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#161559 by crunchysoundbite
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:09 pm
It should have been titled Theory of Mutation. That alone shows how wrong evolution could be possible. Ever seen a winged snake? I have proven on this topic that Pigs are smarter than some people, but I don't believe they have the genetic code of Pigs. Just mutilated brains.
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#161560 by AirViking
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:10 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Mr.Viking, here's a link for you, among hundreds.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... race-exist


Read that article, it didn't say anything. Race isn't determined by color.
"Race" is a set pattern of genetic appearances.
That article was nonsense and fails to met biological and medical definitions of race, which is a very real thing.

Use this google search:
https://www.google.com/#pq=is+race+real ... 80&bih=595

And you find nothing but opinions, college papers, letter to the editors, and fringe science.

Sorry, but DNA is very precise. If it wasn't we wouldn't be able to Genetically modify animals and plants, and it wouldn't be used to convict if it was too inaccurate.

#161563 by jimmydanger
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:13 pm
Mr.Viking, we share 98% of the chimpanzee's genome, which make it our closest living relative. But this does not imply that we evolved from chimps, it simply means that we shared an ancestor that went extinct long ago. One thing that all life shares is the DNA molecule, which is the basis for all life.

Mr. JCP, I never said we shouldn't discuss any subject, I merely said that the question of whether or not God exists is most likely unknowable and therefore a waste of time. It's an interesting subject and fun to pontificate but in the end it's only personal opinion. Believe whatever you want, but it really makes no difference in the end.

#161565 by gbheil
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:17 pm
It not only makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE END Jimmy.
It is the only thing that will matter in the end.
That is why I will continue to pray daily for myself and all humanity.

#161570 by jimmydanger
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:28 pm
I'm happy for your belief George. I think that we should believe whatever we choose to in this life as long as it harms no one else. But that's where it gets sticky. People become so passionate about their beliefs that people do get hurt. If religion could be simply personal belief I would be all for it, but when it gets organized it gets ugly.

#161573 by gbheil
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:36 pm
:lol:

How right you are.

Organization seems to do not but compound individual human weaknesses no matter the objective.

It is the " Tower of Babel " effect I suppose.

#161574 by crunchysoundbite
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:38 pm
jimmydanger wrote:I'm happy for your belief George. I think that we should believe whatever we choose to in this life as long as it harms no one else. But that's where it gets sticky. People become so passionate about their beliefs that people do get hurt. If religion could be simply personal belief I would be all for it, but when it gets organized it gets ugly.
Ugly is God being mentioned and therefore attacked. Read page one.

#161587 by gbheil
Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:12 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:I'm happy for your belief George. I think that we should believe whatever we choose to in this life as long as it harms no one else. But that's where it gets sticky. People become so passionate about their beliefs that people do get hurt. If religion could be simply personal belief I would be all for it, but when it gets organized it gets ugly.
Ugly is God being mentioned and therefore attacked. Read page one.



It is as it was written to be, so it bothers me not.
I do, as I do, as I was instructed, and I expect not in return.
This is the way of it.
So be it.

#161594 by Etu Malku
Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:17 pm
jimmydanger wrote:May I interject that there is no such thing as "races" scientifically speaking, especially when discussing animals other than humans. There are only species of animals, which strictly speaking means a type of animal that cannot breed with any other. All humans can interbreed, therefore there is only one species of humans. The differences within our species such as skin color, facial and hair characteristics and social practices are what we call "races".

Arguing about religion is one of the most wasteful, nonproductive and even destructive things humans practice. Spiritual beliefs should be a very personal thing that should not be imposed on anyone else, even your own children. If you ask me what I believe I will tell you, but I'm not the least interested in your beliefs, and when people try to profess that they know the truth and must hit you over the head with it I just laugh. Intelligence is a trait that some humans possess, but certainly not all.
I could not have said it any better!

#161595 by Etu Malku
Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:22 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:It should have been titled Theory of Mutation. That alone shows how wrong evolution could be possible. Ever seen a winged snake? I have proven on this topic that Pigs are smarter than some people, but I don't believe they have the genetic code of Pigs. Just mutilated brains.
Ever see a talking snake? :twisted:
I have yet to see any animal smarter than a healthy normal human being.

#161596 by Etu Malku
Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:25 pm
sanshouheil wrote:It not only makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE END Jimmy.
It is the only thing that will matter in the end.
That is why I will continue to pray daily for myself and all humanity.
More Fire & Brimstone? Fear and Guilt? You'd think in 2012 Christians would have devised better psychological weapons, but they haven't.

#161599 by JCP61
Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:11 pm
it was always a curiosity to me
that you still find frightened people in the untied states who live out their whole lives believing that "THE CHRISTIANS ARE WATCHING THEM" :shock:

#161607 by PaperDog
Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:37 pm
Etu Malku wrote:
Jung: “We are not sinful, shameful human creatures who have to somehow earn Spirituality. We are Spiritual Beings having a human experience."


The shadow is an archetypal form that serves as the focus for material that has been repressed from consciousness its contents include those tendencies desires and memories that are rejected by the individual as incompatible with the persona and contrary to social standards and ideals.

The shadow contains all the negative tendencies the individual wishes to deny, including our animal instincts, as well as undeveloped positive and negative qualities.

Images of evil, the devil and the concept of original sin are all aspects of the shadow archetype.



Jung is a very outdated theorist. He was a side-man to Freud (Who is also outdated) . He has even less credence for me than any spiritual system of faith that I might hold.

I don't think Jung ever experienced real evil. In fact , I have to believe he was quite sheltered and scarcely experienced any real life. He was strictly 'academic' and untried . I am certain that if he had ever witnessed real evil, (I'm talking serious atrocity, so 'inhumane and perverse', that the only immediate reaction was to vomit , followed by months of unsettling nightmares, self-questioning), his entire body of work on shadows , Archetypes and persona would have taken a different direction.

#161608 by PaperDog
Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:11 pm
Etu Malku wrote:
sanshouheil wrote:It not only makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE END Jimmy.
It is the only thing that will matter in the end.
That is why I will continue to pray daily for myself and all humanity.
More Fire & Brimstone? Fear and Guilt? You'd think in 2012 Christians would have devised better psychological weapons, but they haven't.


ETU, I am a Christian, and I do not use Christianity as a 'weapon". I have stated before that such people who do this are mis representing the real faith and dogma of Christ (who is about love).

Since you mentioned it... Indeed it is 2012... I look around me... and I see where all of your intellect and theory (which really paints the picture of a mechanized existence as opposed to a spiritual one) has contributed absolutely nothing to make this world a better place.
The world sucked ten thousand years ago...and would equally suck today , but for one minor difference... Many of us decided that mechanized existence was getting humanity nowhere.

Us Christians, in our delusional fever and hope for beauty, love, heightened spiritual existence, have all tried at least to rally some semblance of expression (faulty as it may be) to bring resources together to help our fellow human brothers and sisters.
On our worst day, even as the biggest pontificators in our churches spin their biggest whoppers... even then...THEY also contribute to the delusional 'cause' of love by throwing their resources into that big cauldron of Christian practices, for the benefit of all brothers and sisters...

Now tell us again...Its 2012...In 10 thousand years...What exactly have the friendly folks of your 'church' (whatever that may be) done to express and extend of human kindness to the benefit of all brothers and sisters?

(ANd please dont insult us by throwing in the old argument about how Christians bring about wars, yadda yadda yadda .. For every instance you throw at me, I can probably throw one that the pagans caused, etc., ... :P

#161609 by gbheil
Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:53 pm
JCP61 wrote:it was always a curiosity to me
that you still find frightened people in the untied states who live out their whole lives believing that "THE CHRISTIANS ARE WATCHING THEM" :shock:


Ah but we are doncha know :lol:

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