General Music Chat

Axel is at least one of the 10 best singers
of all time.

. Whether Axel is a great singer or not is a matter of personal taste. And he certanly wasn't "posing" as a singer either. No band as successful as G & R gets there with a "posing" lead singer.

Talbot, if anything, that proves you are not a poser. Let's define "poser", shall we?

I first heard the term in the 80s and it was associated with hair-farmers in the glam scene. I've always understood it to mean someone who is pretending to be something they are not (rock star).

As long as one has an honest assessment of who they are and where they're heading, they can not be a poser. It's when one starts acting like they are Guns & Roses just because they can (poorly) sing "Sweet Child O Mine" that they become posers. Posers usually look the part since that is all they have, but they can't really back it up.

There have been bands who went on to huge commercial success whom I would label as posers, too. Like Cinderella for example. They were trying to be Aerosmith and Motley Cruë at the same time. Axel Rose is posing as a singer, speaking of Guns & Roses.

But we've all seen the guitarist who is average but acts like he's Hendrix, right? We've all seen the baritone singer who thinks he's a tenor, right? We've all seen the arrogant drummer who can't keep the meter solid to save his life, right? Those are the posers.



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YOD, I see your point, but what you are defining as a poser, I would probably define as an influenced emulator.. Axel Rose wannabees are striving to captuire Axel-Roseness. To that end, if they are doing that on their own two feet, in front of a crowd, then I'd say they are not posers. On the other hand, Spicoli of "Fast Times at Ridgemont High", bragging about himself ; "Me and Mick (Jagger)" would constitute a poser.

Truthfully, You'll find a lot of Traveling Wilbury influence in my upcoming work...(and such influence typically includes my going native on the style to 'absorb and assimilate" ...so I'm inclined to come off thinking I'm just like a "Traveling Wilbury". Now the difference, is when its over, its over... My next project might have me pretending to be BB King... and so forth...

I say this and I feel justified, because quite frankly, I'm still learning how to be a real musician. Somewhere in all of that style examination, I will develop my own signature. SO I figure its all fair game... as long as its not ludicrously ridiculous... (Tho I have heard some venues really appreciate the circus acts)

Tom Petty used to make over Roy Orbison every day he got to play with him, and asked for his autograph. I don't know if that was designed to be directed at the others, but it is funny. Imagine being Eric Clapton being witness to Tom's forward.

As for anyone singing Sweet child of mine badly, maybe no one who likes guns and roses may want o change the channel. Anyone could have sang it better. I like Grunts n' Groanses with the exception of Grease axle Rose. He' has sold copyrights unbeknownst to his bandmates without giving them royalties. He's a crack head at best. Dances like a (female) pole dancer. If the rest of the band would ditch him, I would buy my first GNR recording. I feel that some one out there doing Axle's part may be doing one or two things A) Kareoki'ing Axle out or B) Emulating Axle. Save it if they're doing the later. Just one more Queer to look at. I don' t Care if you're Gay. But Being a sex you're not is being some one you are not. If that IS Axle, I don't care for that either.

I didn't know Axel was gay? I
thought he ran around with large
breasted porn stars.

As for anyone singing Sweet child of mine badly, maybe no one who likes guns and roses may want o change the channel. Anyone could have sang it better. I like Grunts n' Groanses with the exception of Grease axle Rose. He' has sold copyrights unbeknownst to his bandmates without giving them royalties. He's a crack head at best. Dances like a (female) pole dancer. If the rest of the band would ditch him, I would buy my first GNR recording. I feel that some one out there doing Axle's part may be doing one or two things A) Kareoki'ing Axle out or B) Emulating Axle. Save it if they're doing the later. Just one more Queer to look at. I don' t Care if you're Gay. But Being a sex you're not is being some one you are not. If that IS Axle, I don't care for that either.

Dude, you gotta share some of that strong sh*t you're smoking.

And he certanly wasn't "posing" as a singer either. No band as successful as G & R gets there with a "posing" lead singer.

Axl sings from the throat. He only has falsetto above mid C. His "voice" is gone after about 5 or 6 songs...in a year. My soundman, Mark Hergenrader, did a Guns-n-Roses tour and lost respect for Axl before the second show.

Lots of bands are successful posers...like Milli Vanilli, or Vanilla Ice, or all the bands who imitated Creed, or The Archies, etc....

YOD, I see your point, but what you are defining as a poser, I would probably define as an influenced emulator.. Axel Rose wannabees are striving to captuire Axel-Roseness. To that end, if they are doing that on their own two feet, in front of a crowd, then I'd say they are not posers.

the reason I used that example was because of a "Gun n Roses Tribute" poser band I saw in NYC once. It was comedy, but not on purpose.

They were all Koreans and singing with a heavy asian accent. Welcome to the Jungle was a riot!

That I'd like to see!

YOD, I see your point, but what you are defining as a poser, I would probably define as an influenced emulator.. Axel Rose wannabees are striving to captuire Axel-Roseness. To that end, if they are doing that on their own two feet, in front of a crowd, then I'd say they are not posers.

the reason I used that example was because of a "Gun n Roses Tribute" poser band I saw in NYC once. It was comedy, but not on purpose.

They were all Koreans and singing with a heavy asian accent. Welcome to the Jungle was a riot!

LOL! ... Rercom to da chungle!