its net even finished yet LOL!)

Corn rows, is the distinct hair style of many minorities. It is extremely rare to see a blond hair blue eyed sporting corn rows, short of Bo Derek, who did wear it quite well. So once that imagery takes hold, Black man, not Bo Derek , everything else is association amplified by the musical tone of anger and sarcasm.

Mr. Cappuccino a stronger coffee and needless to say brown in color. Not many suite types of middle America who typically drink cappuccino wear their pants high thigh, although many minorities do. The section before enforces that, since there is not a whole lot of white Rastaban types running about. So it comes across as whomever was being like a Rastaban, is also Mr. Cappuccino. Or in other words Mr. Brown in color, who should adjust their gangsta apparel.

Are you a huge fan of Louis Farrakhan?

However, those who have used those words use half the sentence to fit their purpose, which, of course, I believe is to discredit me and the new Nation of Islam that has come up around me.
Louis Farrakhan

Was this the quote you meant:
I, say your name, pledge that from this day forward I will never raise my hand with a knife or a gun to beat, cut, or shoot any member of my family or any human being, except in self-defense.

Or this:
I heard my brother from the West Coast say today, I atone to the mothers for the death of the babies caused by our senseless slaughter of one another.

In that speech, it is the only time guns or babies are mentioned. In the song that line has unmistakable condescending bravado, very different from the intent of where it supposedly originates.

When a liberal quotes Rush Limbaugh, I usually find it hard to believe it is to further a conservative agenda. Strangely enough, the opposite is true. It is an assumption of arrogance, that only the negative aspects must be true and quote worthy. It does not matter what the message is, since the act itself is always a misrepresentation. Unless I should rely on what Nancy Pelosi thinks is pertinent, of what Rush Limbaugh says? Somehow I think it would be contrary to Rush Limbaughs intentions.

Would Nancys attempt at distorting the context be compassion towards conservatism? Is your attempt at distorting what Louis Farrakhan actually said a compliment, a matter of compassion? I do not think so. A paraphrase at best capturing only the anger and dismissing any honorable traits of the whole message. In short he never said: Put down your guns and pick up your babies, but you did.

Is the specific Mr. Corn Rose a criminal and a deadbeat dad, or is that just all those with that hair style that are? Was that what you meant? No matter, it is what you said.

The Mr. Schubert part, I had no association for. I assumed it some recent or past person in the media news, which I do not watch.

In either case when you get down to it, any music is a trail of bread crumbs that can lead to more than one place. Lyrics in a song lack explanation and the first impression is always the strongest. I could probably write a song about burning of diseased bodies during the last pandemic, touting the advantages of the Final Solution. Also compassionate since it is what keeps the remainder of the survivors free from disease. With a wink and a nod towards those lyrics that indicate otherwise.

At face value it is a hateful tune to me. The idea that I should blame Mr. Corn Rows for all our troubles, a lost message. Mr. Corn Rows does not run anything in this country. In fact none of the people do, part of the problem. So yeah a good melody, the content a total miss for me though. Not to say it would not have an audience, just that a decent percentage will see it the way that I did. Good luck explaining it to Al Sharpton. Whenever I mention good ole Al, I find it only fair to mention Tawana Brawley.

Personally I like this guy He put something out controversial and was fully prepared to Stand his ground behind it and back it up In an educated Manor You do that too much these days

Wow, I blew it.

I thought the CORN ROWS were about someone's teeth.

I thought the CAPPUCCINO was a ref to me. (doh thus the pull up me pants remark)

I still liked it, bears adding to it..color me embarrassed that I didn't get the whole message..(eeek) lol