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#131187 by philbymon
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:28 pm
Misinformed much?

greater alertness
better digestion

#131188 by neanderpaul
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:31 pm
If you think tobacco doesn't kill you are lying to yourself.

#131189 by gbheil
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:32 pm
Slacker G wrote:
sanshouheil wrote:Keep going down this slippery slope and it will be illegal to fart in your own home.


Oh. I thought that was already illegal. :)



Just drowns Polar Bears ... thats all.

#131190 by Mike Nobody
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:32 pm
You can't seriously be equating a dirty house with poisoning your kids. IMHO, trying to stop child abuse or neglect isn't "meddling." Eventually, everyone draws the line somewhere. Just because your parents did something to you doesn't make it right either.

#131191 by gbheil
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:35 pm
neanderpaul wrote:If you think tobacco doesn't kill you are lying to yourself.


I believe it does.

But I also am aware that the statistical research simply does not bear this fact out.

Only a moderate percentage of people whom smoke their whole lives die of cancer. ( forget the article's reference number )

And only a slightly smaller percentage of people whom have never smoked do.

#131192 by Mike Nobody
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:36 pm
sanshouheil wrote:My love of liberty and the sanctity of the family unit over rides my love of children I guess.

Social Services ?

Don't make me cry. Those bastards made me sign out a " special needs " child to his recently paroled mother and drug dealing father from a children's care center.

I told them ( the case workers, two of them ) " Your making a mistake"
" These people are only interested in the little boys income from the state "
I was told I was "obstructing justice for the child belonged with his parents."

He was locked in a closet, starved and tortured with cigarette burns for two weeks before he died.

Social services my ass.


Whoever told you that is liable for everything that happened to that child. What did you do about it? Nothing? Did any of those lazy bureaucrats go to jail? I think not.

#131193 by gbheil
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:39 pm
Here is another little tid bit.

What is the co morbidity that most limits healing and is the greatest threat to life ??


Obesity.

Fat kills ! It is number one !

Think I'll pass on those Twinkies and have a cigar instead. :wink:

#131194 by neanderpaul
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:44 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:You can't seriously be equating a dirty house with poisoning your kids. IMHO, trying to stop child abuse or neglect isn't "meddling." Eventually, everyone draws the line somewhere. Just because your parents did something to you doesn't make it right either.

When houses get dirty enough they are actually very poisonous. I saw an episode of hoarders on a&e website. Boy had wretched asthma from the mold caused by the parents hoarding.

#131195 by gbheil
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:45 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:
sanshouheil wrote:My love of liberty and the sanctity of the family unit over rides my love of children I guess.

Social Services ?

Don't make me cry. Those bastards made me sign out a " special needs " child to his recently paroled mother and drug dealing father from a children's care center.

I told them ( the case workers, two of them ) " Your making a mistake"
" These people are only interested in the little boys income from the state "
I was told I was "obstructing justice for the child belonged with his parents."

He was locked in a closet, starved and tortured with cigarette burns for two weeks before he died.

Social services my ass.


Whoever told you that is liable for everything that happened to that child. What did you do about it? Nothing? Did any of those lazy bureaucrats go to jail? I think not.


Sorry ... you are wrong. The FEDERAL Employee's whom placed that child back with his parents are not liable by law.

I did my part as an RN when I registered my written objection.
The mother went into a psych institution. Her husband fled back to Mexico.

This sh*t happens all the time. The general public does not hear about it.
And the information is " privileged " and protected by HIPPA.

#131196 by neanderpaul
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:46 pm
sanshouheil wrote:Here is another little tid bit.

What is the co morbidity that most limits healing and is the greatest threat to life ??


Obesity.

Fat kills ! It is number one !

Think I'll pass on those Twinkies and have a cigar instead. :wink:

For real! Fat is killing and costing us. But I won't choose the lesser of 2 evils.

#131197 by neanderpaul
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:50 pm
My wife worked in the nicu. Those stories of abusive parents like George told kill me. Stabbing pains. I truly love children. I always have. Even when I was little babies and I were drawn to each other.

#131198 by gbheil
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:50 pm
Actually I've not had a cigar in three weeks now. :D

Want to get back to some level of martial arts training maybe even teach again. :wink:

#131199 by neanderpaul
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:51 pm
8) cool George!

#131200 by Mike Nobody
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:51 pm
sanshouheil wrote: "
Sorry ... you are wrong. The FEDERAL Employee's whom placed that child back with his parents are not liable by law.

I did my part as an RN when I registered my written objection.
The mother went into a psych institution. Her husband fled back to Mexico.

This sh*t happens all the time. The general public does not hear about it.
And the information is " privileged " and protected by HIPPA.


Sounds like BS to me. Dead kid and the people who put him there not liable? I think not.

#131201 by Mike Nobody
Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:53 pm
neanderpaul wrote:My wife worked in the nicu. Those stories of abusive parents like George told kill me. Stabbing pains. I truly love children. I always have. Even when I was little babies and I were drawn to each other.


Paul, you have a child fetish and it is not healthy.

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