General Music Chat

Glen, are you actually saying that Palin would make anything at all "secure?"

Have you been following those things he says & does, or am I missing a whole lot of real prowess? Cuz I just don't see anything at all in her that is good for anyone, from her personal life to her career, it all looks pretty bleak to me.

She make Kate Gosselin cry. There's got to be SOMETHING good about her.

For having everything under control God either has a nasty sense of humor or is incredibly inept.

Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees.

Oh so God has everything under control then Zip? Sorry I disagree, an all-knowing, all-powerful loving being would not allow the cruelty and suffering that occurs on a daily basis.

Even if there is a God I think He forgot about us eons ago.

Now who can't see the forest?

Oh so God has everything under control then Zip? Sorry I disagree, an all-knowing, all-powerful loving being would not allow the cruelty and suffering that occurs on a daily basis.

So, He'd strip us of our free will. Where's the love in that?

Oh so God has everything under control then Zip? Sorry I disagree, an all-knowing, all-powerful loving being would not allow the cruelty and suffering that occurs on a daily basis.

Even if there is a God I think He forgot about us eons ago.

Now who can't see the forest?

Because you don't know of a good reason for something, doesn't mean there isn't a good reason for it. To conclude, however, that because you don't know of a good reason, there can't be one, wreaks of a God complex. Who says you aren't religious?!

Just like a baby receiving life saving stitches without anesthesia thinks the doctor is a cruel barbarian, the atheist thinks all bad circumstances, if attributed to God, must mean God has bad intentions. Yet the end result from the doctor's perspective is he just saved the baby's life. Perhaps there's more to what is going on than you want to see?

Yes, please tell me the good reasons for child molesters, genocide, killer earthquakes and the countless other bad things that happen every day. Oh, only God knows that, right? Horse crap, the truth is there is no reason for anything. Things just happen. All we can do is live the best we can and try to take care of the ones we love.

Oh, only God knows that, right?

yep! pretty simple. Omniscient God knows more than finite jimmy.

Yes, please tell me the good reasons for child molesters, genocide, killer earthquakes and the countless other bad things that happen every day. Oh, only God knows that, right? Horse crap, the truth is there is no reason for anything. Things just happen. All we can do is live the best we can and try to take care of the ones we love.

Very elementary. It is because God gave man free choice to do as he wishes. The sole purpose of that is to show man how corrupt in nature man is without God. The promise to those who believe is that He shall show them how good life can be under His leadership.
But even if that were not the case, then you would still have to see the truth in the fact that man is inherently evil, not God.

God created the universe. He did not make it to act against its very own nature. That being that when you have a molten core with a crust for a surface the earth itself will shift according to its nature. God does not need to interfere at all.

Men blame all manner of things on God. Even the the weather. Even though we know how warm air reacts with cold air some blame God when a storm arises? And then turn around and with the same breath and say man is causing global warming? Then it is man who has caused the storm.? If Nature does what nature does, we do what we do and God does what God does. God made man for His pleasure. We did not make God for ours. So why should we demand that He stop things from happening? And who are we to tell creation how to behave?

But for those of us who believe in a living loving God, we also believe in what is presented to us as His word. And if you believe His word, you also believe there is an evil entity called the Devil, who leads all mankind astray from goodness and righteousness. And the devil orchestrate tragedy in the life of mankind on many levels.

Oh so God has everything under control then Zip? Sorry I disagree, an all-knowing, all-powerful loving being would not allow the cruelty and suffering that occurs on a daily basis.

Even if there is a God I think He forgot about us eons ago.

Now who can't see the forest?

When your little child throws a fit, cries, thinks it's the end of the world, and is generally devastated because you tell them they can't have anymore candy... That's their reality because that's their scope of understanding.
You do it because it's what's best for them at the moment, or best for them in the long run.

Comprende?

Nope. I don't live my life based on ancient myths. I am in the here and now. Believe however you choose, as long as your beliefs don't in any way constrict my freedoms.

What Jimmie said!

Nope. I don't live my life based on ancient myths. I am in the here and now. Believe however you choose, as long as your beliefs don't in any way constrict my freedoms.

Same to you
Believe what you want as long as it doesn't cause harm

Imagine if Palin was lesbian????/?/??when our economy goes deep into the shitter and you and yur kin git hungry......Eat That Rich!

Because you don't know of a good reason for something, doesn't mean there isn't a good reason for it. To conclude, however, that because you don't know of a good reason, there can't be one, wreaks of a God complex. Who says you aren't religious?! Smile

Just like a baby receiving life saving stitches without anesthesia thinks the doctor is a cruel barbarian, the atheist thinks all bad circumstances, if attributed to God, must mean God has bad intentions. Yet the end result from the doctor's perspective is he just saved the baby's life. Perhaps there's more to what is going on than you want to see?

Jams...you are the worst kind of Sophist. What you say is just Bulls*t. You were given a perfectly just argument.... Any just God would not allow this suffering to happen...now the burden of proof is on you to show why this is not true, you can't just discount the premise on the grounds because there might be a better answer out there somewhere...
And the doctor giving life saving stitches with out anesthesia is not only a barbarian but a cruel fool regardless if he saved the baby or not.
I hate this pseudo intellectual BS.

Yes, please tell me the good reasons for child molesters, genocide, killer earthquakes and the countless other bad things that happen every day. Oh, only God knows that, right? Horse crap, the truth is there is no reason for anything. Things just happen. All we can do is live the best we can and try to take care of the ones we love.

Very elementary. It is because God gave man free choice to do as he wishes. The sole purpose of that is to show man how corrupt in nature man is without God. The promise to those who believe is that He shall show them how good life can be under His leadership.
But even if that were not the case, then you would still have to see the truth in the fact that man is inherently evil, not God.

God created the universe. He did not make it to act against its very own nature. That being that when you have a molten core with a crust for a surface the earth itself will shift according to its nature. God does not need to interfere at all.

Men blame all manner of things on God. Even the the weather. Even though we know how warm air reacts with cold air some blame God when a storm arises? And then turn around and with the same breath and say man is causing global warming? Then it is man who has caused the storm.? If Nature does what nature does, we do what we do and God does what God does. God made man for His pleasure. We did not make God for ours. So why should we demand that He stop things from happening? And who are we to tell creation how to behave?

But for those of us who believe in a living loving God, we also believe in what is presented to us as His word. And if you believe His word, you also believe there is an evil entity called the Devil, who leads all mankind astray from goodness and righteousness. And the devil orchestrate tragedy in the life of mankind on many levels.

Smile,