General Music Chat

Sorry RM but I have to agree the guys. Your attitude sucks big time and there really is no need for it!!

I'm kind of 50/50 on this one... A monstrous ego is never a problem if the "thing" that person is commited to is even larger than their ego.

I like the way RM plays.

Would Hendrix be Hendrix if he played like everyone before him ?
Unconventional is good.
Viva unconventional.

Just saying.

Ah, Paul - When you let 'er rip, it's something to see (& it's almost always called for).

My grandpappy always used to say "If you cant handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen!"

And RhythmMan is now a guest.

I shouldn't do this but I gotta:

1) I agree with Prevost, about 20 seconds (on a good day) and I click on to something else. It's the nature of the internet.

2) If your out of tune, your out of tune. Jimmy says strings, I can see one string maybe being a little off, but strings clearly says your not using a tuner.

3) Neanderpaul can you really critique his song structure? When you say most songs have 6 to 10 chords. Check your basic music theory, most songs consist of a I, V, IV, and have since triads were introduced (because it sounds so good). Lot's of great blues players just used a I.

4) I didn't know you could get spanked on the internet, my old computer doesn't have that capabilty yet.

5) If you just want to hear something hard to play on the guitar, how about Segovia, playing some of Bach's fugues.

6) My Grand Dad use to say "If they can't get over it, they can get under it"

I know I'm arrogant in person, it's a flaw I'm working on.

Peace I love you all

Absolutely Lynard. It's not possible to play in tune, we just try to use whatever gadgets we can to come as close as we can. And that includes autotune. I think that we should use what technology is available to get the sound we hear in our heads down on plastic. As far as acoustic guitar, it is a naked instrument; any imperfection is magnified and noticeable. I merely pointed out that it was something that could be fixed if desired.

Absolutely Lynard. It's not possible to play in tune, we just try to use whatever gadgets we can to come as close as we can. And that includes autotune. I think that we should use what technology is available to get the sound we hear in our heads down on plastic. As far as acoustic guitar, it is a naked instrument; any imperfection is magnified and noticeable. I merely pointed out that it was something that could be fixed if desired.

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Neanderpaul can you really critique his song structure? When you say most songs have 6 to 10 chords.

That would be a 4 chord progression on a verse. Maybe 2 on a repeating chorus and 2 on a bridge for instance.
Or 2 on a verse and 4 on a chorus.
The song he had up was closer to that than almost any of his music (a relief). Because most of his songs had a ton of chords in progressions that made no pleasing sense.

Check your basic music theory,

No thanks. Never did. Never will. I've also never practiced a scale, cant read music either. Regarding that group of nevers why don't you listen to my song in my profile "let it go". I wrote and performed all parts except the drums.

most songs consist of a I, V, IV, and have since triads were introduced (because it sounds so good). Lot's of great blues players just used a I.

OK. Maybe you could listen to my song. "I gots to know" regarding the I,V, IV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VEa3g6zqX8

4) I didn't know you could get spanked on the internet, my old computer doesn't have that capabilty yet.

I guess you've never seen anybody have it handed to them on the net either.

5) If you just want to hear something hard to play on the guitar, how about Segovia, playing some of Bach's fugues.

Not sure how you got there. I am complaining that most of his songs had too many chords. Thus the pretentious comment. Regarding my thoughts on tough parts and too many chords listen to my best known loop.
"walking alone" TWO chords... period. I'm about simplicity and hooks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5IAQVPGKTs

Oh come on Paul tell us how you realy feel ...

1) I agree with Prevost, about 20 seconds (on a good day) and I click on to something else. It's the nature of the internet.

Actually he said 20 seconds was his limit with RhythmMan specifically. Not just everything on the internet.

but I agree with you ... I've never been able to listen to RhythmMan music for more than 20 seconds.

And you are not playing JAZZ ... it's far from it.

Fact. I don't know what he plays. That's not a bad thing of course.

Jazz, some metal, blue grass, and classical are all genres I don't have the talent for.

I think when Paul and Jimmy collaborate they put out some of the best tunes on this forum ...

Thanks man!

the sum is better that the parts ...

I totally agree! We hit magic together! Guitar is where Jimmy really shines. Vox are my strongest tool.

I'm not very computer savy and haven't got the quote function figured out out yet, but here goes.
Neanderpaul not all the comments were about your remarks, really just points 3 and 4.
Learning scales and theory will enhance every part of your music
(there's no denying this) All western music is based on the major scale.
So your using it even if you don't know it, wouldn't it be nice to know what your writing, dreaming imagining, and be able to write it down in a notation system, that every one could read. Hard to beat a I, IV, V.
I will listen to some of your music.
And no I've never seen anybody have it handed to them on the net. Is that what your doing now?

Learning scales and theory will enhance every part of your music
(there's no denying this)

Believe me I deny it. I love the fact that I have no understanding of the communication of music. I can write parts and harmonies that make people know without I doubt that I am trained even though I am not. I also like it when a 120 lb fighter whips a 300 lb fighter in mixed martial arts. I like it when some underfunded racer beats the corporate backed big dogs. I like doing more with less.

All western music is based on the major scale.

OK. I wouldn't know. I though there was a lot of minor scales. Blues specifically.

So your using it even if you don't know it,

I'm sure I am.

wouldn't it be nice to know what your writing, dreaming imagining, and be able to write it down in a notation system, that every one could read.

No. I put into audio what I dream and imagine. That is the ultimate to me. I instead derive great pleasure from people saying "oh! That's a blah blah with a diminished blah blah." or "Are you using a third there?" And me smiling and saying I don't know. I just wrote the part the song called for.

Here is a specific example of that happening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnoPxqSJR34

Some people learn music. Some people are music. I made music with an electric hair dryer motor powered by a toy train transformer when I was a little boy. When I was 5 I wrote a song that just days ago I played the piano part for. That piano part was in my head at 5.

I am NOT a great musician. My main talent is my vox. I can however bring songs to life in a big way. Mine and others. I can write, perform, and record leads, piano parts, and bass parts that indicate I know theory. I get off on not being trained.

And no I've never seen anybody have it handed to them on the net. Is that what your doing now?

No. It's what I finally did to RhythmMan after several years of holding back. Like Philbymon said above. I don't usually do it. It's rare in fact.

Scales and theory show how the notes communicate with each other.
All western music is based on the major scale.
Knowledge is power, Ignorance is bliss
Glad your not handing it to me.
By the way I'm self taught on everything, no lessons ever (except maybe by some really good musicians who I've played with, and tryed to steal every lick they know)
Yet I love to study and practice music everyday, here in my old age 51.
Peace It's all good

I just play. I simply write. If you listen to my links what I said may make sense. The relationships of melody, harmony, chord progressions, and even solos over that is expressed better in my mind as emotions. All music evokes emotions in people who can hear. That far supersedes scales and theories showing how they communicate. It's music at it's purist level.

I've put it to people this way. I may not know the name of the note but I know the note personally. That is my knowledge, my power.

If you listen to just one piece listen to an unfinished track called "wonderful thing". It is not yet edited. A friend sang it to me. I arranged it. I wrote the organ part first. Then He laid the lead vocal. His sister laid a harmony vocal. Then they left. I wrote a 3rd harmony, the bass, rhythm, drums, leads. The fact that I have no clue what a single note is by name says it all. I have no idea what key it's in or even what chords I'm playing. Listen to the leads specifically and tell me I need to learn theory. If you say yes after listening to that I'll drop it.