General Music Chat

" In Example, President Obama is a beautiful, articulate, charismatic, charming , human being. "

That's funny.

No sh*t ... someone is delusional. Obama is as evil as a man can be and still be human.

Stalin wannabe ...

You don't have to be black to be a nigger ... this country has too damn many niggers riding the back of working men and women of all race.

Wake the f**k up man ...

Forty percent of any population cannot support the other sixty percent.
It's design to fail by intent ...

Don't understand? Read Mao's Little Red Book. Textbook Obama ( Soros ) strategy.

Ooh do not expect people to read..that's a forgotten skill at this juncture in time.

I've said that playing the blues is like having to be black twice. Stevie [Ray Vaughan] missed on both counts, but I never noticed.?

B. B. King

for some it's about space, for some of us all that matters is that we didn't steal someone else's licks.

Really? Dude, I like some of your stuff..but every last bit of it has Zappa, Beck and McLaughlin written all over it... (Yeah , I do my homework) Now, my point is very simple... You will be a very wealthy man, if you can actually come up with a new variation that hasn't already been done. I just think you haven't given yourself due permission to make something valuable out of your lead guitar playing skills... Never the less, if we aren't getting paid to do this... then it is entirely for fun...

"A brilliant artist borrows his ideas from others. A genius steals them..." - Pablo Picasso

that aside,
it not really easy to respect people who are bursting at the seams to yell nigger, but are quite afraid to say it out right
even though I could never be accused of seeking out or desiring the company of black people or hispanic people, or any aboriginal peoples in general.
I find my own race barely tolerable.
I don't believe music is the place to express or immortalize these types of feelings.
Once you have done so you are quickly forced to equivocate, compromise and declare on most levels that you are a hypocrite, or a racist or both.

I prefer just to admit I'm a racist and let it go at that.
not withstanding that I sometimes meet men who are not my race who's company I believe I would prefer to many a white man.

but this is america, and you will do as you may,
that, certainly is what Farrakhan and his ilk are doing, now you are doing it with them, by your own admission.

for once your hatred is directed at a caricature, you have entered the realm of propaganda.

JC, You are completely wrong. In fact, Where I suspected it in the past, I now firmly believe that you lack artistic any degree of competency and interpretive skill. Scholastically speaking, that borders on epic fail in my book.

Clearly you have brought your own suitcase of ties and baubles to my song.

First off, How dare you insult us with your racial epitaphs. This song is NOT about promoting racism...In fact, its quite the opposite... Its a song of compassion...and humanity... But you probably don't have the capability to grasp that... (You are either a savant with the guitar, or you have Asberger's Syndrome...and I am banking on the latter)

If you had taken notice of the three verses, the conclusive parts of the prose, (the lines in parenthesis) add up to a very simple and righteous calling.


The fact that you completely missed the inference to the Jewish community (you were OCD on black folk, which clearly has you out to be the real bigot here) just tells me how self -absorbed you really are...locked away in that DC metro mindset, that seeps all over your postings.

I only say these things to you, because you are the one spewing out non-sense about "propaganda"

But I do wish to thank you for stirring up the contraversy... I made you 'look"... and that's a worthy accomplishment in my book

Cheers!

serious waste of guitar

cartoon black people,
what a shame.

???

One thing you folks NEED to Learn about TEXAS BLUES! Damn just listen to Pink Floyd! you don't have to be so dissonant and you don't have to play a MILLION notes a second! It is about SPACE! Come on guitar pickers let a note BREATH (spacial)

Here is an example WATCH & LEARN?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSWAkJ3h8E&feature=fvst

Dog I forgot to say how much I like your song!

serious waste of guitar

cartoon black people,
what a shame.

???

One thing you folks NEED to Learn about TEXAS BLUES! Damn just listen to Pink Floyd! you don't have to be so dissonant and you don't have to play a MILLION notes a second! It is about SPACE! Come on guitar pickers let a note BREATH (spacial)

Here is an example WATCH & LEARN?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSWAkJ3h8E&feature=fvst

Dog I forgot to say how much I like your song!

Much Thanks Jeff... I truly appreciate it.

THere are many valid points about the Guitar licks...

ME , being inexperienced in lead guitaring...had assumed a conservative, perhaps overly cautious approach about the leads. George and I discussed this considerably...
We did not want it to become too 'busy'...But admittedly, I dont know when it's enough.
My goal here, was to use the licks as underscores for certain lyrical magnitude... and let the lyric and bass carry the seething strength.

Technically this song is not finished. The areas that I believe need to be cleaned up are:
1) The breaks: This middle eights... THose need a real viruosity of guitar soloing.. I am cluless (but practice to figure out a way..). I have a young feller who can shred with the best of em... I'll probably ask him to step in there.

2) The last section... Its a giant gap,. begging for more guitar underscoring... That section will be modified to include a 'slam poetry' reading (of urban tone), which, by the way will offer the "other side" of the story... (It was intended in the first place)

PD,
My honest opinion is it's not your best work but then again you've set the bar pretty high so far. And I look forward to your finished product.

Musically it's a good guitar-line I can see as others have said there is room for more licks especially towards the end. But over-all it has a nice darkish bluesy feel to it. But not as special as your other tunes. imo.

As for the lyric... speak your mind. It made me feel uneasy but life will sometimes do that to you. I didn't get anything positive out of the lyric. Not that there has to be but I missed the happy ending.


Tupac made me feel uneasy at times. I believe that was his point.

I have a friend at work who raps. He tells stories of what he has seen even if it's the ugly side of life he speaks the truth as he has seen it. That's how it's suppose to be, even if it offends someone. Life is sometimes offensive. I wouldn't call you a racist from this but it walks a line were people will consider it controversial. I'm sure you can see why some would view it as racist. It's the world we live in.

Much Thanks for you inputs, Jahva.

I truly respect and appreciate your statement about your sentiment surrounding the song's degree of 'special. I only ask one small favor... Give it about a day's rest and go back and listen to it again... I want to know...specifically if it grew on you. .

I agree with the consensus about the licks... and I will fix that ( Read my response to Jeff).

The controversy... LOL! I had not expected that... Funny you mentioned Tupac... His music (among others) actually has some bearing of influence in this song (I always went crazy over "California Love") ... I was always intrigued by his (and Dre's) style.

While the song never intended to be offensive, it has somehow struck a raw chord with some folks... (I know of one racist on these boards, who is completely put out...and drawn out from underneath his rock.... Ha ha! ) ...

Sing a song about killing cops or forcefully sodomizing women and your a cultural hero.

Sing a song about not living like a cockroach ... your a racist?

Well... I look forward to hearing it finished with the poetry read.
Maybe I'm off on my critique of the piece.
Like I said you've set a pretty high bar for yourself.

Sing a song about killing cops or forcefully sodomizing women and your a cultural hero.

Sing a song about not living like a cockroach ... your a racist?

LOL! Very well stated! Damn Sans... Keep that one...Must use it in a song

Well... I look forward to hearing it finished with the poetry read.
Maybe I'm off on my critique of the piece.
Like I said you've set a pretty high bar for yourself.

Jahva, You are never off on your critiques... I truly respect all that you have to say... and I value you all your feedback..

Nice work!

I agree with the comment about Homemade Remedies - very Harrisonish

Thanks so much, GuitarMikeB!
Admittedly the song has much of the Traveling Wilburys influence behind it... I cant I help it.. I loved everything they did...I love everything Harrison has done... and what is soooo cool about him and them...is that in their material, one can really learn the principles of good song-writing. Hell they practically handed the magician tricks over on a silver-platter.

I've said that playing the blues is like having to be black twice. Stevie [Ray Vaughan] missed on both counts, but I never noticed.?

B. B. King

for some it's about space, for some of us all that matters is that we didn't steal someone else's licks.

Really? Dude, I like some of your stuff..but every last bit of it has Zappa, Beck and McLaughlin written all over it... (Yeah , I do my homework) Now, my point is very simple... You will be a very wealthy man, if you can actually come up with a new variation that hasn't already been done. I just think you haven't given yourself due permission to make something valuable out of your lead guitar playing skills... Never the less, if we aren't getting paid to do this... then it is entirely for fun...

"A brilliant artist borrows his ideas from others. A genius steals them..." - Pablo Picasso

appreciate the complement

boy i would have loved to see that homework..

that aside,
it not really easy to respect people who are bursting at the seams to yell nigger, but are quite afraid to say it out right
even though I could never be accused of seeking out or desiring the company of black people or hispanic people, or any aboriginal peoples in general.
I find my own race barely tolerable.
I don't believe music is the place to express or immortalize these types of feelings.
Once you have done so you are quickly forced to equivocate, compromise and declare on most levels that you are a hypocrite, or a racist or both.

I prefer just to admit I'm a racist and let it go at that.
not withstanding that I sometimes meet men who are not my race who's company I believe I would prefer to many a white man.

but this is america, and you will do as you may,
that, certainly is what Farrakhan and his ilk are doing, now you are doing it with them, by your own admission.

for once your hatred is directed at a caricature, you have entered the realm of propaganda.

JC, You are completely wrong. In fact, Where I suspected it in the past, I now firmly believe that you lack artistic any degree of competency and interpretive skill. Scholastically speaking, that borders on epic fail in my book.

Clearly you have brought your own suitcase of ties and baubles to my song.

First off, How dare you insult us with your racial epitaphs. This song is NOT about promoting racism...In fact, its quite the opposite... Its a song of compassion...and humanity... But you probably don't have the capability to grasp that... (You are either a savant with the guitar, or you have Asberger's Syndrome...and I am banking on the latter)

If you had taken notice of the three verses, the conclusive parts of the prose, (the lines in parenthesis) add up to a very simple and righteous calling.


The fact that you completely missed the inference to the Jewish community (you were OCD on black folk, which clearly has you out to be the real bigot here) just tells me how self -absorbed you really are...locked away in that DC metro mindset, that seeps all over your postings.

I only say these things to you, because you are the one spewing out non-sense about "propaganda"

But I do wish to thank you for stirring up the contraversy... I made you 'look"... and that's a worthy accomplishment in my book

Cheers!

obfuscation

whatever son, it's your song I just listened to it.

that aside,
it not really easy to respect people who are bursting at the seams to yell nigger, but are quite afraid to say it out right
even though I could never be accused of seeking out or desiring the company of black people or hispanic people, or any aboriginal peoples in general.
I find my own race barely tolerable.
I don't believe music is the place to express or immortalize these types of feelings.
Once you have done so you are quickly forced to equivocate, compromise and declare on most levels that you are a hypocrite, or a racist or both.

I prefer just to admit I'm a racist and let it go at that.
not withstanding that I sometimes meet men who are not my race who's company I believe I would prefer to many a white man.

but this is america, and you will do as you may,
that, certainly is what Farrakhan and his ilk are doing, now you are doing it with them, by your own admission.

for once your hatred is directed at a caricature, you have entered the realm of propaganda.

JC, You are completely wrong. In fact, Where I suspected it in the past, I now firmly believe that you lack artistic any degree of competency and interpretive skill. Scholastically speaking, that borders on epic fail in my book.

Clearly you have brought your own suitcase of ties and baubles to my song.

First off, How dare you insult us with your racial epitaphs. This song is NOT about promoting racism...In fact, its quite the opposite... Its a song of compassion...and humanity... But you probably don't have the capability to grasp that... (You are either a savant with the guitar, or you have Asberger's Syndrome...and I am banking on the latter)

If you had taken notice of the three verses, the conclusive parts of the prose, (the lines in parenthesis) add up to a very simple and righteous calling.


The fact that you completely missed the inference to the Jewish community (you were OCD on black folk, which clearly has you out to be the real bigot here) just tells me how self -absorbed you really are...locked away in that DC metro mindset, that seeps all over your postings.

I only say these things to you, because you are the one spewing out non-sense about "propaganda"

But I do wish to thank you for stirring up the contraversy... I made you 'look"... and that's a worthy accomplishment in my book

Cheers!

obfuscation

whatever son, it's your song I just listened to it.

Which quite frankly, is more than I would give to yours . Thanks.

Oh, hold me while my heart goes, crack.