General Music Chat

Dog, ya gotta understand one thing about the Capt.
This place is boring without him.
He hasn't changed any posted music as long as I've known him... Thats the Captain. (I still like the bits he's posted)

Oh well, He is as big of pain in the butt, as I am, but he's on my never ignore list.

I have a warm place to go to the bathroom, food to eat and a nice TV to watch. I just don’t need that much more, to justifying depriving even a few of the legitimate needy, of their food. I just can’t assume any moral superiority, over those who I could have easily been. I’m not religious, but what would be the Christian thing to do? Would Jesus turn away the hungry, because they were stoned?

Finding stipulations to justify depriving the needy. I have to disagree with the idea. You do the right thing, simply because it’s the right thing to do. Overhauling the system so most of the money goes where it should, like food stamps for instance, makes more sense.

When it comes to the state government of Florida I have a personal axe to grind. Honestly the folks down there have a great racket going on, perhaps they could teach the gangsters up here in Jersey a few tricks? In a state government where they are entirely blameless for any incompetence by state law, it should be a real circus.

The budget has to be predicted to assume everyone comes off clean, although corruption will see that very few will. If there is money to be made finding you guilty, then you’re guilty. Plain and simple. When the drug testing becomes mandatory, who’s Brother-in-law will be running it? Doing three test instead of one, double billing the state for work unfulfilled. Even if successful (to what end seems questionable), would anyone be delusional enough to think the state budget would decrease, or that any money saved find it’s way back into their pockets? It’s going to cost more, because you’ll have to test those who are clean as well as the users. Then pay the clean, a check on top of it. Even if the users don’t rehabilitate, you’ll have to pay to pick their corpses up off the street and bury them anyway.

With foreclosed homes in the millions and unemployment at an all time high, I’d rather be compassionate of the poor, for when we all join their ranks.

Paper just get on my ignore list and stfu.

awww Capt Scott got his feelings hurt cos somebody here, who ain't a sheep stepped up to challenge his dribble. The funniest part... is it wasn't a challenge... I actually agreed with some of what you had said and merely made light of it. But you are such a f**k-ing moron, you didn't catch that part.

Been reading your dribble now for too long..

1) You never have anything nice to say
2) You never have anything intelligent to say
3) You are proof that America had a problem with lead poisoning,
4) You can't write music worth a sh*t ...(Why are you even on this site, seriously)?

5) Maybe folks where yo live suck your dick all the time.. Me I'd probably kick your fat ass if I had be next to you. So, go f**k your self, you fat piece of uselss dope -smoking rehab piece of sh*t.!! Feel free to put me on YOUR ignore list. Its not like you actually count.

Uh oh...
Paper, don't poke the grizzly.

1) Mostly true, but that's part of the entertainment.
2) Not true.
4) Uncalled for.

Again with the violence threating on the forum... Oy Vey.

Since he cage fights for fun, I would imagine that you would be the one getting the ass kicking.
You're just not used to his style.

Hi Gt.. No I am not making threats... Just stating my form of sentiment under a hypothetical situation. ...
As for the cage fighting, Yeah, probably kick my ass...But he would not walk out of there un-scathed...

But that there is the thing, He strikes me a bully and I still stand firm on # 4) ... I hate bullies. They are evil, useless ..and believe me... The world would be a much better place if they left and died. Having said that, there is nothing about that guy that I find entertaining. So I have placed him on ignore and I'll just let it go....

This has nothing to do with NOT helping the poor, this is about WHERE and HOW the money is being used.

However, if they're going to test them and they test positive, what then? If these people have kids and they're denying them aid then they need to be prepared as to what they're gonna do then - forced rehab or taking the kids?

But if I have to do a drug test to get a job, then oh well, but they have to be prepared to deal with the consequences.

Chaeya

LOL Wow did I just kick your sack or you feel maybe like I walked on them?

I have to giggle a little.. "Geezer" take an Asprin and relax before you blow something..

PS: Mind Over matter, keep reminding yourself it's only the internet.

In with the good air, out with the GTZip .. LOL

(Take it with a grain of salt, jr else we'll be visiting you in the hospital after your triple bypass.)

I feel like Chaeya, if I have to take a drug test to remain eligible for employment, I like the idea of testing EVERYONE else.

(if you don't like it, piss in the cup anyway) lol (ooh what drug does that pretty color indicate)

Ppl automatically assume that, if there are drug metabolites in your system, you are buying drugs. That is often not the case.

They also assume that if they are present, that you are a regular drug user or an addict, &, therefore, not responsible enough to hold a job, or deserving enough of state help. That, too, is an unfair assumption.

Look, even when one is unemployed, he may have well-meaning friends who are just trying to brighten his day with a quick buzz. You gonna deprive him of much-needed help, or a job, for that?

We, as a society, have become so very judgemental, so very eager to punish all that we perceive to be wrong, that we too often toss out the baby with the bath water.

In closing, it's none of your business, nor is it any of the gov't's, what a person does in his free time. A user is not automtically an abuser. Climb down off the high horses, & offer help where & when it's needed, & quit looking for excuses to deny it. It's just the right thing to do.

I dont ussually get into these types of debates but I feel strongely on this,

I think in order to get any sort of welfare, be it a check or foodstamps, that they should be drug tested.

In my business we have to have a drug tested program in place due to haz mat, like Glen said. Whe should I a private individual that pays taxes, pays people to work for me, have to support a program that supports people that have the opportunity to use my money to buy drugs.

I will go one step further and this will piss some folks off, but I would rather pay these slut whores to not have kids instead of promoting having kids to get a check, give them less the more they have and some of this sh*t will cut out, or even go one step further to get a check they have to get fixed.

just my 2 cents


PS on the drug testing side of things I think any member of congress should have to pee in the cup also

Phil, what you fail to understand is that even just under the laws of the DOT, with out a drug testing program in place,,, They can come in and just SHUT ME DOWN. Forget about failing a test. That becomes a whole other can of worms under labor laws. Responsibility to rehabilitate as an employer, retesting ,oh God the rules go on and on. Don't talk to me about personal freedoms, on personal time, Tell our government.

I would love to able to abdicate all responsibility,and just get free money, and PARTY!!!!

"PS on the drug testing side of things I think any member of congress should have to pee in the cup also" I like that JW. You have any idea how many job openings that would create?

Well, I must admit - it should prolly depend on the work being done. However, drug metabolytes in the urine does NOT mean that anyone is affected in any way at the moment. If they would test to see if you are PRESENTLY BEING AFFECTED, that would be one thing, but the system is designed to ruin you for doing things on your own time. That, imho, should NEVER be allowed.

The fact that someone got high last week, after work, should have NO affect on their job or their ability to get necessary funds.

That is all.

Phil, you know I'm about freedom and such, but they're looking for illegal drugs. If you got some other drugs in your system and you can produce a prescription for them, no one's hassling them about that.

But sorry, I've seen too many kids suffering abuse because they're parents are smoking crack, meth, coke, etc., and these people aren't "recreational" users. If you have a family and you're doing coke and meth, you're not being responsible, and at some point you're neglecting your children. And these drugs aren't cheap, where's the money coming from?

If they test them and find it, then perhaps they can get them some help.

As far as marijuana, I think it should be legal, but if you're asking for the government's money then you're not really in a position to tell them what they can and can't do when it comes to drugs.

If you're out there doing drugs, then you hide it like everyone else. You start a company or get a real job so you can do whatever the heck you want.

It has nothing to do with being judgmental. I don't care if someone wants to do drugs, but when I see so many children being abused because of their careless drug addicts parents, then I really don't care. They get what they get.

Chaeya