General Music Chat

He certainly doesn't have horns and a pitchfork. But he certainly IS gunning for our souls. Sounds like he has yours nailed down and doesn't have to work for it. He constantly guns for mine. I'll keep "studying to show my self approved unto God" II Tim 2:15, And staying armed to fight him off Eph6:11. Dante Shmante. How directly from God's inspired word.

He certainly doesn't have horns and a pitchfork. But he certainly IS gunning for our souls. Sounds like he has yours nailed down and doesn't have to work for it. He constantly guns for mine. I'll keep "studying to show my self approved unto God" II Tim 2:15, And staying armed to fight him off Eph6:11. Dante Shmante. How directly from God's inspired word.

Well, personally I don't believe in any of these things such as gods, demons, devils, angels etc. I agree with Jung that they are all archetypal images embedded deep within our unconsciousness.


Here's a few treasures from your book to ponder:

Psalms 137:9
How blessed will be the one who grabs your babies and smashes them on a rock!

Leviticus 20:9
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

Typical. Quote the old while not realizing that we are under the new.

Why do you think it's embedded there? Perhaps because we are created beings designed to worship. That's why you worship yourself. Humanism much?

Typical. Quote the old while not realizing that we are under the new.

Why do you think it's embedded there? Perhaps because we are created beings designed to worship. That's why you worship yourself. Humanism much?

Well, I really didn't want to go into a debate on this thread about our beliefs.

Oh look evil quotes from the New Testament:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die"

“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

“...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

There are so many. I mean the genre's of black metal and death metal are loaded with so called satanist. Just to name a few; Deicide, Possessed, Venom, Bathory, Impaled Nazarene and on and on...Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that a good portion of these satanic bands play the whole thing up as a gimmick. Although, some of the church burning/murdering Norwegian bands leave me to wonder.

King Diamond, while he/they don't fall under the black/death metal banner, more of a progressive/power metal...claims to be an actual satanist...who knows? Couldn't care less...If the music's good, then I'll give it a fair shake, and if they are truly satanist, well then, more power to them, to each his/her own...I don't get involved in or with other peoples belief systems...nuff said.

I agree with you, I hate debating beliefs.

Do you think any of those bands you mention have actual practicing satanists in them, or is it just an image?

For instance Thomas Karlsson from Therion is a practicing occultist.

Yes, and?

Yes, and?

To which post are you replying?

You quoted scriptures. and? How are they evil? They aren't.

You quoted scriptures. and? How are they evil? They aren't.

I would think affirming the murder of another would be considered evil, but I guess I was really trying to point out that Yeshua enforces the Old Testament, therefore condones what it taught and what god did (which was send millions of people to their deaths), I think He clearly states this.

You're blind.
You will pay ETERNALLY for dishonoring your parents. You will not be killed for it in this life. The NEW testament does not teach that.

You're blind.
You will pay ETERNALLY for dishonoring your parents. You will not be killed for it in this life. The NEW testament does not teach that.

I'm not blind, I read clearly that Yeshua condones the actions of god as well as the teachings of the OT, you on the other hand, as all christian apologists do, read what you want to read.

Nevertheless, this is derailing my satanic music thread!

You're blind.
You will pay ETERNALLY for dishonoring your parents. You will not be killed for it in this life. The NEW testament does not teach that.

I'm not blind, I read clearly that Yeshua condones the actions of god as well as the teachings of the OT, you on the other hand, as all christian apologists do, read what you want to read.

Nevertheless, this is derailing my satanic music thread!

The old was FULFILLED. We are UNDER the new. That IS the teachings of the old.

Im not gonna get into this devil/god stuff with you guys!

But whenever I see one of those Behind the Music programs on bands like say Iron Maiden, these guys arent satanist or christian in my mind, they are musicians who during that period of time used the emblems and stuff to just attract customers. Kinda like a lead on add for Wal Mart. I grew up in the late 70s and those covers really really pissed my parents off, so what album do you think I wanted? Seals and Crofts or Highway to Hell, man I had a mint Highway To Hell tour shirt, the baseball type and my mom threw it out cause Angus had horns.

I think most of the band have no intent in using this symbolism other than to draw people.

On the other hand Im sure there are some that maybe believe one way or the other.


All right you guys back at it!

Im not gonna get into this devil/god stuff with you guys!

But whenever I see one of those Behind the Music programs on bands like say Iron Maiden, these guys arent satanist or christian in my mind, they are musicians who during that period of time used the emblems and stuff to just attract customers. Kinda like a lead on add for Wal Mart. I grew up in the late 70s and those covers really really pissed my parents off, so what album do you think I wanted? Seals and Crofts or Highway to Hell, man I had a mint Highway To Hell tour shirt, the baseball type and my mom threw it out cause Angus had horns.

I think most of the band have no intent in using this symbolism other than to draw people.

On the other hand Im sure there are some that maybe believe one way or the other.


All right you guys back at it!

Do you think the christian based artists/bands are more sincere or just as full of it, using christianity as an image?

I think they're sincere just as God's love for you is sincere, while the satanist bands are insincere just as the devil. God let's you make your own choices, sounds like your making a bad one. You ought to reconsider