General Music Chat

Tyler you are young but you will gain knowledge as you go.

Ive found that anyone in a musical adventure is replaceable.

Good Luck, as I said you have some bass chops, you have the makings of Jaco in your blood!

Keep On Keepin On

Good Luck

Lol, the confidence of youth.
All Parts are "replaceable".

TylerBarnes wrote:

Guitarists tend to make every song about their masturbatory wankly pankly solos.

As opposed to a bass player that uses the music to highlight his bass parts? Yes, you are right. World of difference.

Tapping, BTW, is ONE technique. Save up your money and buy a Chapman Stick...then look for other Stick players and you'll figure out where you belong. Odd time signatures are neat, but tend to work against the groove. And I'm sure you know this, but the bass guitar is designed for the "lower end".

Frankly, as I told you before, I think you have talent with the intsrument, BUT I think you are a one-trick pony. Worse yet, you are so fueled by your own ego that it's your way or the highway...too bad. Ultimately, your route to success will be playing in an established band-in which case, you'll get to do your little odd metered bass tapping schtick for about 30 seconds out of every performance.

You haven't invented your own genre (it's evident that you think you have and want people to pat you on the back for your inguenity). (sp).

Learn other techniques, and learn to GROOVE.

Never claimed or implied to have invented anything... I just asked for help defining what to call it genre wise. If you all want to criticize and nit pick instead, go ahead. But don't then defend your criticisms afterward when I state my disagreement with all this "He hasn't headed my elitist advice, he's obviously blinded by his ego to be able to see the truth." It's not an ego to know what I want and not care about the mass wide spread pop appeal of it.

True, by posting in a forum, and essentially telling people to go listen to my stuff, I'm looking for a little bit of praise. What on earth is wrong with that? I'm sure you play music on a stage. Isn't that for praise? Posting on the web is relatively trivial in comparison for you to come at me with 'You're just looking for praise.'

But tell me this. what have I said to evoke such a response from you people? You say I have this huge ego, but I'm only stating my opposition to claims that I'm going about everything the wrong way. (aside from the anti guitarist wankly pankly comment)

I'll state again, I never asked for an evaluation from everyone. Though, I'll sure respond to claims made by pseudo-wise men thinking they are passing on ancient wisdom. I tried to drop it. All you seem to want to do is try to provoke this ego you imagine me having.

Man1: You're going about that all wrong, you might want to try this.
Man2: Thanks for the input mate, but I kinda have what I want figured out.
Man1: Woah! You don't want to trash your entire vision for what I think it should be? Some ego you got there.

This is the direction I chose to take my music... I'm not looking to market my music to everyone and their dog. I've stated before I'm making the music I like listening to. Why does everything have to turn into an argument or accusations on ones ego? Just leave it alone, and stop trying to change people. I just wanted to network and talk to other musicians about my passion.

fyi, Just cause these TWO tracks are all tapping, doesn't mean that's all I know or that I have one tricked ponyism. I actually play in a Prog Metal band (not djent) and I utilize some intermediate/advanced fingerstyle, and slapping.
The tapping is just more dynamic for solo pieces due to the fact I can attack it like a piano and play rhythm and lead simultaneously without multitracking. For example Jean Baudin does purely tapping and Eric Czar multitracks. Both extended rage bass tappers

I don't want to play a chapman stick. It has no balls. Why would you consider that instrument reserved for every tapper out there? The electric bass is a very young instrument and it's evolved far from its dull lowpass filtered beginnings. and has become a bright vibrant tapping medium.

Tyler it's music, it's your music. Don't look for a label. Just put your signature on it. That's all that matters. You're young and talented just enjoy it for what it is. No matter what someone calls it what you really want to hear is they like it. Hopefully they call it good music.
Good Luck to you.

like most people have stated here...
you have got good chops...

but I really must break it to you...

you are a guitar player

sorry about your luck

you are a guitar player

Yeah I suppose so, if you care about semantics. The bass guitar is indeed a guitar. But if words are going to have any actual meaning, their usage should reflect the implied common meaning. Everyone knows what is meant when someone says guitar player or bass player. You are arguing with technicalities of grammar. And at that point, why even bother?

you are a guitar player

Yeah I suppose so, if you care about semantics. The bass guitar is indeed a guitar. But if words are going to have any actual meaning, their usage should reflect the implied common meaning. Everyone knows what is meant when someone says guitar player or bass player. You are arguing with technicalities of grammar. And at that point, why even bother?

well i suggest you stop adding strings to it and get a bow
and then people won't think that you really want to be guitar player.

well i suggest you stop adding strings to it and get a bow
and then people won't think that you really want to be guitar player.

Just wow. You seem to be reacting to the wankly guitar comment, cause theres no other reason I can think of that would cause one to go so far as to attack the tools a musician chooses to use to make their music. Did I hit a sore spot with you, so you're deciding to lash out? I bet it's because you're really proud of your song Soul Clock even though that precisely the kinda wanking my earlier comment was referring to. Jerkin' it to a photo of Vai.

Besides, using a bow, I'd imagine, would warrant the same response from you, except it would be "You're tying to be a violinist so go buy one of those."
I could say stop adding effects pedals or people would think your trying to be a synthesizer.

Don't be butthurt just cause bassist have the option to play higher registers than they used to. Enabling them to actually make music where guitarist aren't even needed. It might be foreign to you, but the guitar doesn't have to be in every band. Grow up old man.

You epitomize an arrogant, wet behind the ears brat who thinks he has it all figured out. You are a one trick pony.

Should you keep doing what you do? Absolutely.
Should you stick to your guns and grow in your boring genre? Absolutely. Should you grow up and quit being a sensitive tool? Absolutely.

well i suggest you stop adding strings to it and get a bow
and then people won't think that you really want to be guitar player.

Just wow. You seem to be reacting to the wankly guitar comment, cause theres no other reason I can think of that would cause one to go so far as to attack the tools a musician chooses to use to make their music. Did I hit a sore spot with you, so you're deciding to lash out? I bet it's because you're really proud of your song Soul Clock even though that precisely the kinda wanking my earlier comment was referring to. Jerkin' it to a photo of Vai.

Besides, using a bow, I'd imagine, would warrant the same response from you, except it would be "You're tying to be a violinist so go buy one of those."
I could say stop adding effects pedals or people would think your trying to be a synthesizer.

Don't be butthurt just cause bassist have the option to play higher registers than they used to. Enabling them to actually make music where guitarist aren't even needed. It might be foreign to you, but the guitar doesn't have to be in every band. Grow up old man.

no, I was just reacting to a guitar player desperately trying to prove he's not one.
you even went so far as to come in here so we could tell you what type of music you play.
well son, the 1st thing i guess i should have told you is that you're a guitar player.
then the rest would have been a lot easier for you.

Guitarists tend to

Yeaaaah .... And white people are.... and women are...... and old people are..... and Americans are......
In case you don't get that it means DUH! There are as many different sounds that come out of guitars as there are species of animals on the planet.




Learn to play the rest of the instruments you want in your wanking or get a band who espouses your... ehem.... vision. Or else it sounds like casio MUZAK.

To be clear the wanking guitar solos you deride are what your arrangements or "songs" are to people who appreciate unforgettable, beautifully crafted songs.

The drums sound like the programmed plastic drums on Cookie monster metal. CLickety clickety clickety clickety.

Don't care if that sounds smug...

Oh look! A clear indication of how much growing you have to do! A clear indication of what an arrogant punk you are! Thanks for laying it out there nice and plain so I know I can ROAST you. And that you merit the good roast.

Smell something burning? It's inexperience mixed with arrogance.

"Hey, could someone listen to my music and tell me what style it is? Oh, but please don't evaluate it...I already know it's awesome! And if my music belongs in the "Meandering boring elevator muzak crap" genre, then don't tell me, 'cuz I'm only accepting pats on the back."


Get over yourself. You opened yourself up for critique, whether knowingly or not, and now you want to debate the responses. A simple "Thank You" would have sufficed. Elitist advice? No. Experienced? Absolutely. Something you are clearly not.

The ironic thing is that, while your genre of music might have not been defined, your personality sure has:

Egocentric, arrogant, wet behind the ears, one trick pony and douchebag (I just added that last one).

Well for what it's worth. I didn't come here to argue or make enemies. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I'm just a punk kid. I'm sorry for calling out folks that didn't quite deserve it (JCP). And I apologize if I gave you the impression that I thought I knew everything... I know my music isn't perfect. I know I don't know everything. I know I need improvement. I'm not out to get anyone and I don't hate guitarists. Just leave me alone with all you're damn hate. What am I s'pose to do when everyone is ganging up on me telling me I don't know what I should be playing, or telling me I'm not even a bassist, or just assuming I'm getting an attitude when I merely disagreeing with criticisms I didn't even ask for. Think what you want. I'm not arrogant, just sensitive, defensive, and tired of getting bullied. If you don't like my music fine. I don't need advice from people that don't even enjoy the genre.

Good luck. You have talent.