General Music Chat

Read the following . It's from a coffee house venue . Personally I think this is a case of greed and I give them about another 3 mo before they fold or change their strategy...But tell me what you guys think? The following was a notice posted to some of our local musicians.

Music has always been a vital component of The Percolator's ambiance and nightlife. Life at the Perc just wouldn't be the same without local talented bands and musicians. For this very reason we present to you percRADIO. A new way for local music to be heard and discovered. 2012 Launch Special Dont miss out on our s...pecial for the month of January! 50% off on any of the packages below! Basic Package Only $7.50 a month for one song that will be played on our facebook page $5 for any additional song Premium Package Only $12.50 a month for one song that will be played on our facebook page and insde The Percolator throughout the day $6 for any additional song CD SALES Artist may choose to sell their CD's at The Percolator. CD's must have cover art and some type of packaging. The sale will be split 50/50 with the venue. Price your CD's accordingly. **Contact us for details Contact info is in the "Info" tab to the left of our facebook page

well that's promotion,

it just a matter of, do you have a song you think is worth the effort.

If you've got the goods it's a small investment to get a song out. But also a small market. The right song in rotation could create a buzz for you at the locale.
But I don't know about 50% of the CD sales.
CD's don't take up that much real-estate do they... I mean if you had some display and a poster then you're getting something in return.
But if they're just gonna sit on an empty shelf somewhere in a backroom...

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No its not spam... I am actively engaged with this venue and a lot of the local beatniks are upset about the 50% part of it.

Usually when I play live I pick some obscure music to play while I'm setting up. but To go to a place and drink coffee and listen to recordings of obscure music sounds like hell for musicians.

Usually when I play live I pick some obscure music to play while I'm setting up. but To go to a place and drink coffee and listen to recordings of obscure music sounds like hell for musicians.

I've heard some obscure stuff I liked.

I think hell's the same for all of us.

Nothing lasts forever Paperdog.

Usually when I play live I pick some obscure music to play while I'm setting up. but To go to a place and drink coffee and listen to recordings of obscure music sounds like hell for musicians.

Yeah, I agree... Actually some BG on this venue...It caters to a shitload of lawyers who work in that area by day. At night, it caters to the 17+ crowd half of which come over the bridge, the other half likely being the sons and daughters of those lawyers...

There are local musicians, who go there for the Open Mics (Me as one of them) to get feet wet with audiences... (That's the stage I'm currently at)

But this venue has no means or connection to publishers, agents, etc...Hell they cant even recommend any bands to other clubs... so the point is ...there is absolutely nothing useful in what they offer to be demanding 50% of CD sales. (Unless the CD's are about Law cases).

What I predict is that all their night biz is gonna move a couple of blocks up the street to other venues who can provide the same ambience but who are more supportive.. I'm just guessing

They used to have a place Downtown called the Old Buffalo , had bands like Moonpie, Big Sonny and the Lowboys, City, those were the days. good to see something is going on there.

Went to Andress HS in 74-76

Yeah, that doesn't seem like a win for the musician at all.

To be fair, it does state "price your CD accordingly". That means, if you need to get $5, charge $10. If you sell some, win. If you don't, not a loss.

I think it's a win, just as long as you pursue it aggressively and you make sure they are doing this right.

You're talking about $12.50, and you're going to put my song in the rotation for a month. However, if, after a week, I ask one of the staff members (under the presumption of wanting to buy the CD) and they can't tell me whose album it is, or the band name, then I want my money back for that month. I want that agreement in writing.

RETAIL MARKUP:

In the meantime, to make the CD's work for you, all you have to do is operate under a little Retail Markup 101. In other words, if you would normally sell your CD's (which apparently haven't all sold) for $10, then you'll simply have about ten CD's there available at $15.00, of which you would get $7.50, or 75% of what you'd normally get as opposed to 50%.

It's not like you're giving them exclusivity over the CD sales, so you can sell them wherever you want at whatever price you want, and you also control how much of your inventory you give them, so I don't see what the problem is.

Ultimately, if you don't have a label, you decide how much you're going to get out of your own CD's, regardless of what the price is. Give it two months and if you haven't sold any, pull out of the deal and you've only lost $25 anyway. Who knows? Maybe you'll sell 4-5 a month (or more) and the thing pays for itself, makes you a couple bucks, and gets your name out there better.

They used to have a place Downtown called the Old Buffalo , had bands like Moonpie, Big Sonny and the Lowboys, City, those were the days. good to see something is going on there.

Went to Andress HS in 74-76

The New Buff Yep I know it Well ...Its gone Now... I think Sonny also passed away...Moonpie...I think a few of them still get to gether...They are all old as dirt I would imagine...

Coronado HS '72-76 (El Paso High in 76 After I got kicked out of Coronado)