General Music Chat

Nothing you said is wrong Cheya - I just disagreed with Jimmy's input is all, because his post was purely troll bait - nothing helpful to say, just baiting a reaction which is his style - so I bit

The "don't quit your day job" was just a there for the punch line - I mean, that's a classic punchline, no?

But I still think that while you had more "input" than Klugmo, you didn't really offer a solution - "get a producer" doesn't solve rhythem or tuning problems which are what you pointed out. If you're gonna leave the solution to common sense, then Klugmos "unlistenable" equally leaves the remedy to common sense, and ultimately you're both saying the same thing - "figure it out for yourself", except you're giving in addition some extra advice of getting a producer (which is putting the cart before the horse, right?).

The girl has potential, I said it.

I on the other hand, in no less than a sentence, did more than both of you! I stated "get an instructor" and "use a metrinome"! That at least addresses the problem of timing and tuning for our friend the op, who's profile by the way, says she is a he?

If it was troll bait it looks like I caught one lol.

And damn it, the word is rhythm. Or maybe you can misspell it another way?

Like eye alwase sed jimmy, yer gots the biggest smarte brane heres.[/b]

Look what you started Chay [/b]

You got us bickering like Archie and Meathead.

Right Meathead?

If it was troll bait it looks like I caught one lol.

And damn it, the word is rhythm. Or maybe you can misspell it another way?

I bet you spell checked that sentence before posting it just to cover your arse.

Ah, you guys just like to argue. I figured that one out a long time ago. I actually enjoy it.

Klug, I was speaking in general, I was no longer speaking about Angel's music. But listen, we've all been hurt, it's what creates the driving force that keeps us in the game. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you're gonna get your feelie weelies hurt over something someone says, then you don't need to be in this business.

My mom told me constantly that I couldn't sing, oh there you go with that "sh*t," "you're not out there spending all your money on that music sh*t, are you? I got that madness up until she passed away a few years ago. My parents would send me gift cards because they were afraid I was gonna spend it on instruments instead of buy my kids stuff. Really? I'm gonna let my kids starve in favor of buying an instrument? I've had a bunch of guys talk sh*t on me in a forum 8 years ago, I mean you wouldn't believe the mean sh*t they said to me, ripped me to shreds all because I asked for an honest opinion of my recording and wanted some tips. They thought I was trying to sell my music and spam their little shitty board. I mean, you guys are nicer. My recording sucked, it was horrible, I knew it was, they were a group of recording engineers who worked in the industry, what the f**k would I want to sell them my CD for? I said that, all I wanted to know was what I did wrong. Another time, I posted on an American Idol forum that I didn't agree with their age limits and I was told by a number of people that I was a old, I needed to get over it, I had my chance and I just needed to face the fact that I was a loser. How about doing an audition and having someone go "thank you" before you're even done? We laugh about it when we see it on TV, but it's hard. Didn't happen to me, but I've seen it happen to people. When I wrote my first book and got a critique partner, she tore me up and told me it was "unreadable" and then pretty much told me I needed to relearn how to write. Did I cry about it? I followed her advice because I saw that she was right. I took classes, read books on grammer, plots, character development and so on, and because of it, my book is now readable and doesn't read like a 10 yo wrote it.

AND I'M STILL HERE, BITCHES!!!! I don't give a sh*t what anyone says mostly, but if they're giving me something that will help me, I'm gonna take it and run, not sit and boo hoo because they didn't stwoke my widdle ego.

Jams, dig, I gave her a lot of solutions, I don't see how she couldn't figure it out. You get some cash and you get your stuff recorded. I worked a day job my whole life - I hired musicians, I paid for studio time, I bought my own master tapes to record on, now I own my own studio. I paid for photographers, put together my own press kits. Most of what I learned in this business was because of producers. And I got work in turn, I got a lot of session work all because of one producer who I hooked up with. Instructors are fine, but you get off your butt and practice day in and day out, and like you said, get a metronome, you will get good. I had one vocal instruction with some big opera instructor. In that one lesson, I learned breath control and how to sing from my diaphram. I took a music theory class from LACC because I wanted to at least have a clue. The rest was practice, practice and more practice. You can love my voice, think it's blah or hate it, but I worked long and hard on it.

So you want to be in this business, you'll work your ass off under me. You bring it to me, I will take out a whip and ride you like Sea Biscuit, but you'll be great when I get done with you. People won't be able to tell you any smack.

Chaeya

Ah, you guys just like to argue. I figured that one out a long time ago. I actually enjoy it.

Jams, dig, I gave her a lot of solutions, I don't see how she couldn't figure it out.

Chaeya

all good
are we sure she's a she and not a he? Her profile says he, but the picture could be a he or a she and you guys call him a her and so now I"m not so sure myself except that her profile says he, not she.

I looked at one picture and I saw two things poking out in the breast region, so I guess girl. Oh darn, there I go pissing off the transgender community off again. I have a friend who's transgender and I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally called her a he, and then there's my daughter going: "mom, how come he's wearing a dress?"

We really could have a reality show and people would watch, and I really don't think that's totally a compliment.

Chaeya

I bet you spell checked that sentence before posting it just to cover your arse.

No need. I am educated; what's your excuse? And what's with that fake-ass toupe you drew on your avatar? It fools no one.

I looked at one picture and I saw two things poking out in the breast region, so I guess girl. Oh darn, there I go pissing off the transgender community off again. I have a friend who's transgender and I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally called her a he, and then there's my daughter going: "mom, how come he's wearing a dress?"

We really could have a reality show and people would watch, and I really don't think that's totally a compliment.

Chaeya

I bet you spell checked that sentence before posting it just to cover your arse.

No need. I am educated; what's your excuse? And what's with that fake-ass toupe you drew on your avatar? It fools no one.

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Mess with the bull, get the horns.

Mess with the bull, get the horns.

LOL. How 80's of you. Intelligence is of course defined by one's ability to quote cult classics.

You have to have a thick skin. My wife dislikes hard rock / metal in general and my interpretation of it in particular.

I played a tune for her recently that I was really pleased with. She noted 'gently', "That didn't suck as much as usual! And I'm sure that thirteen year olds everywhere will love the lyrics."

Then I knew how Haydn felt when Queen Vic stood for the chorus...

Talbot