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#149669 by PaperDog
Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:21 am
KLUGMO wrote:You sure seem to know a lot about all these people(personal thoughts, wants and motives) from a thousand miles away on the Mexican border.
People reading what you write might think you are a know it all.[/b]


You do see the irony in your own statement, dont you? :shock:

#149754 by april88
Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:14 am
I understand that there was no factual evidence, but Casey did not report her child missing for a month, was partying during that month with smiles all over, the diary, everything else that was already mentioned, and she gets a tattoo celebrating life when her daughter is supposedly missing? Whether she murdered her daughter or covered up her daughter's accidental death, she is guilty of something that should have gave her more than 4 years in prison. In court, she does not show any emotion or even cry when they talk about her daughter's death. She pretend cries when they read the verdict. Seriously? And she's getting out in a week and claims she wants another child :shock:

#149759 by KLUGMO
Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:04 am
It is not against the Law to be a dastardly, morally corrupt, emotionless,
heartless, sychotic, shitty mother. When you are older you will have
probably met a few others with some of these qualities. She happens to have
all of them and is displayed all over the TV. There are and have been much worse humans
than her out there that havn't reached the public eye. The world we live in
is not pretty and wholesome and loving. Around any corner anywhere can
be the face of evil stareing back at you.

If the same energy that citizens put into protesting this case nation wide
were put into changing the Laws and Justice sytem and Correctional system.
Also electing officials that truly have our best interests in mind. Our
Country would be a better place to live. As it is, you get what you will
tollerate. Hell, most of this Country doesn't even vote.

We generally are our own worst enemies.[/b]

#149764 by PaperDog
Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:38 pm
KLUGMO wrote:It is not against the Law to be a dastardly, morally corrupt, emotionless,
heartless, sychotic, shitty mother. When you are older you will have
probably met a few others with some of these qualities. She happens to have
all of them and is displayed all over the TV. There are and have been much worse humans
than her out there that havn't reached the public eye. The world we live in
is not pretty and wholesome and loving. Around any corner anywhere can
be the face of evil stareing back at you.

If the same energy that citizens put into protesting this case nation wide
were put into changing the Laws and Justice sytem and Correctional system.
Also electing officials that truly have our best interests in mind. Our
Country would be a better place to live. As it is, you get what you will
tollerate. Hell, most of this Country doesn't even vote.

We generally are our own worst enemies.[/b]


I agree with every stitch of what you just said here. Now there the matter of voting... Its been my observation that a vote implies that I want something from the government. If I have To "vote" for fundamentally wholesome behaviors in my government, I will say That My government probably needs its ass kicked severely. I look around..and I see that's already happening.

#149766 by gbheil
Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:50 pm
I have to wonder how many children have been murdered since ... and why we continue to make a celebrity of this monster.
Irrelevant of guilt. The woman has evil in her eyes and is totally remorseless of her daughters murder.

Good cell mate for Charlie Manson I think.

#149777 by KLUGMO
Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:52 pm
A vote does not mean you want something from your government.
It means you have studied the candidates and the one you vote for
represents similar ideas to issues you are concerned about.

The vote is our ultimate power. One day hopefully the citizens will learn to use it to their advantage and not as sheep within this 2party system.

We need our asses kicked before we get the nuts to kick government ass.

#149782 by gbheil
Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:00 pm
KLUGMO wrote:A vote does not mean you want something from your government.
It means you have studied the candidates and the one you vote for
represents similar ideas to issues you are concerned about.

The vote is our ultimate power. One day hopefully the citizens will learn to use it to their advantage and not as sheep within this 2party system.

We need our asses kicked before we get the nuts to kick government ass.


In this realm, the sword is the ultimate power.
Our vote don't mean sh*t without it.
Why do you think the the universal disarmament of the world populace is the primary goal of the globalist elite whom now run this country and most of the world ?

For your " safety " and for the " children " or course.

#149793 by PaperDog
Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:12 pm
KLUGMO wrote:A vote does not mean you want something from your government.
It means you have studied the candidates and the one you vote for
represents similar ideas to issues you are concerned about.

The vote is our ultimate power. One day hopefully the citizens will learn to use it to their advantage and not as sheep within this 2party system.

We need our asses kicked before we get the nuts to kick government ass.


I have to agree with Sans... In America, have you noticed that you absolutely need access to wealth in order to run for govt public office. It was not originally intended for the elites to rule the country. Jefferson had "Farmer John to stand his watch" in mind. Farmer John did not have access to wealth like the elitests do today.

If you 'vote" and you select one over another cause he represents "your interests" . Well...When was the last time that actually worked out for ya? ;)

#149800 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:47 am
I have watched with amusement how this has gone from a truly sad, despicable story, to the opening of a political post. I'm not guilty this time!
What is sad, is this commentary on the society we have become. Despicable because our society pushed this young unmarried woman to abandon what should be most precious.
Despicable because the prosecutor immediately seeks an eye for an eye. Despicable because all the societal safety nets didn't work. Despicable because all I can see is mans devotion to himself.

I'm not going to preach. It is not my place to judge this one case. Far more evil is just around the corner, preliminary displays have already occurred , and I will be ready to stand strong against the selfish wrong.

I have a 22 year old daughter,,, As a parent I must protect ,,,,, Her name is Kaeleigh.

#149802 by PaperDog
Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:28 am
GlenJ wrote:I have watched with amusement how this has gone from a truly sad, despicable story, to the opening of a political post. I'm not guilty this time!


The dialogue has morphed to be sure, but it all shares the common theme that ties back to the original point. There was NO JUSTICE WHATSOEVER for that little girl. I said this a gazillion times and I'll say it again. That trial was a freaking CIRCUS ACT replete with a Dog & Pony show. The dialogue morphed because we all know that what we witnessed is really just a "symptom" of a severely tragic disease in America (You phrased it as "Man's devotion to himself"). We all surely feel and hope there is some kind of truth buried beneath the pile that was presented to the world.


What is sad, is this commentary on the society we have become. Despicable because our society pushed this young unmarried woman to abandon what should be most precious.


Is it really society's fault, Glen? Ironically, each of us, with the power to choose independently from one another, somehow comprise the society. So in one aspect, it is society's fault, because Casey Anthony is an integral part of that society. On the other hand, her decision to behave as she had, outweighed all the rest of us and our say in the matter... My point being, she purposely bailed and deviated from society, rather than got pushed by society. Therein lies the difference and is the root illustration of how personal accountability emerges and how ethical judges would uphold it.


Despicable because the prosecutor immediately seeks an eye for an eye. Despicable because all the societal safety nets didn't work. Despicable because all I can see is mans devotion to himself.


The prosecutor could have cared less whether Casey was really guilty or not. He acted on the presumption that she was guilty. But I believe his real motivation was to heighten his status and prestige from a highly exposed case. He was banking on shutting her down without much of a fight. (Instead of focusing on collecting the necessary, appropriate proof.) I tell ya , if I had been on that jury, I would have derailed it and called it 'hung" , which would have meant a re-trial. And as such, I would have filed a grievance and cited contempt against both Defense and Prosecutor. Defense for throwing in that bull sh*t story about daddy abusing her (falsely misleading the Jury to sway its decision), and the prosecutor for sending the court on a wild goose chase with those idiot expert witness testimonies about the odors, and definition of decay. Thus We saw mans devotion to himself... resulting in NO JUSTICE for that poor baby girl...




I'm not going to preach. It is not my place to judge this one case. Far more evil is just around the corner, preliminary displays have already occurred , and I will be ready to stand strong against the selfish wrong.

I have a 22 year old daughter,,, As a parent I must protect ,,,,, Her name is Kaeleigh.


It IS your place to judge this case... The world is full of frightened souls, who would rather be PC than to sh*t on somebody's shoes. Granted, its wiser if we learn to pick our battles accordingly...but at the end of the day,,, if you wanna see man's devotion to self shift into something better, you gotta bust some verbalized "Outrage against the machine". Otherwise, the audience will think the status quo is "okay" to hold on to.

Just my 2 pennies :D

#149804 by april88
Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:19 am
I understand that there is evil lurking around every corner. The topic of this wasn't "the evil world we live in" though. It was about this case. I was just agreeing that there was no justice for this little girl and that surely anyone with common sense can see that. I don't think any of us plan on buying Casey's books or movie deals or whatever. We're just stating our opinions on the matter. As for the political end of where this conversation has gone...that is just opening up a can of worms on a topic I know very little about. I just took a beginner's course on politics and it was so draining. That course barely brushed upon the basics of politics and I was confused, shocked, scared, and ashamed.

#149805 by PaperDog
Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:46 am
april88 wrote:I understand that there is evil lurking around every corner. The topic of this wasn't "the evil world we live in" though. It was about this case. I was just agreeing that there was no justice for this little girl and that surely anyone with common sense can see that. I don't think any of us plan on buying Casey's books or movie deals or whatever. We're just stating our opinions on the matter. As for the political end of where this conversation has gone...that is just opening up a can of worms on a topic I know very little about. I just took a beginner's course on politics and it was so draining. That course barely brushed upon the basics of politics and I was confused, shocked, scared, and ashamed.


Eighteen states have now addressed legislation surrounding the very argument you mentioned. (Not bad for somebody who got drained by the politics lessons ;) ) Check the link and sign up...This needs to go to ALL 50 states

http://www.change.org/petitions/create- ... KzJCWlpbPX

#149817 by gbheil
Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:20 pm
You cannot escape justice.

#149818 by gbheil
Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:23 pm
sanshouheil wrote:You cannot escape justice.



Politics is easy.

Might makes right in the earthly realm.

And the Golden Rule

He whom has the gold, makes the rules.


Simple as that.

#149827 by philbymon
Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:43 pm
Well, the jury determined that this could have been a tragic accident, or perhaps there are so many logical suspects that none of them can be pointed out for sure. Therefore, no one can be found guilty without a shadow of doubt.

As was said above - it is not illegal, nor is it necessarily an admission of guilt, to go out partying when a loved one goes missing. It certainly seems callous, & perhaps a bit suspicious to those of us who would react differently. However, those that were given all the available facts...i.e., the jury...could not say for certain that the mother killed the daughter.

Justice for the dead girl demands nothing less than certainty. It would be a horrible thing to convict the wrong person in this, or in any other case.

Even with all the wonderful scientific methods we have of "proving" guilt, this woman could not be determined to have done the deed, with any certainty. That is all we can ask of our justice system.

To those who want more laws passed, so that she could have been convicted of a crime, I would say this - how many charges should one face for any given crime?

A guy who robs a liquor store can possibly face how many charges? Robbery. Using a gun in a felony. Illegal detention. Civil rights abuses. Brandishing a weapon. Yadda yadda yadda. And don't forget - each one of these charges must be faced in a court of law, & most often paid for by you, the taxpayer.

The rather liberal abuse of law-writing is ruining, not only our legal system, but the lives & credit ratings of untold innocent ppl who must face each extra charge attached to a single act, & for what? To make sure that no guilty party escapes a judgement? How far are you willing to go?

No. Rather than cluttering up the system with ever more laws, it is far better to allow some guilty party to go free, than to ruin the lives of so many in your zeal to ruin one guilty party. This is what our forefathers intended when the system was designed.

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