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#147744 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:03 pm
One more thing about "all caps". Take a closer look at your icon. If you were in this mob, you should be used to shouting- the real kind.When you impose a photo like that with no context it can only be assumed that you are suggesting this is our country. Our country is not perfect by a long shot, but I know of no other I would go to live unless it were Israel. I have been to many. Our govt. wants to give billions to the Hamas, An anti- Israel anti American entity that if you were to support (as a private citizen) you would be indited. I don't look to overthrow our govt., but I don't support recent trends. I can only pray for President Obama to gain wisdom and for the well being of our country and real world peace. I don't look to Obama being re-elected.

#147747 by Etu Malku
Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:03 pm
Damn, I thought we cleared all this music / god / satan nonesense up in 'my' thread on 'Satanic Music'?

If a christian is playing music, does it qualify as christian music?
If a satanist is playing music, does that qualify as satanic music?

I would think not.
I would agree as stated earlier that there are positive & negative messages, it's about Intention.

#147749 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:30 pm
We cleared this nonsense up on my topic Christian music. Satanic music is still unclear evidently, because even though this topic title implies, questions about Christian music is understood. It is the satanic music and those who are looking for the evil in "Christian music" that are still being inquired about. Just as in your last post, your first question answers itself. As does the second, but, yet it is still a little muddy in it's answer. Just as Jesus said there are those that don't like me, there will be those that don't like you. It is a witch hunt.

#147753 by Etu Malku
Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:57 pm
And what of 'Christian' music have we understood?
You 'are' implying that if a christian plays music it is Christian music and if a satanist plays it is Satanic music? Or do I not follow you?

Looking for the 'evil' in Christian music is a purely subjective endeavor, one that will be different for a good many ears. I would assume it would hinge on how you perceive Christianity in and of Itself?

Personally, I would label Christian music, any music with the intention of bringing about the feelings of atonement / harmony with the Christian god.

Gregorian chant is a fine example. Creed would be a poor example (in my opinion).

#147755 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:31 pm
Either you haven't read my posts or you're being selective in what you read. Clearly, my opinion of Christian rock is any thing that acknowledges any of the trinity- The Father, The Son, or The Holy Ghost. Not necessarily a song about saving souls or bible story telling. Satanic music, on the other hand, I feel is anything that promotes evil doing like it's a good thing. See my example ZZ Top. To clarify: I don't remember any bible story that has Jesus leaving Chicago on a bus or otherwise. He is acknowledging that Jesus exists by saying he just left. It could be argued that it is someone named Jesus, but not Jesus Christ because he doesn't say it that way, however, he does mention Jesus turning water into wine which is clearly biblical. Any other questions. Are we clear now?

#147760 by Etu Malku
Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:58 pm
Crunchysoundbite wrote:Either you haven't read my posts or you're being selective in what you read. Clearly, my opinion of Christian rock is any thing that acknowledges any of the trinity- The Father, The Son, or The Holy Ghost. Not necessarily a song about saving souls or bible story telling. Satanic music, on the other hand, I feel is anything that promotes evil doing like it's a good thing. See my example ZZ Top. To clarify: I don't remember any bible story that has Jesus leaving Chicago on a bus or otherwise. He is acknowledging that Jesus exists by saying he just left. It could be argued that it is someone named Jesus, but not Jesus Christ because he doesn't say it that way, however, he does mention Jesus turning water into wine which is clearly biblical. Any other questions. Are we clear now?
As clear as Muddy Water . . LOL!

Jesus just left Chicago and he's bound for New Orleans.
Well now, Jesus just left Chicago and he's bound for New Orleans.
Yeah, yeah.
Workin' from one end to the other and all points in between.

Took a jump through Mississippi, well, muddy water turned to wine.
Took a jump through Mississippi, muddy water turned to wine.
Yeah, yeah.
Then out to California through the forests and the pines.
Ah, take me with you, Jesus.

You might not see him in person but he'll see you just the same.
You might not see him in person but he'll see you just the same.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't have to worry 'cause takin' care of business is his name.

- Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill & Frank Beard
This is Evil?

Of course evil is purely subjective, the Christian church doesn't have a claim to what good & evil is, not to mention one Man's evil is another Man's good.

Satanism is only evil to those that fear it, like Christianity is only relevant to those that believe in it.
In your logic any song that mentions anything to do with the devil / satan etc. is Satanic . . . which it is not. The same would go for Christian rock, in my opinion there needs to be a little more intention and conviction than just tossing out a few Biblical catch phrases or mentioning aspects of the Christian Trinity.

#147761 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:24 pm
Now how did you get that I was saying that was evil? My example is that it Is Christian music. You don't want to admit to your confusion even though it is as clear as can be said. Did anyone else get that? Are you bi-polar? You seem to get the opposite of every post. Have you run any red lights lately? I'm concerned. :shock: Take me with you Jesus is pretty much saying he wants to be saved. You only proved my point (again). What's worse is then you ask a question asking me if I think that song is evil. Looks like someone missed the pill cart.

#147762 by Etu Malku
Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:41 pm
Crunchysoundbite wrote:Now how did you get that I was saying that was evil? My example is that it Is Christian music. You don't want to admit to your confusion even though it is as clear as can be said. Did anyone else get that? Are you bi-polar? You seem to get the opposite of every post. Have you run any red lights lately? I'm concerned. :shock: Take me with you Jesus is pretty much saying he wants to be saved. You only proved my point (again). What's worse is then you ask a question asking me if I think that song is evil. Looks like someone missed the pill cart.
I suppose it would help if you could type coherent sentences. Your ZZ Top reference is directly after your satanic blurb which would usually associate the two topics, hence my confusion as to why you would lump that song in with your misunderstanding of evil and satanism.

#147763 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:02 pm
It's all been a blurb and incoherent to you. If you weren't trying to confuse my words.you wouldn't have gotten confused. Sorry about the semantics. No, really, I am- sorry about the semantics.

#147764 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:46 pm
Hey, Etu- Seriously, There are more molecules aligned in anything that is matter that proves intelligent design than not, which is to say that most things that are are good. To ignore that as a sign is a sign in itself. My question to you (or anyone that can answer it) is this: What is the Difference between a Jack and a Jenny? (other than gender)

#147765 by Etu Malku
Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:54 pm
Crunchysoundbite wrote:Hey, Etu- Seriously, There are more molecules aligned in anything that is matter that proves intelligent design than not, which is to say that most things that are are good. To ignore that as a sign is a sign in itself. My question to you (or anyone that can answer it) is this: What is the Difference between a Jack and a Jenny? (other than gender)
How does molecular structure (which is created by a mathematical and organic formula) denote anything of intelligent design?

We have primarily two universes, one is our objective / physical one and the other exists outside of the confines of logic and symmetry, that of the subjective universe / psyche.

I give up . . . what is the difference?

#147767 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:02 pm
It is said that a Jenny carried Mary to Jesus' birthplace. Since then Jenny's have bore witness on their backs with a cross. A Jack is just an ass.

#147768 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:20 pm
What kind of wood was Jesus' cross made of?

#147769 by gbheil
Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:29 pm
Music nor any other inanimate object can be "evil".

But they can be put to evil purpose.

#147771 by Crunchysoundbite
Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:37 pm
A lot of Christian churches don't acknowledge that there is a hell. Every fiber of my being says there is one. It is an interesting outlook, what you said, but my question to you would be is there evil thoughts?

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