General Music Chat

I think if anyone here had a loved one on one of the planes
that hit the twin towers or Pentagon or any other plane that was
blown into a million pieces around the world by the scum. You
would think a little differently about this subject.

Perhaps but a father traveling with his family forced to watch his wife and daughter being touch in places that in any other context would amount to sexual assault is not something he or anyone else should take laying down.

Just because the government mandates it makes it OK? Maybe it’s safer but do we have to give up our dignity for safety? They take our money, our liberties and our rights what else is left for the people to give up.

This policy is so over the top IMO heck they even check pilots the same way, how stupid is that, if a pilot is up to no good do they really think is going to smuggle a bomb or a gun on his own flight? His flying the plane he can kill the passengers simply by crashing it.

You need to be alive to have dignity.

You need to be alive to have dignity.

We could lock you in a nice safe dungeon somewhere, if it makes you feel more secure. The Soviet Union kept people secure.

Freedom is not free and many baby boomers are now finding that out.
As they drive their Escalade to the airport . They know they will be searched. Everything they have will be looked through and it is a small price to pay to guarantee arrival. I want them to do random searches
of airport employees to.

The bitching and anger should be focused on those that politicise the war.
Our military is trained to kill the enemy and they can but they are
controlled by suits that deal away their lives.

Million dollar toilet seats and bridges to nowhere.
No armor on the Hummers.

Billion dollar planes.
Men with no flack jackets.

Then they float away in their golden parachutes.

Politics is the problem but is also the answer.

These problems are huge but a bigger problem that is only just
showing its ugly head is the politicising of AIR, WATER, FOOD.
Those implications are planetary.

To drive a car is a privilege not a right.
To ride in a multi ton plane over the heads of
millions of Americans (you included) is also
a privilege, not a right and like immediately
after 911 it can be taken away. A government
responsibility is to protect the citizenry.[/b]

I disagree Klug the government gives you the right to drive and that is as it should be (you are the one in control) However when you are flying YOU ARE A CUSTOMER and the government does not have the right to tell you what you can buy from what buisiness and how in the HELL you should be treated.
Me thinks we should put the blame where it lies and quit being the pu**y's we are in this country. 2+2=4 folks
Its my opinion that 100% of the folks that attacked the U.S. on 911 were Muslim Yes Muslim! Sorry folks but its a war called JYHAD! Wake the HELL up.
We are going to pull pastey crackers and ole folks off to the side all so we don't piss off the muslims! When In the HELL are WE Americans GONNA GROW A SET O BALLS! I say we start pulling all the RAG HEADS aside and say "sir I am going to start with rubbing you in the crotch area to be sure you don't have a bomb in that rag you call PANTY'S Oh and by the way I had a BACON cheeseburger for lunch! YEAH BUDDY!

I disagree Klug the government gives you the right to drive and that is as it should be (you are the one in control) However when you are flying YOU ARE A CUSTOMER and the government does not have the right to tell you what you can buy from what buisiness and how in the HELL you should be treated.
Me thinks we should put the blame where it lies and quit being the pu**y's we are in this country. 2+2=4 folks
Its my opinion that 100% of the folks that attacked the U.S. on 911 were Muslim Yes Muslim! Sorry folks but its a war called JYHAD! Wake the HELL up.
We are going to pull pastey crackers and ole folks off to the side all so we don't piss off the muslims! When In the HELL are WE Americans GONNA GROW A SET O BALLS! I say we start pulling all the RAG HEADS aside and say "sir I am going to start with rubbing you in the crotch area to be sure you don't have a bomb in that rag you call PANTY'S Oh and by the way I had a BACON cheeseburger for lunch! YEAH BUDDY!

I understand what your saying J. And in essence I agree. Profiling is a most valuable investigative tool. It's about mathematical probability not racism.

But if I was running the show I'd not trust the loopholes that profile investigation has inherent.

No, probably just as likely to get blown up by some patsy white blond upset over polar bears having to swim.

The people blown up in the Oklahoma bombing are just as
dead as the ones from 911.

All things inherently deadly usually are controled.
cars
guns
planes
drugs

The people blown up in the Oklahoma bombing are just as
dead as the ones from 911.

Thank you for making my point.

Okay lets talk numbers folks. As best I remember Timothy McVey and his group killed some 300 people check it! His ass was caught and so was his group imprisoned FOR LIFE and Mr. McVey PUT TO DEATH! This Boy was a RELIGIOUS Fanatic! So Was The 19 Muslim Terrorist that killed 3000 plus on 911.
Sans and Klug YOUR ATTITUDE is IMO what is wrong with this country. I love you both but please GROW some NUTS.
What upsets me is do you FOLKS out there need to understand WHY you are SO PISSED OFF? I know I am PISSED off because no one listens to me and the reason why no one listens to us average everyday JOE'S is because we don"t speak up Thats why the Rag Heads that don't kid yourself DANCED IN THE STREETS on 911 are busy building the sh*t out of MOSQUE here in H-town and all over the country EVEN THUMBING THEIR NOSES at the conquering on 911 is because we are all a bunch pu**y'S!
Thats why OUR GOVERNMENT is pulling pastey white CRACKERS and old WOMEN aside from getting on flights (essentially harrassing our own people) because we are the ones STUPID ENOUGH TO LET IT HAPPEN!

This Country is referred to as a melting pot for a reason.
We have fought,
English
German
Japanese
Italian
and others and all of those are now part of the American makeup.
We are all humans.
The fight is between the ears.

'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin