General Music Chat

We all have had our conflicts with people in projects. In may have been from the environment, or the struggle for dominion of creative control. Or simply the location where we are. Perhaps there aren't any musicians that you are willing or able to work with in the area.

By any uncertain terms, the internet can provide an outlet for your creative outreach in findings those that have the same vision. Mainly because you can reach the whole world with it, if you tried.


So what is stopping people from putting away their Cabinets, and to stop spending money on repairs, or rentals, or pedals, when they can simply buy the necessary equipment to create a track with their instruments, and have them put together to create something with the people of their choice over the internet?

What do you think?

Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt.

Neanderpaul and I have collaborated several times with much success, but the main problem is once you get it done, what do you do with it? Bands need to be in roughly the same geographical area or they can't do shows.

I have done a few internet projects but cyber music relationships are often exponentially more flaky than local face to face music relationships. I also feed off energy in the room to create my best stuff. I guess I am a live player at heart.

That is one alternative. However, most of us prefer to jam with other musicians since playing "Live" creates a variable that will cause music to twist and turn with the spontaneous input from others. In other words, the music becomes alive and choses a path of its own to some degree. Since spontaneity is required, the results are seldom the same as cropped and edited forms of playing, as on a DAW. You just don't get that on a DAW. It may even sound better, but it just isn't the same. Sometimes the things you aren't prepared for end up sounding better than what you had in mind. Colabs are good, but you still miss the spontaneous interaction.

But I do agree that if you find a musician with skills that you really appreciate, an on line collaboration could be a blast. However a good many musicians on line are tied up trying to do their own material. I seldom get mine recorded.

Never mind. I mistakenly thought I had something to say.

You said plenty Slack. The sum of the parts is always greater than the parts, etc.

I'm strictly old school. I want the 80's and 90's back, now.

Yeah, I can see what you are saying. Playing live always has an err of spontaneity.

I guess I have yet to create those "songs" that will be my imprint. Of course, I have come really damn close. Making an album online will allow plenty of time with no pressure.


I hope I can succeed.

Did you see my post in that other thread to you?

In any case, good luck.

I said 'no' to an internet album last year. It was a promising piece of work and I think it's mostly complete now - based on Kipling's 'If' with a sort classical, film score, / prog feel to it.

He has some of it up now, http://www.allthingsif.org/ He ultimately found musicians who pulled off the music working long distance.

Problem was, I had nobody to actually play with. It was long distance love wtih computer interfaces. Didn't work for me in that instance but I suppose it could in others. Doesn't sound like much fun though.

Talbot

I would think the time lag between passing the tracks back and forth would cause a complete lack of intrest after a few days. The constant waiting for this to happen or that to happen would drive me "more" crazy.

Collaboration over the internet with artists around the world sounds like a winner to me, and the way of the future. It will be just another skill to learn requiring advanced DAW techniques and flexible social skills. From my vantage point, "live" performances are on the decline, just like snail mail is diminishing. So I say, more power to those on the edge, who learn how to pull off internet collaboration. It will require a change in thinking. Think of the internet as Thee Ultimate Venue, and not the live appearance. I'll bet that the young will pioneer how to effectively collaborate within cyberspace, while old dogs grumble about good ole days when they performed at local taverns on wooden stages. I recommend that musicians watch the first MATRIX movie again, then plug into their internet MATRIX, and fight the good fight there, in cyberspace, just don't forget your software upgrades.

Yours Truly,
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