General Music Chat

Anyone ever hear of a band in NJ called TOMBSTONE? (out of Frenchtown)

They asked for me by name on Craig's List and I fear it is to be yet a new debacle.

Keep ya posted. Audition is on Friday.

uhh nevermind, I know the guy and am horrified I almost went over and jammed with him.

ugghhh LOL

Oops, RTZ.

I've been TO "Tombstone" in Arizona - but don't know a band by that name.

By the way, did you know that the actual size of the OK Corral - site of the gunfight between the Earps and Clanton Gang - was only about 25 sq ft? Seriously, how could anyone miss at point blank range??

Cowboys like to drink and drinking/shooting can be difficult.

(been known to tip a few and shoot em as well)

It only stands to reason that they would be so close, it's a joke.

Kinda like people arguing over whether or not they can hit the broadside of the barn. lol

I've been TO "Tombstone" in Arizona - but don't know a band by that name.

By the way, did you know that the actual size of the OK Corral - site of the gunfight between the Earps and Clanton Gang - was only about 25 sq ft? Seriously, how could anyone miss at point blank range??

Have you ever fired a hang gun? Forget what you see on T.V. that is pure fantasy.

Trying to hit a moving target at more then 10ft with handgun without extenisive training is extremely difficult, and that is with an automatic. It is even more difficult with the revolver that was used in the old West.

The average person with no experience will readilly miss at 5ft. since the recoil of the weapon will put the follow up shots far off target if they don't know how to compensate.

As I stated, these 50 meter shots you see on T.V with one hand and all rounds landing on target are pure fanatasy.

I've been TO "Tombstone" in Arizona - but don't know a band by that name.

By the way, did you know that the actual size of the OK Corral - site of the gunfight between the Earps and Clanton Gang - was only about 25 sq ft? Seriously, how could anyone miss at point blank range??

Have you ever fired a hang gun? Forget what you see on T.V. that is pure fantasy.

Trying to hit a moving target at more then 10ft with handgun without extenisive training is extremely difficult, and that is with an automatic. It is even more difficult with the revolver that was used in the old West.

The average person with no experience will readilly miss at 5ft. since the recoil of the weapon will put the follow up shots far off target if they don't know how to compensate.

As I stated, these 50 meter shots you see on T.V with one hand and all rounds landing on target are pure fanatasy.

Yeah I was raised around guns wegman, I know what its like to fire handgun. It is damn difficult to hit anything, but sheeesh near point blank range? These guys must have all been very drunk. At that range you have to try to MISS.

That's why I asked. Those who never fired a hangun have no idea how difficult it is and they watch T.V. and think it's easy. Even at close range hitting a fast moving target is difficult. When your fighitng for you life I imagine it is even more difficult.

We must also remember that weapons of the age were no where near as advanced as what we have today.


The fight also did not take place at the O.K corral. The gunfight was fought in a vacant lot about 18 feet wide, but also in Fremont street in front of the lot. Most of the shooting was done at ranges of about 10 feet or less. The number of shots fired can only be estimated, and depends on who was actually armed. Estimates vary from 20 to 30 shots total.

Lastly the only ones not hit/killed (in the fight since Ike and Billy Claiborne ran away) was Wyatt Earp, who amazingly through out his dangerous career was never so much as grazed by a bullet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfight_a ... l#Overview

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The fight also did not take place at the O.K corral. The gunfight was fought in a vacant lot about 18 feet wide, but also in Fremont street in front of the lot. Most of the shooting was done at ranges of about 10 feet or less. The number of shots fired can only be estimated, and depends on who was actually armed. Estimates vary from 20 to 30 shots total.

You know what, Weg, that's not what the tour guide there told us at all. She said the firing was almost all done at near point blank range and the whole thing was actually over very quickly. And the Fremont street skirmish was more of a war of words and gestures, according to the guide. She said it just heightened the tension to the final act.

If you want to put the lead on the mark every time, shoot a small caliber. .38 super auto or 9mm is the best for me. Even 9mm high power is good to go.

Only problem is they won't penetrate a kevlar vest unless you doctor them a little.

I don't know about you but the older I get the more I realize that formal education is BS. I found two sources that said it never happend at the ok coral and that it was in the vacant lot and in fremont st. Your guide told you different.

Maybe it actually took place on the grassy knoll and there was 4th earp.

You never know these days. I like Wikipedia as much as the next jamoke, but I have found you have to be very careful when citing it as a source. The fact that people can post what they will to it, and edit it the same, makes it highly suspect for serious research.

I know that. That's why I verified with another source. Here's a third.


Law
Wyatt Earp
Virgil Earp (wounded)
Morgan Earp (wounded)
John Henry "Doc" Holliday (wounded)

Cowboys
Joseph Isaac "Ike" Clanton
Billy Clanton (killed)
Frank McLaury (Witnesses confirmend it was Wyatt Earp who shot and killed Frank McLaury in the opening moments of the OK Corral Shoot-Out.)
Tom McLaury (killed)
Billy "The Kid" Clairborne

The 30-second shootout left three cowboys dead and Virgil Earp and Morgan Earp badly wounded. The shootout actually took place in a vacant lot near the intersection of Third Street and Fremont Street behind the OK Corral next to C.S. Fly's Boarding House and Photo Studio. The shooting started when Billy Clanton and Frank McLaury cocked their pistols. The Earps and Doc Holliday were arrested for murder by Sheriff Behan. At the trial following the gunfight, it was determined that the Earps acted within the law.


http://www.kansasheritage.org/gunfighters/okcorral.html


And a fourth:

Gunfight near the OK Corral

The place was Tombstone, Arizona territory. The time was Wednesday afternoon, October 26, 1881 and the setting was a vacant lot in the vicinity of the stables and sheds of the O. K. Corral. But the frightened horses landed the O. K. corral as the name forever to be remembered by the showdown.

http://www.arizonagunfighters.com/okcorral.html

I guess they better get with the tourist board of Tombstone AZ then, because that's not what their tour guides are telling the visitors. Weird.