General Music Chat

I recently made my usual trip through the hollywood club scene and came across several screamo bands and wondered am i getting to old?i mean this is the latest trend yet it does`nt seem to be moving forward and pushing the rock genre.to me it seemed like speeded up grunge,kinda like going backwards.i love george lynch,paul gilbert,satch,etc.am i missing something here or were the older players just better and pushed the envelope,thus pushing fans to further push the envelope?

Forgot to include another section of a song... the bridge, got to include the bridge most songs have it.

I recently made my usual trip through the hollywood club scene and came across several screamo bands and wondered am i getting to old?i mean this is the latest trend yet it does`nt seem to be moving forward and pushing the rock genre.to me it seemed like speeded up grunge,kinda like going backwards.i love george lynch,paul gilbert,satch,etc.am i missing something here or were the older players just better and pushed the envelope,thus pushing fans to further push the envelope?

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The LA music scene seems pretty stale to me as well. The hoards of mindless, no-talent screamo bands playing to mostly empty rooms, the LA fusion scene where otherwise talented studio musicians get together and simply get into this legato-shred cutting contest at 170 notes per second. It all just looks like a bunch of wanking. What happened to theme and melody? Where are the clever lyrics or the marvelous hooks that draw an audience in?

I can relate to you guys observation agree even but I tend to stay away from criticism, it makes me feel jaded even old, when everything you hear these days give the feeling of been there done that it reminds me of people saying the same things to me when I first start out.
I guess one way to tell if today’s music is worth anything, is to wait and see if it can stand the test of time.


PS disregard my other post it was suppost be on another thread.

right you are johnny7

You sound like a bit frustrated. You shouldn't be. Just don't get hung up on following the crowd. You have some really talented guys working with you, and you are getting stuck on some momentary perceptions.

Time to lead not follow. Look at Bob, Sans, Chaeya, (I can't list them all) Doing their own thing. I love their music, and I'm actually liking yours. This is coming from a solidly stuck in the last century rocker,(I KEEP AWAY FROM RUN AROUND SUE,,,hey,hey,hey) Call me grampa.

You're on track, great players, creative ideas,great track recordings. (Those MESAS boogie)! I listened to your posted music, and when someone like you gets to the point you are at, it is hard get truly constructive criticism. Take it for what its worth, maybe nothing.

1 mastering sucks. Ran it through studio speakers, head phones, pa speakers, and good normal stereo speakers. Every where I played it it sounded so different, I was having fun.
2 tracks are all f...g great, Its not the playing, its what happened after. You have to watch the use of effects. The vocals were killed by over use of effects. Careful of the mix before you go back to 1.
3 The most commercial song you have is SCARED OF THE DARK. You have to play that game if you want people to remember you guys. Write more pedantic commercial material and don't follow the screamo bands. Not where your at. OH WELL,,, Lead or Follow.

thanks glen for taking the time to listen to the songs.i thought nobody ever did.we finally got a manager to help out which is good.by the way you don`t know how much it means that you took the time to listen and comment without pulling any punches.scared of the dark was ment to be a cruising song.hey glen thank you for being glen.

This isn't about me being glen. this is about you. DON'T QUIT NOW!!!

I bet a lot of people don't realize how many of us are cruising around listening to their music.

Bandmix should have a "hit counter" on our players.

Probably the only feature that myspace really had going for it.

You know what killed the music scene in L.A. in the 1980's ? Pay per play.
I got many guitar students that are very interested in increasing their right and left hand coordination, learning Blues playing, music theory, doing 8 fingered tapping and other technical things on the guitar.
Many new bands coming out are starting to reflect higher standards that used to be the norm years ago.

I recently made my usual trip through the hollywood am i missing something here or were the older players just better and pushed the envelope,thus pushing fans to further push the envelope?

lol, hell no.
Share a rehearsal space with a death metal band and I couldn't play what those kids are playing if my life depended on it.
Listening to it does nothing for me, but they have great skill.

mmmm 80's music.......

Not to discount shreddin skill.

But give me one note well played over thirty I cant discern any day.

There are not too many people in this world that could tell you they have never gotten angry and yelled at someone for all they can get out of their voice box possible. (Insert joke here). problem is, I think too many people enjoy that sound. Times gone by or somethin'. This has gone to an extent that there is a genre' to this. As I was growing up, ( doesn't matter at this point) the genre's I listened to were not exactly what my parents and elders would consider music. But, Come on, Those of us that were in our teens in the seventy's weren't listening to vocals that were the equivalent to belching the alphabet. Another thing is what people call singing when it is nothing more than recital of poems in two notes that in more times than not are nothing more than a review of the worst of society. Yeah, you know who you are. It is a perpetuation of looking for the worst and not stopping to smell the roses. there are good things in this world that surround us all- 24/7. then, there's the memory of horiffic things that people do, that impress on peoples lives that make profound imprints on them that they don't feel it's fair unless we all get that pain.