General Music Chat

You need to learn from past masters, but
even they don't play the solo (or rhythm)
exactly the same every time. By learning
the way it was originally done you get the
feel and Sean's gotta a little of the feel going
on, I can hear Badge in there somewhere.
I think he's a very good guitar player.

"The trick is knowing when and where to
stretch out" Well put, I agree.

For Crossroads Lynryd Skynyrd set a new bar
for how it should be played. They copy'd
Clapton's feel and then did it better, I think
that's where you should go with any song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSptNx1 ... re=related

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If I was a betting man I would bet Clapton tuned his guitar at about 1:08.
It was sour before that, and sweet after. At 1:08 - 1:09 you can hear him hit something he could have played and quickly tuned to.
Sean, Jimmy, Paper dog tell me if you hear at least the before and after.

C'mon Cap and Johhny 7. Humor me here.

NP,
I am at work now and cannot listen to it. I will check it when I get home.

Yep, flat G string and he caught it. Happens to me...

So you are suggesting that Hendrix blew it by wanking All Along The Watchtower, SRV choked Voodoo Chile, Cream duffed Crossroads, EVH mauled Pretty Woman?

Where did I suggest that? English comprehension anyone?

You gotta put performances in context man. You're talking about legendary artists covering legendary tunes. Rules go out the window. SRV earned the right to play any cover the way he wants. Because anyone who went to see SRV wasn't going to see SRV cover something note-for-note, they were going to see SRV man! That's totally different than someone going to a bar for a night to watch you or me play.

Context.

Anyone coming to watch MY band play is coming to hear the songs, not necessarily to hear me in particular. I'm not famous; my band is just hard-working musicians. Local people hanging out at a bar who have a love for music just want to hear us play the songs as good as we can. When we nail something note-for-note they appreciate it. It's not the same as SRV stepping up and whipping out his own version of a tune, ya know?

It's all about context man. In one context a note-for-note solo isn't what people want to see. In another, it is.

If I go see a local cover band play tunes and they aren't making an effort to play something note-for-note then I see that as lazy; I see that as they don't care about their crowd or the music or putting in the effort to impress. I don't see that as a great artist embellishing a classic song or "putting their own twist on it". Ya know? I just see it as local guys being lazy.

I don't have the luxury of being as good or famous as SRV. I have to prove myself every gig. The best way to do that is playing stuff as close to note-for-note as possible.

So, I guess, the way I'd put this is: when you're unknown, you owe it to the source material and the fans of that material to play it as close to note-for-note as possible.

When you are an established, well-known artist, then you can put "your own twist" on things, because then people are coming to see YOU and not just hear THE SONGS.

Context. It's all about context and knowing where YOU fit into the equation.

So you are suggesting that Hendrix blew it by wanking All Along The Watchtower, SRV choked Voodoo Chile, Cream duffed Crossroads, EVH mauled Pretty Woman?

Where did I suggest that? English comprehension anyone?

You gotta put performances in context man. You're talking about legendary artists covering legendary tunes. Rules go out the window. SRV earned the right to play any cover the way he wants. Because anyone who went to see SRV wasn't going to see SRV cover something note-for-note, they were going to see SRV man! That's totally different than someone going to a bar for a night to watch you or me play.

Context.

Anyone coming to watch MY band play is coming to hear the songs, not necessarily to hear me in particular. I'm not famous; my band is just hard-working musicians. Local people hanging out at a bar who have a love for music just want to hear us play the songs as good as we can. When we nail something note-for-note they appreciate it. It's not the same as SRV stepping up and whipping out his own version of a tune, ya know?

It's all about context man. In one context a note-for-note solo isn't what people want to see. In another, it is.

If I go see a local cover band play tunes and they aren't making an effort to play something note-for-note then I see that as lazy; I see that as they don't care about their crowd or the music or putting in the effort to impress. I don't see that as a great artist embellishing a classic song or "putting their own twist on it". Ya know? I just see it as local guys being lazy.

I don't have the luxury of being as good or famous as SRV. I have to prove myself every gig. The best way to do that is playing stuff as close to note-for-note as possible.

So, I guess, the way I'd put this is: when you're unknown, you owe it to the source material and the fans of that material to play it as close to note-for-note as possible.

When you are an established, well-known artist, then you can put "your own twist" on things, because then people are coming to see YOU and not just hear THE SONGS.

Context. It's all about context and knowing where YOU fit into the equation.

Yep, I guess we totally disagree on this. I believe our only limitations are the ones we put on ourselves. Carry on and keep on rockin' brother.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSptNx1 ... re=related

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If I was a betting man I would bet Clapton tuned his guitar at about 1:08.
It was sour before that, and sweet after. At 1:08 - 1:09 you can hear him hit something he could have played and quickly tuned to.
Sean, Jimmy, Paper dog tell me if you hear at least the before and after.

Neanderpaul...yeah! I do hear it now... In fact, That's a classic "Wait till I get to the open chord in the song" tactic LOL But you are right...that little arpeggio was a smidgen off before and then sounded better after...
Good Call

Out of tune strings are driving me crazy. My studio is heated by an oil heater but can get cold. That short version is that the fluctuating temperatures are causing my strings grief.

Last summer the AC kept it pretty steady and the problem was minor.

Now I usually tune up twice - once and then I bend the strings in various registers and retune.

Talbot

Out of tune strings are driving me crazy. My studio is heated by an oil heater but can get cold. That short version is that the fluctuating temperatures are causing my strings grief.

Last summer the AC kept it pretty steady and the problem was minor.

Now I usually tune up twice - once and then I bend the strings in various registers and retune.

Talbot

This is why we need to invent a guitar with its own heater and ac

Thanks Guys!, I love soloing to that song, fun!!!!!

Out of tune strings are driving me crazy. My studio is heated by an oil heater but can get cold. That short version is that the fluctuating temperatures are causing my strings grief.

Last summer the AC kept it pretty steady and the problem was minor.

Now I usually tune up twice - once and then I bend the strings in various registers and retune.

Talbot

I know the drill. Put said out of tuners in another room for a coupla' hours. Use a different baby, if ya got it. It will come back, espescialy if you can afford to de-commission it for a coupla' days. She'll be sweet in your hands.

I'll try that Crunch. I've been in the mood to play my other guitar (Tele) anyhow. I'll let you know if it works.

thanks
Talbot