General Music Chat

My Label owner went to Nashville and played my demo to a record executive
without my permission and then wont tell me what label or what exec.
This song has not been published nor am I under contract with him yet.
This seems very underhanded and sneaky. That is my property not his.
The contract signing has been delayed many times and is getting to look a little hinky.
What do you think?[/b]

I think they will f#@K you every chance they get.

In a nutshell.....because there are underlying reasons for each:


1. Post the song on at least three sites tonight.

2. Can the Label, with extreme prejudice.

3. Call whatever contacts you've made that also know the Label manager and relay your story.

That's just from my experience. Then deal with the consequences as they present themselves. Some will be good.

Make sure you answer or return all phone calls. And by all means.....be pissed off.

Depends who produced the recording (who wrote the check). If you did, you have a valid beef. If you didn't, tough nouggies. This is why I insist on producing; I am in control of what happens. DIY!

I think they will f#@K you every chance they get.

George...what do you really mean?

he used my original demo of the song because the TriRock one wasn't finished
before his trip. What he did was very unethical and compounded by not giving me the
information.

Hmm, I guess if it was your recording you have a point but if the new recording wasn't ready and he had a legitimate business contact then you should probably forget about it. Who knows, it might result in something.

The contract signing has been delayed many times and is getting to look a little hinky.
What do you think?[/b]

He could be taking you for a ride ... not the first time something like that would have happened.

I always very cautious when dealing with anyone in the music business, promoters, labels etc. If I see things going sideways, like your contract signing, I put the brakes on until they get something completed that I'm happy with ... if they don't I walk ... I've been screw over a couple times from not knowing when to walk ...

Getting signed by a label (for a lot of musicians) is like falling in love (or lust) ... you have to stand back and have a hard look at what you are getting into. To few people do that.

On other thing ... if you think that you can get satisfaction in the courts if they have screw you ... think again ... your outcome is in direct porption to the money you have to spend in court defending your ownership of your music

Ron

My Label owner went to Nashville and played my demo to a record executive
without my permission and then wont tell me what label or what exec.
This song has not been published nor am I under contract with him yet.
This seems very underhanded and sneaky. That is my property not his.
The contract signing has been delayed many times and is getting to look a little hinky.
What do you think?[/b]

If he won't tell you what label or exec how on Earth did you find out? Did he tell you he went to Nashville and played it for a record executive? Did he tell you why? It sounds a little strange that he would do this and not give you any specific info. My guess is that if you are not under contract with him he might be playing it for people in the business to get their opinion(s) on whether it's worth it for him to sign you. I really don't think at this point there's anything for you to worry about. I assume (hope) that your demo is copywritten. Until you hear or find out something otherwise I'd bet it will benefit you in the end.

My Label owner went to Nashville and played my demo to a record executive
without my permission and then wont tell me what label or what exec.
What do you think?[/b]

I've got one suggestion. Copyright your music. Period. All the stuff we posted under the name "Wicked Brother", and what is on our page now, is copy written. We have over 35 original songs that we play live. But I will only post things off our original EP because we are still waiting for our copyrights to come back.

Our lawyer tells us that copyrights are the only thing that will save you if people steal your music. In fact, if you DON'T copywrite, in theory, someone could copywrite YOUR music, and then THEY would own it!

AT

My Label owner went to Nashville and played my demo to a record executive
without my permission and then wont tell me what label or what exec.
What do you think?[/b]

I've got one suggestion. Copyright your music. Period. All the stuff we posted under the name "Wicked Brother", and what is on our page now, is copy written. We have over 35 original songs that we play live. But I will only post things off our original EP because we are still waiting for our copyrights to come back.

Our lawyer tells us that copyrights are the only thing that will save you if people steal your music. In fact, if you DON'T copywrite, in theory, someone could copywrite YOUR music, and then THEY would own it!

AT

Technically your songs are copywritten the moment you send them. I hope you retained proof of the date they were sent. It may take many months for you to get the copywrite confirmation back. Sometimes it takes up to two years from what I hear.

My Label owner went to Nashville and played my demo to a record executive
without my permission and then wont tell me what label or what exec.
What do you think?[/b]

AT

Technically your songs are copywritten the moment you send them. I hope you retained proof of the date they were sent. It may take many months for you to get the copywrite confirmation back. Sometimes it takes up to two years from what I hear.

Yup. I know that Bob. I meant to mention it. Actually, it took me six months to get confirmation of receipt on the first tunes, and, we just received confirmation on another batch and that took nine months. So, yeah, you just want to get confirmation to go forward with your music, or you will never do anything.

But, you at least have to start the process or you do not have a legal leg to stand on.

AT

Send the tunes to yourself in a receipt return requested letter and never open it unless it goes legal.

I've done it for years but no idea if actually works when push comes to shove.

Talbot

It doesn't MT.[/b]

My Label owner went to Nashville and played my demo to a record executive
without my permission and then wont tell me what label or what exec.
This song has not been published nor am I under contract with him yet.
This seems very underhanded and sneaky. That is my property not his.
The contract signing has been delayed many times and is getting to look a little hinky.
What do you think?[/b]

I thin that he is either full of crap, or you should lay down the law with him.
Why he would take a demo to a 'label executive' instead of a big producer first kind of makes me scratch my head. If he wanted to get opinions on the material, that is.