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Can anyone tell me the last time a corporation voted to raise taxes.
Can anyone tell me the last time a corporation had the the power to levy taxes and fines, penalties and the power to enforce the laws of the land.
Can anyone tell me why corporations make us a 14 trillion dollar economy.
Can anyone tell me why a Chinese economy that is state run and powered by 1.3 billion people only has an economy of 2 trillion. [US] [maybe 200 million workers]

It must be those evil corporations.

You know , the ones that create jobs, not destroy them.
Corporations don't create the laws, the government does. Tired , Out of work, Hungry, Can't feed your family,?

Stop blaming the corporations! Blame the government, what was supposed to be your government.

Don't get mad at the Government, get mad at your government. The government's not some faraway, faceless thing. It's made up of people, people you have the methods to contact at your disposal.

OOOHHHH I know.

I get disgusted at all the people that don't.

I called up the congressional offices all the time for about a year, but I haven't called for a while.


Hm, my representative's local office is walking distance. I haven't been in to see him in person since I was 15, maybe it's time to go again?

GOOD FOR YOU, Your picture doesn't show it, but at least you have some balls. Notice I didn't use a spanish word.

From our federal government: There is NO inflation! Therefore there will be no "COLA" We will however send everyone on SS a $250 check. [cost of living adjustment]

If there is no inflation, then why is everything going up?

Then the only reason is TAXATION.

"The power to tax is the power to destroy." Thomas Jefferson.

These people trusted with the the faith, have betrayed the very tenants of God and the very basic tenants of decency and love that OUR great nation was founded upon.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ".

When corporations put dangerous waste into the ground, sea and air they are evil.

When corporations put additives in food to prolong their shelf life at the expense of people's health they are evil.

When corporations close companies and put people who have worked there for thirty years out on the street they are evil.

Without the laws enacted by our government evil would persist. And these laws take money to enforce. Who better to pay the largest share of the tax burden then those same companies?

You'll get it someday, but if not who cares?

I knew you would say that.
Yet every thing you are , everything you own is because of those corporations..

Now you want the government to bail you out. Send you back to living in a cave . You still believe all that bullshit. Just leave me out of it and ,, And ,,AND emigrate to a country that fits you better. HEY how about
GREECE.

Get the F;U;C;K; out of MY COUNTRY . Think WE are joking.

No I think you ARE a joke. Why don't you emigrate to the moon, Alice?

GOOD FOR YOU, Your picture doesn't show it, but at least you have some balls. Notice I didn't use a spanish word.

From our federal government: There is NO inflation! Therefore there will be no "COLA" We will however send everyone on SS a $250 check. [cost of living adjustment]

If there is no inflation, then why is everything going up?

Then the only reason is TAXATION.

"The power to tax is the power to destroy." Thomas Jefferson.

These people trusted with the the faith, have betrayed the very tenants of God and the very basic tenants of decency and love that OUR great nation was founded upon.

hey, what's wrong with my picture?

and do you really want a picture with my balls showing?

and do you really want a picture with my balls showing?

BAHAHA!

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ".

When corporations put dangerous waste into the ground, sea and air they are evil.

When corporations put additives in food to prolong their shelf life at the expense of people's health they are evil.

When corporations close companies and put people who have worked there for thirty years out on the street they are evil.

Without the laws enacted by our government evil would persist. And these laws take money to enforce. Who better to pay the largest share of the tax burden then those same companies?

You'll get it someday, but if not who cares?

So what % of American businesses would you classify as evil?

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ".

When corporations put dangerous waste into the ground, sea and air they are evil.

When corporations put additives in food to prolong their shelf life at the expense of people's health they are evil.

When corporations close companies and put people who have worked there for thirty years out on the street they are evil.

Without the laws enacted by our government evil would persist. And these laws take money to enforce. Who better to pay the largest share of the tax burden then those same companies?

You'll get it someday, but if not who cares?

So what % of American businesses would you classify as evil?

I dunno the percentage, but I'll jump in here, Chris, with a few names of truly EVIL corporations,

Gerber (baby food) sent huge quantities of tainted baby food, which they KNEW was tainted, to Africa for "relief." - also falsely advertised "all natural" food products

Monsanto - need I say more?

Merck Pharmaceuticals - yeah, they knew about Vioxx

Lowes - yes, they really refused to pay that overtime to their employees, just like Wal Mart did

GE - tried to control the wind energy market with a trust scam, sex discrimination, Fed Securities Laws violations, faulty products remain in use like the CT scanners that cause brain damage, baldness, memory loss, etc. (which they knew about)

Fox News - yep, they WON their lawsuit to continue to misinform the public

Aracoma - coal co responsible for deaths & burn victims, because they won't follow industry standards in the area of safety

Massey - coal co responsible for deaths due to safety violations

Kraft - misleading advertising, unhealthy "food"

GM, Ford, Chrysler - American co's with a history of selling unsafe cars that they KNEW were unsafe, just like Toyota just did last year

I guess what I'm saying, Chris & Glen, is that if you can name a large corporation, you have named an entity that needs gov't oversight, to protect us all from its corporate interests. Hell, that probably goes for small corporations, too. Note that I didn't even touch on the ones like the big banks, the insurance ripoffs, securities traders, hospitals, the electric co's or big oil.

ANY corporation, by definition, is evil, in that it has one goal, & one goal only - & it ISN'T to "produce the best product for the price." Employees don't matter. Customers don't matter. Health & safety & environmental concerns & human rights & even LAWS are for other folks to worry about, because the ONLY goal of the cprp is to rake in the bucks. I don't give a damn how many of these fine co's give lip service to any of the above concerns or violations, cuz at their core, they only exist to make money for their investors. For the most part, those investors don't know or care how the money is made, only that it IS made, whatever the cost to others. Anywhere there is no soul, no conscience, & no personal accountability, that is EVIL in my book. Put it on a f*cking leash or in a cage. Monitor it carefully. Keep it from doing harm. THAT is what we have a gov't for - to protect us from evil, & as fas as I can tell, we suffer far more from our enemies within like these outlaw outfits, than we do the muslim hordes or the terrorist bombs. These are just more insidious, & come at us with the smarmy smiles & offers of services & products that kill or maim or take advantage of us or steal from us or otherwise harm us.

I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my
savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc., I called the Suicide
Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan , and when I told them I was
suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck.

Don't get mad at the Government, get mad at your government. The government's not some faraway, faceless thing. It's made up of people, people you have the methods to contact at your disposal.

Or... VOTE OUT OF OFFICE!!!

I believe the Founders of this nation established the court system as the branch of government necessary to deal with employer/employee/marketplace problems, NOT Federal intrusion and oversight. Statism is statism, fascism is fascism and America cannot be America if the federal government continues to operate in a role the Founders NEVER intended.

Corporations may do evil things. Let Americans handle that with their wallets, their choice of employment, the courts, BUT do NOT allow the federal government to have oversight and control of corporations or you have socialism/fascism/statism, which is tyranny. It will always be tyranny.

Freedom and liberty come with prices. It is an experiment. The Great Experiment. Americans will have to learn and relearn what responsible citizenship means. If they hand responsibility to the federal government for that which they should have themselves they shall (are) lose their freedom and liberty and God given rights and pursuit of happiness to the whims of political power mongers dressed up as wonderful benefactors.