General Music Chat

Thanks John, don't sell yourself short I don't consider you a one trick pony, I think you rock!

I don't expect to be all things to all people. I figured out my place in the grand design a long time ago and I don't feel compelled to prove anything to anyone anymore. I feel very lucky to still be playing, and I feel very lucky to call you guys friends.

BTW if Jahva says JCP is good he's good in my book. I like to give people a hard time but it's all in good fun. Peace!

I don't hate them but they annoy me: blues guys in their 50's who can afford to buy vintage guitars and amps and make sure everyone knows about it, all the while they're just average players at best. BTW having a SRV hat does not make you play like SRV.

your volk like he is volk...

I have heard that so called punk lead guitar playing of yours..............
you might want to modify that big talk.
average player for a punk band is practically calling it Mozart.
and honey you ain't no Mozart, not even for punk.

JCP You might want to research Jimmys playing a little more, he has posted everything from prog to a bolero, hes one of the more complete guitarist Ive ever seen on this site. Not a one trick pony like I am! LOL

well, I am not a guitar biographer,
I picked over the 3 or 4 songs he had posted.
my experience is that most people put up front what they consider to be their best work.
I mean come on,
what do you want me to do?

Don't worry about it JCP. I've recorded a huge number of songs in the past 25 years and only post Farleys stuff here, and it's not always the best stuff lol. The links to other recordings are in my signature but even then I don't expect anyone to chase down links. It's all good.

P.S.

JCP61,
Those Ibanez guitars have no business being in that room, you cretin. You should be ashamed of yourself!

and why is that?
Ibanez are the best guitars made.

One of my LP Classics and a tube screamer would wake up that Marshall way more than those Ibanezs will ever do! LOL

A les paul is a very nice guitar. great piece of handiwork
but I just don't care for short scale, non tremolo guitars
but that's just me.
I bought a KOT to replace the tube screamer
but either will do.

JCP that is a nice Marshall in your pictures, man you must clean and polish that thing every day!

Would love to plug into one of those.

I sat in with some guys a few monthes ago. One of the guitar players had a nice Marshall, 50 watt JMP, I plugged my LP into his distortion pedal and I didnt want to unhook, it was nirvana.

Im a Mesa man myself, Mesa Triple into a Mesa 4x12 and a Laney 4x12, plus my smaller amp is a Mesa Subway Rocket, great little underated recording and gigging amp.

When I was in college I used a JCM 800 2x12 combo for a couple of years, Im very sad these days that I let that rig go, but I started playing Rectifiers in 91 and havent ever looked back, it seems to suit me. If I had the cheese I would love a Soldano SLO, but hey we all need stuff to dream for.

I dont know what the point of this whole thread is, if me stating on here the equipment I use has offended someone is some way, then Im sorry if it seems I brag. But I just found what works for me, consistently and Ive stuck with it, a LP and Mesa.

I will add that in my case I have used all sorts of things to play thru and when I listen back to all the crap Ive recorded it all sounds pretty similiar, I think it goes back to that JCM 800 sound that I cut my teeth on for a number of years. BUt Ive used Solid State and Tube devices, plug ins, preamps and I always seem to get to a certain tone.

JCP didnt mean to pick at you, but Ive been here a long time and have heard a bunch of stuff from a bunch of different people and Jimmy is one of my bros in tone. Hes way more versatile a player than I and probably you will ever be!

Peace Out

Keep On Rockin!

Good morning gents. Are we all still friends??? Cool.

Work got it the way yesterday so I missed out on some of this. Reading through, I have a few observations.

JCP... You thought that 16 yr old kid must surely be playing through some $$$$ signature Strat and high end rack effects in order to get such great tone. Nope... A stock USA Strat with a Red Rooster pedal into a 50w Laney head. Quality gear but certainly not boutique or expensive. The tone is in her fingers. The info can be found on some of her other recordings. She has been playing guitar for 4 years.

Glen... An interesting observation on Jess Lewis playing. Whether or not you like the song surely you recognize guitar talent when you hear it. Speed, articulation, sense of time, tone, phrasing, and a sensitivity to jazz that is really quite rare. The kid has talent by the truckload. Jeff is right, Steve Vai is the king of technique but he probably could not cover this tune well. He has been playing professionally for 30 years but he could not calm down enough to get the sophisticated jazz phrasing. He is often willing to sacrifice the music for personal antics and glory. We all have our limitations.

Satch might be able to cover it well, George Benson for sure, Joe Pass, Charlie Christian, or other jazz greats. This kid has been playing for 4 years. I think only a few players on this forum have the fingers and hubris to cover that song well enough to give that 16 yr old girl a run for it. I am pretty certain I don't. She can also cover Vai, Satch, Malmsteen, Benson, Wes Montgomery, etc. If you think I am full of BS, thats ok. Give it a try and post your own youtube cover of that song. We look forward to your efforts.

The point of all this? Yes it's good to have nice gear but tone and talent are in the fingers, not the gear.

If Jahva says JCP is good thats good enough for me!
JCP what I meant in my rant yesterday is that you came across as a 21 year old that has awesome gear schooling us all on sound and playing! Now I have been known to be a little assuming and paranoid though I don't know why LOL! My point is usually folks that come on here talking like that can't back it up! Apparently you can! So once again I am man enough to admit when I am wrong! Post some music so we can hear you! We are alway's eager to hear a good guitar player kick some butt!

Good morning gents. Are we all still friends??? Cool.

Work got it the way yesterday so I missed out on some of this. Reading through, I have a few observations.

JCP... You thought that 16 yr old kid must surely be playing through some $$$$ signature Strat and high end rack effects in order to get such great tone. Nope... A stock USA Strat with a Red Rooster pedal into a 50w Laney head. Quality gear but certainly not boutique or expensive. The tone is in her fingers. The info can be found on some of her other recordings. She has been playing guitar for 4 years.

Glen... An interesting observation on Jess Lewis playing. Whether or not you like the song surely you recognize guitar talent when you hear it. Speed, articulation, sense of time, tone, phrasing, and a sensitivity to jazz that is really quite rare. The kid has talent by the truckload. Jeff is right, Steve Vai is the king of technique but he probably could not cover this tune well. He has been playing professionally for 30 years but he could not calm down enough to get the sophisticated jazz phrasing. He is often willing to sacrifice the music for personal antics and glory. We all have our limitations.

Satch might be able to cover it well, George Benson for sure, Joe Pass, Charlie Christian, or other jazz greats. This kid has been playing for 4 years. I think only a few players on this forum have the fingers and hubris to cover that song well enough to give that 16 yr old girl a run for it. I am pretty certain I don't. She can also cover Vai, Satch, Malmsteen, Benson, Wes Montgomery, etc. If you think I am full of BS, thats ok. Give it a try and post your own youtube cover of that song. We look forward to your efforts.

The point of all this? Yes it's good to have nice gear but tone and talent are in the fingers, not the gear.

if you believe that I got a bridge to sell you.....

If Jahva says JCP is good thats good enough for me!
JCP what I meant in my rant yesterday is that you came across as a 21 year old that has awesome gear schooling us all on sound and playing! Now I have been known to be a little assuming and paranoid though I don't know why LOL! My point is usually folks that come on here talking like that can't back it up! Apparently you can! So once again I am man enough to admit when I am wrong! Post some music so we can hear you! We are alway's eager to hear a good guitar player kick some butt!

I will post something as promptly as I can

though I'm not sure how I can prove I'm not a gear snob with a song.
I'm not really sure I want to prove I'm not a gear snob
I'm pretty sure I am a gear snob actually.

Most of the music is in the musician's head and is translated by his fingers and hands and feet through his instrument. Good gear makes his job easier but certainly does not fix a poor musician. I would rather hear a good musician using crappy gear than an average musician with top of the line gear.

I am a gear snob! LOL i love neat amps and guitars, doesnt change how I sound thou!

So what!

Ive accumulated my gear since I was 12 years old, and Im 49! Ive played on some of the shitties equipment known to man, and my tone is still f**k up! LOL

Good morning gents. Are we all still friends??? Cool.

Work got it the way yesterday so I missed out on some of this. Reading through, I have a few observations.

JCP... You thought that 16 yr old kid must surely be playing through some $$$$ signature Strat and high end rack effects in order to get such great tone. Nope... A stock USA Strat with a Red Rooster pedal into a 50w Laney head. Quality gear but certainly not boutique or expensive. The tone is in her fingers. The info can be found on some of her other recordings. She has been playing guitar for 4 years.

Glen... An interesting observation on Jess Lewis playing. Whether or not you like the song surely you recognize guitar talent when you hear it. Speed, articulation, sense of time, tone, phrasing, and a sensitivity to jazz that is really quite rare. The kid has talent by the truckload. Jeff is right, Steve Vai is the king of technique but he probably could not cover this tune well. He has been playing professionally for 30 years but he could not calm down enough to get the sophisticated jazz phrasing. He is often willing to sacrifice the music for personal antics and glory. We all have our limitations.

Satch might be able to cover it well, George Benson for sure, Joe Pass, Charlie Christian, or other jazz greats. This kid has been playing for 4 years. I think only a few players on this forum have the fingers and hubris to cover that song well enough to give that 16 yr old girl a run for it. I am pretty certain I don't. She can also cover Vai, Satch, Malmsteen, Benson, Wes Montgomery, etc. If you think I am full of BS, thats ok. Give it a try and post your own youtube cover of that song. We look forward to your efforts.

The point of all this? Yes it's good to have nice gear but tone and talent are in the fingers, not the gear.

if you believe that I got a bridge to sell you.....

Sorry JCP but you are far too vague. What do you mean exactly.

Most of the music is in the musician's head and is translated by his fingers and hands and feet through his instrument. Good gear makes his job easier but certainly does not fix a poor musician. I would rather hear a good musician using crappy gear than an average musician with top of the line gear.

what is a poor musician?

Johnny Rotten? would you call Johnny Rotten a poor musician?

Sid Vicious? would you call Sid Vicious a poor musician?

how about the Ramones?
I could fill a stadium with people who really be live they weren't musicians at all.

how about reading music?
would say a musician who can't read music a musician?
should you buy a book by someone who can't read?

I remember when punk came out.
the kids in those days said.
practice and technical prowess was hypocrisy and their music was a rejection of all those things.
if you were practiced you were a fake and a poser and a sell out.
that was their art, that was the way it was presented.
That is punk.

this is most of what jack white proposes now, thought you could make the case that jack white is very good and he just says those things and performs that way for attention he couldn't get any other way.

I never saw anyone with balls enough to get on a stage in front of people, who was a poor musician.

I understand fully the reaction of the audience.
I reject utterly the comments of the critic.
an art critic is a person who knows what he himself cannot accomplish.
and makes it a standard for all others.

If Jahva says JCP is good thats good enough for me!
JCP what I meant in my rant yesterday is that you came across as a 21 year old that has awesome gear schooling us all on sound and playing! Now I have been known to be a little assuming and paranoid though I don't know why LOL! My point is usually folks that come on here talking like that can't back it up! Apparently you can! So once again I am man enough to admit when I am wrong! Post some music so we can hear you! We are alway's eager to hear a good guitar player kick some butt!

I will post something as promptly as I can

though I'm not sure how I can prove I'm not a gear snob with a song.
I'm not really sure I want to prove I'm not a gear snob
I'm pretty sure I am a gear snob actually.

Not asking you to prove anything. Just want to hear some good music!

Most of the music is in the musician's head and is translated by his fingers and hands and feet through his instrument. Good gear makes his job easier but certainly does not fix a poor musician. I would rather hear a good musician using crappy gear than an average musician with top of the line gear.

what is a poor musician?

Johnny Rotten? would you call Johnny Rotten a poor musician?

Sid Vicious? would you call Sid Vicious a poor musician?

how about the Ramones?
I could fill a stadium with people who really be live they weren't musicians at all.

how about reading music?
would say a musician who can't read music a musician?
should you buy a book by someone who can't read?

I remember when punk came out.
the kids in those days said.
practice and technical prowess was hypocrisy and their music was a rejection of all those things.
if you were practiced you were a fake and a poser and a sell out.
that was their art, that was the way it was presented.
That is punk.

this is most of what jack white proposes now, thought you could make the case that jack white is very good and he just says those things and performs that way for attention he couldn't get any other way.

I never saw anyone with balls enough to get on a stage in front of people, who was a poor musician.

I understand fully the reaction of the audience.
I reject utterly the comments of the critic.
an art critic is a person who knows what he himself cannot accomplish.
and makes it a standard for all others.

A good musician is, quite simply, someone who makes music that others want to hear. It has nothing to do with schooling, hours practiced, type of gear, critical acclaim, genre or anything else, although good musicians often have these things in common. A poor musician is simply (again) someone who's music is not sought after. Hardly anyone, other than other musicians, cares about your gear; if it doesn't make sounds they enjoy it's crap.