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#132084 by RGMixProject
Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:51 pm
Its the "Make it happen to save face policy"

#132085 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:58 pm
this is too sad. no one has realized they have replaced their own resiliency with dependency. dependency of and at the hands of some one else. your government. global government? you have to be insane.

wait till you see what you have in store for all that need a government to protect you as you pee. how about house to house searches for pot?

amazing, all good things in society come from the individual, not from the few that desire to control the individual.

i am shocked when i read people defending their positions that they have been spoon fed.

charlie rangel a ny congressman was censored today,17 years of telling you how much to pay your taxes as head of the house ways and means committee.
he didn't pay his taxes.
wesley snipes, didn't pay his taxes either. he is going to jail for 3 years.

you want justice and security and you keep trusting a government that will send a rich man to jail faster then a member of the ruling elite.

you all gotta be kidding. :(

#132088 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:13 am
Well, according to the article, our citizens are being subjected to unnecessary, invasive, embarrassing, & possibly dangerous scanning procedures, while the real issues, like ppl hacking into Defense Dept computers, are being ignored...all so some ppl in our gov't have personal interest in selling those damned scanning machines at a hefty profit. Can you say "conflict of interest?" Can you say "criminal conflict of interest?"

Gee...who's making $ on our "safety?" The scanners, which many ppl wiould understandably opt for, will quite possibly MISS the bombs like the underwear bomber's, but you would just go along like sheep, & say, "sure, if it's to make me safer," right?

There are questions that need asking, & probably ppl that need prosecuting, & our citizenry needs to know that this is just another scam at our expense!

#132089 by KLUGMO
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:17 am
[b]Oct 31 2010 is that recent enough for you to know they are
trying all the time. Don't think this hasn't been attempted in the USA.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2010/10/ ... e-ii-1.php

Nobody is strip searching at will, that's ridiculous.
They only do that if there is an indication of something hidden.
I will be flying to my brothers in Alaska in July and if they think anybody
on that plane is questionable or hiding something even me. Strip-um.
I want to know that I am gonna get there and back.
If I got to the airport and an official got everyone's attention and
proclaimed that nobody on this flight will be checked for weapons, bombs,
and none of the luggage would be checked either. None of the flight attendants and pilots and luggage handlers or even mechanics will
be observed or checked.
What do you really think the people would do. Rejoice? Right.
Wake up. I guess you guys don't get up in the air much. There are
no second chances up there.

Do you really believe that thousands of security people are frisking
and stripping people and looking at x-rays of thousands of bodies every
day and there superiors are doing it to train the public to be compliant
or to change phils lifestyle?

C-mon guys quit living in the 60s mentally. The world has changed.
There are people out there that want to kill ALL of us. They are smart
and they are backed with millions of dollars and lots of technology.
There is uranium floating around the world and nobody keeps track of it.
Whats it gonna take to bring you into reality? Did you ever think that
maybe it's time to earn our freedom over again.
Maybe we have to constantly re-earn our freedom over the decades.

phil, you still havn't said how You would safegard us.
Last edited by KLUGMO on Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

#132091 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:21 am
Like I said, klug - if you're that scared, stay the f*ck home, & let the rest of us live free in this fine country, where we're supposed to be able to do just that, cuz your agoraphobia should in no way impact upon anyone else's life.

#132093 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:25 am
Here you go, Klugmo - let's strip search ppl shopping, too, cuz they might be stealing, right? Or carrying bombs on their person! We can't allow anyone the opportunity to do anything wrong, can we? They might be hiding bombs in their fat!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... le-7820596

Thanks for the article, Nav. Verrrrrrrry interesting!

#132094 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:31 am
You wanna be free of terrorism? Do this - any country that sends us a terrorist gets bombed BIGGLY. Do it twice, & the entire world, Pakistan, & Saudi Arabia & Iran & Iraq & North Korea included, would police THEIR citizens until the sh*t stops. Show them what true terror is, & it will stop.

#132095 by KLUGMO
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:34 am
I am flying, I am out and enjoying my freedom. Your
paranoid attitude makes you afraid of a pat down or cop
pulling you over.

The difference is I understand the validity of what's happening.
You are a blamer. Everything is about taking something from you.
There are bad people in gov. but this about saving lives not some
scanner conspiracy. Yes somebody makes money off the scanners
but that is not the reason for having them. If you stop bombs from
going on planes you save lives period and planes are obviously a
tool bad guys want to use.

#132096 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:34 am
Are we all that afraid of dying. All this crap yet we can't secure our own borders.
We even have people suggesting we should make mexico another state, so we don't have a border problem. VERY FUNNY. [global]

I want all you good Americans to submit to the will of the few instead of standing tall.
GOODBYE AMERICA.

#132098 by KLUGMO
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:41 am
Every wrong thing that somebody does in this Country you
turn it into a blanket statement that applies to all the cops or all
the government.

Now you suggest we blow-up everyone that is in the Country where the
bad guys come from. WOW-JUST WOW

#132099 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:41 am
They wanted to alter American life, Klugmo.

They obviously beat you.

I would get an any plane going anywhere in this country without the pat-downs & forced irradiation. I WILL drive anywhere in this country without being accosted, or I will kick some ass, one way or another.
I would get on a bus without the invasive BS. Don't ask me to bow to a terrorist, or a gov'tal victimizer, either, ESPECIALLY when these tactics are desigbed to make us all fear our gov't, to force us all to toe the line. SCREW DAT, man!.

This is purely unConstitutional, & was one of the reasons we fought to break from the monarchy to become a free nation. I will NOT return to those times out of propagandised fear-frenzy.

#132100 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:44 am
KLUGMO wrote:Every wrong thing that somebody does in this Country you
turn it into a blanket statement that applies to all the cops or all
the government.

Now you suggest we blow-up everyone that is in the Country where the
bad guys come from. WOW-JUST WOW


Yer damned right, bub. War is hell. You start one with the USA, you SHOULD get your country bombed to hell & back, ESPECIALLY when we KNOW you have practicing terrorist training facilities within your borders, a la Pakistan & Saudi Arabia.

#132101 by KLUGMO
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:47 am
Glen I for one believe that so much bad has come across that Mex.
border that taking the Country and cleansing it of all the cartels and
implementing true democracy would be cheaper than what the drugs
are costing us.

#132102 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:49 am
KLUGMO wrote:I am flying, I am out and enjoying my freedom. Your
paranoid attitude makes you afraid of a pat down or cop
pulling you over.

The difference is I understand the validity of what's happening.
You are a blamer. Everything is about taking something from you.
There are bad people in gov. but this about saving lives not some
scanner conspiracy. Yes somebody makes money off the scanners
but that is not the reason for having them. If you stop bombs from
going on planes you save lives period and planes are obviously a
tool bad guys want to use.


Klugmo I don't want to scare you , but you keep giving up your freedom, because you expect some one else to protect you. Now reach down between your legs, feel that, you do have some balls. Now stop counting on some one else to protect them. I can't worry about a few bombers that may strike once in a while.

I can worry about a government that will use this as a tool for TOTAL CONTROL!!

#132103 by philbymon
Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:50 am
Or, I guess we could all go your route, klug, & say "Yes'm Massah," & shuck & jive through every damned hoop they make us jump through while they continue to allow the theft of our jobs & overpricing of necessary goods for no reason other than price-gouging, & pay extra taxes for all of these "services" while we're at it!

You GO, boy!

Sorry, but I ain't a kiss-ass, & I ain't bowing to a terrorist, & I ain't giving up another freedom just cuz you're scared of some made-up boogeyman.

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