General Music Chat

http://www.hulu.com/search?query=before ... s&st=1&fs=

A friend told me about this documentary on HULU.
If you can ignore the fact that most of those interviewed are blues musicians, then you can focus on the message.

It's about an hour long, I watched it in three episodes (mostly been busy with my own projects), but I am glad I did, because it was an honest view of the music industry here in the US, and it addresses the future of music.

It's cool to see there are still people that give a damn about music today before the almighty $$.
The re-building of what once was... a great part of American culture. real music

Scratch, thanks for posting that. That movie was the cold, hard, truth. I literally almost cried watching that...I'm not kidding.

It's a good piece.
Problem is the much maligned "industry insiders" are only giving the consumer what they want. So whom is really at fault ?
Consumers have always outnumbered the connoisseurs.

Bud Light is America's #1 selling beer.
It's like sex in a canoe ... f*#king near water.

The big business man will always sell to the consumer.
The connoisseur will always find better elsewhere.

They used to teach music appreciation in the schools but that stopped years ago.

I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

I took a music appreciation course in college Slacker.

I did not want too, but I had to carry full time hours to maintain my scholarship.

We only covered the composers of the classical era.

I end up really digging the class.

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2 ... e-service/

"Clear Channel, which owns 850 stations in 150 cities, plans to use Thumbplay’s technology as part of its online radio platform, iHeartRadio, which includes content from 175 Clear Channel stations. The deal, Mr. Pittman said, would also allow iHeartRadio to develop a service that he compared to Pandora, the popular Internet radio service that creates custom stations based on listeners’ tastes."


I can only imagine that CC will skew the 'custom stations' to suit their own play-list.

It's a good piece.
Problem is the much maligned "industry insiders" are only giving the consumer what they want. So whom is really at fault ?
Consumers have always outnumbered the connoisseurs.

Bud Light is America's #1 selling beer.
It's like sex in a canoe ... f*#king near water.

The big business man will always sell to the consumer.
The connoisseur will always find better elsewhere.

That's a good joke about Bud Light, however the joke is on us. Budweiser (Anheuser Busch) is now owned by a Belgian Company. I see the "Budweiser: Great American Lager" signs on the highway and laugh. It should say "Former Great American Lager".

We still have stations around here that play old country and none of the new stuff. Some of that is either coming back or they are die hards.

It's a good piece.
Problem is the much maligned "industry insiders" are only giving the consumer what they want. So whom is really at fault ?
Consumers have always outnumbered the connoisseurs.

Bud Light is America's #1 selling beer.
It's like sex in a canoe ... f*#king near water.

The big business man will always sell to the consumer.
The connoisseur will always find better elsewhere.

That's a good joke about Bud Light, however the joke is on us. Budweiser (Anheuser Busch) is now owned by a Belgian Company. I see the "Budweiser: Great American Lager" signs on the highway and laugh. It should say "Former Great American Lager".

Bud is still brewed in this country, employs over 30,000 Americans, not to mention the employees of independent distributors.

"We still have stations around here that play old country and none of the new stuff. Some of that is either coming back or they are die hards."

Not much decent country in Atlanta - but I have "Outlaw Country" on Satellite which is pretty decent.

More than one group of hard rockers have considered me insane for playing head banger stuff on bass and guitar but mooning over old country cheating songs on my off time. To me, it's just white boy blues.

I played in one country outfit years ago - Billy Carroll and the Countrymen. Billy was pretty good but every song he'd lean over and say, "Mike - this one's in D." Well yeah!

Talbot

Sounds like your in total agreement.

Maybe I just did a poor job of making my point.

Sounds like your in total agreement.

Maybe I just did a poor job of making my point.

Yeah, you kinda sounded like you were blaming the consumer. Which, to a certain extent, should bear some of the blame for easily being lead by the nose.
Bear in mind that, back in the early 70's, Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love" was beat out by Tony Orlando's "Candida" for number one hit, based on BillBoard mag.

The documentary made a good point were it comes to the large labels and their lack of enthusiasm for cultivating artists, the way they used to before the indie labels came to be.

Nowadays, you get musicians who spend a few thousand on equipment to "home-studio" their music, up-load it to a site, all with with no real arrangement, studio quality experience, or "road/stage" experience. And they swear on a stack of bibles that their music is great. And everyone wonders....why isnt there a "new" sound. And the answer is..................



(bring it)

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Nowadays, you get musicians who spend a few thousand on equipment to "home-studio" their music, up-load it to a site, all with with no real arrangement, studio quality experience, or "road/stage" experience. And they swear on a stack of bibles that their music is great. And everyone wonders....why isnt there a "new" sound. And the answer is..................



(bring it)[/quote]

Right, now everything's a cluttered mess of anarchy. It's like we went from communism to every man for himself...that's music and the internet literally. It's not fair to the people who have the discipline, and the experience, but you just gotta hope you can get seen underneath all the trash that's being poured in from the bedrooms.

I'll take today's free reign over the mob and dope pushers approval anyday.