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[quote="Etu Malku"]
I take it you never heard of the Christian Crusades? Very much like Jihad if you ask me.

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I take it you never studied enough to know that Christian Crusades aren't Christian? They can't be found in the bible. They didn't follow the teachings of Christ.

I.E. I am going to kill people in the name of Etu Malku. That makes you a bad guy doesn't it?

Oh wait.... you didn't say to do that did you?
Neither does the bible. Make sense?

I take it you never heard of the Christian Crusades? Very much like Jihad if you ask me.

I take it you never studied enough to know that Christian Crusades aren't Christian? They can't be found in the bible. They didn't follow the teachings of Christ.

I.E. I am going to kill people in the name of Etu Malku. That makes you a bad guy doesn't it?

Oh wait.... you didn't say to do that did you?
Neither does the bible. Make sense?

Surely, you jest? (I know, don't call you shirley! . . ta dum)

God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).

He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls . . . (ahem, why is that?)

In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!

In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

I know it's true . . . because the bible tells me so.

I take it you never heard of the Christian Crusades? Very much like Jihad if you ask me.

I take it you never studied enough to know that Christian Crusades aren't Christian? They can't be found in the bible. They didn't follow the teachings of Christ.

I.E. I am going to kill people in the name of Etu Malku. That makes you a bad guy doesn't it?

Oh wait.... you didn't say to do that did you?
Neither does the bible. Make sense?

Surely, you jest? (I know, don't call you shirley! . . ta dum)

God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).

He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls . . . (ahem, why is that?)

In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!

In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

I know it's true . . . because the bible tells me so.

Guess again. That's all old testament which again we are not under and more importantly is NOT Christianity. The old testament is Judaism. Christianity did not start until Christ Died. The new testament is where the teachings of Christ can be found.

Excuse, Etu Malku,

There are no innocent people.

Other than Christ. When God allowed Christ to die God had a purpose. When God kills he always does it for a purpose. The most obvious being that it means little to God if He kills those who are spiritually dead, because to Him, they are already dead. God looks at eternity, we look at days and years. So what's the difference if a sinful man lives 15 seconds or 150 years? Nothing to God. He sees the ungodly man as already dead. To God, man is like the morning dew that evaporates as the sun rises.
Every Crusade, every tyrant claiming to be a Christian, every one calling themselves a Christian acts outside of Christ when he murders. Yet it is God who controls the ungodly as well as the Godly. The crusades and all events not under the cross are directed by God, regardless, to accomplish His will on earth.

Good and bad each happen at the command of God Most High. Lam 3:38

Just dropped by to see why this thread was still going.

Bah, as I posted earlier, Jesus clearly states that the Word of God is not to be ignored and that means the OT too!. This is just another scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god, manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their god (which is an imaginary entity in the first place).

The Old Testament were written in Hebrew. The Hebrew word for day used in the genesis is “yom”, which is a definite 24-hour period. Christians attempt to say that because there was no sun until the fourth day, that the word yom is null and void. This cant be, for the lord claimed there was light, a morning and an evening PRIOR to the sun being created, hence the sun was not even needed.

If a day is an era, why are an evening and a morning even mentioned? Actual days must be intended, otherwise, men who lived hundreds of years, e.g., Seth and Noah, would really have lived millions of years.

If a day means more than 24-hour period, then how are we to interpret the following verses, as well as scores of others. “Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath. . . . in it thou shalt not work... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth… and rested the seventh day” (Exodus 20:9-11).

Genesis 1:16 (“And God made two great lights: The greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night”) states the sun rules the day and the moon rules the night. This obviously is referring to time as we know it, time with days that are 24 hours long with daylight ruling half of each.

Bah, as I posted earlier, Jesus clearly states that the Word of God is not to be ignored and that means the OT too!.

And the old says that the new (perfect) is coming and that it will fulfill the old. It's not surprising you don't get this. Most professing Christians don't either.

I Cor 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

The perfect law is here. The old law has been fulfilled. We aren't under the old. The old is not to be ignored of course! It is written for our learning. We can learn God means what he says. And that he is just. Just doesn't mean lenient. It means he will judge righteousness judgment.

Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.



He fulfilled the old law by giving himself for us. The old law said here comes Jesus, watch for him, when he comes this old law that doesn't work will be over.

Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

If a day means more than 24-hour period, then how are we to interpret the following verses, as well as scores of others. “Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath. . . . in it thou shalt not work... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth… and rested the seventh day” (Exodus 20:9-11).

How are we to interpret that? We aren't. There's no room for interpretation. We are to simply read and understand it. Understand he created everything in 6 days. What's so hard about that?

All you are doing is blindly following humans. Dude, humans are stupid and self serving. Try doing something other than copying and pasting from the "buybull" sheep.

I'm sorry, I find all this christian stuff to be irrational and make-believe.
I find religion to be irrational and make-believe as well.

Why don't YOU neanderpaul, save your soapbox sermons for someone who cares? This is why people can't stand christians, they are always telling you how 'lost' you are and that they know the jesus secret . . . holy crap!

Get down off the cross brother . . . we can use the wood!

I take it you never heard of the Christian Crusades? Very much like Jihad if you ask me.

I take it you never studied enough to know that Christian Crusades aren't Christian? They can't be found in the bible. They didn't follow the teachings of Christ.

I.E. I am going to kill people in the name of Etu Malku. That makes you a bad guy doesn't it?

Oh wait.... you didn't say to do that did you?
Neither does the bible. Make sense?

Surely, you jest? (I know, don't call you shirley! . . ta dum)

God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).

He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls . . . (ahem, why is that?)

In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!

In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

I know it's true . . . because the bible tells me so.

Guess again. That's all old testament which again we are not under and more importantly is NOT Christianity. The old testament is Judaism. Christianity did not start until Christ Died. The new testament is where the teachings of Christ can be found.

It's the SAME god! No? And the Nazarene is supposedly the physical incarnation of this SAME god!

Don't tell me there was some changing of the god (pun intended)

I have known people that would avoid Black Sabbath because their front was very dark. In the DVD Black sabbath "THE LAST SUPPER" they (band) talk about their origins. While other bands were singing Little deuce coup, they found a void in the music market, really no worse than watching Dracula movies. One occasion, knowing of Zack Wilde's interest in art of the occult, Ozzy gave Zack a very old book on black magic. Thankfully Zach took the book, but during the night he was awaken by the "Figure in Black that stands before me." Soon to be followed by "Oh no, Please God help me!" More on that story, but you'll have to see the video.

Might want to fact-check that story... Zakk Wylde was born in '67. The song Black Sabbath (which was written based on the incident) came out in '70. So, either Ozzy is a VERY sick f**k who gave the Necronomicon or Satanic Bible or whatever it was to a 3 year old, or he gave the book to Iommi, not Wylde.

Sorry, It has Been a while since I watch the vid. Will go back to the source and correct as needed

Excuse, Etu Malku,

There are no innocent people.

Other than Christ. When God allowed Christ to die God had a purpose. When God kills he always does it for a purpose. The most obvious being that it means little to God if He kills those who are spiritually dead, because to Him, they are already dead. God looks at eternity, we look at days and years. So what's the difference if a sinful man lives 15 seconds or 150 years? Nothing to God. He sees the ungodly man as already dead. To God, man is like the morning dew that evaporates as the sun rises.
Every Crusade, every tyrant claiming to be a Christian, every one calling themselves a Christian acts outside of Christ when he murders. Yet it is God who controls the ungodly as well as the Godly. The crusades and all events not under the cross are directed by God, regardless, to accomplish His will on earth.

Good and bad each happen at the command of God Most High. Lam 3:38

Just dropped by to see why this thread was still going.

Why don't YOU neanderpaul, save your soapbox sermons for someone who cares? This is why people can't stand christians, they are always telling you how 'lost' you are and that they know the jesus secret . . . holy crap!

Get down off the cross brother . . . we can use the wood!

It's almost like you're a spam bot. The ONLY reason you would be allowed to tell me to stop the soapbox sermons is if I had been preaching.... Trying to convert you. Reread what I wrote. I haven't suggested you follow the gospel call. To hear, believe, repent, confess, and be baptized for remission of sins. If I had done that I could be accused of a soapbox sermon. Your particular case falls under the "pearls before swine category". Man, you're so automated.

Here is your approach in a nutshell. "oh he said Jesus. He quoted a scripture. I have to accuse him of being a holy roller!"

You really aren't thinking. You're just using preprogrammed autoresponses learned from other simpleton bible haters.

What I have done is pointed out that DUH! Christianity isn't in the old testament. And DUH! the crusades didn't follow ANY Christian principals and therefore CANNOT represent Christianity.

Try thinking for yourself.

Why don't YOU neanderpaul, save your soapbox sermons for someone who cares? This is why people can't stand christians, they are always telling you how 'lost' you are and that they know the jesus secret . . . holy crap!

Get down off the cross brother . . . we can use the wood!

It's almost like you're a spam bot. The ONLY reason you would be allowed to tell me to stop the soapbox sermons is if I had been preaching.... Trying to convert you. Reread what I wrote. I haven't suggested you follow the gospel call. To hear, believe, repent, confess, and be baptized for remission of sins. If I had done that I could be accused of a soapbox sermon. Your particular case falls under the "pearls before swine category". Man, you're so automated.

Here is your approach in a nutshell. "oh he said Jesus. He quoted a scripture. I have to accuse him of being a holy roller!"

You really aren't thinking. You're just using preprogrammed autoresponses learned from other simpleton bible haters.

What I have done is pointed out that DUH! Christianity isn't in the old testament. And DUH! the crusades didn't follow ANY Christian principals and therefore CANNOT represent Christianity.

Try thinking for yourself.

Misdirection and covert bs, antagonistic replies may work on sheeple, but not on me, I do think for myself, have been for 50 yrs, may I suggest it is YOU who thinks, acts, and lives under the veil of someone else's irrational thoughts and delusional paradigm?

Why don't we just drop this please, and stay on the OP? If you have nothing to contribute to the thread other than indirect proselytizing then don't waste your time replying.

I am not interested in debating your religious philosophy or defending mine.

You're a total retard for not seeing that I'm not proselytizing.

You obviously got called out for being a cut and paste copycat of simpleton bible haters.

You are obviously a sheep of stupid humans.

I am a sheep following the living God. I use Deductive reasoning and 40 years of life experience to see order and intelligent design in this universe. A design indicates a designer.

You're a total retard for not seeing that I'm not proselytizing.

You obviously got called out for being a cut and paste copycat of simpleton bible haters.

You are obviously a sheep of stupid humans.

I am a sheep following the living God. I use Deductive reasoning and 40 years of life experience to see order and intelligent design in this universe. A design indicates a designer.

And now the hate comes out . . . typical!