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The only good criminal is a dead criminal.

In Japan, if you do a crime and your family doesn't come and take care of you, you die. "Now thats family values"

Simple.

If you take away the yakuza fighting each other, Japan has the lowest crime rate in the world.

No, but they have the highest rate of suicides.

The only good criminal is a dead criminal.

In Japan, if you do a crime and your family doesn't come and take care of you, you die. "Now thats family values"

Simple.

If you take away the yakuza fighting each other, Japan has the lowest crime rate in the world.

No, but they have the highest rate of suicides.

I do not understand suicides, all I know about that is, it makes me very sad.

The "traditional" Japanese morality codes remain largely based on Bushido.
The warriors code of responsibility.
I don't know if it's still this way, but they used to sell alcohol in vending machines. Those whom were not allowed to drink by law were expected to "just not buy it" because it was the right thing to do.

The "traditional" Japanese morality codes remain largely based on Bushido.
The warriors code of responsibility.
I don't know if it's still this way, but they used to sell alcohol in vending machines. Those whom were not allowed to drink by law were expected to "just not buy it" because it was the right thing to do.

"You put your pants on in the morning, and there's someone in them with you." - Gung Ho (1986)

The only good criminal is a dead criminal.

In Japan, if you do a crime and your family doesn't come and take care of you, you die. "Now thats family values"

Simple.

If you take away the yakuza fighting each other, Japan has the lowest crime rate in the world.

Yeah, cuz they value something called 'honor'
At least among other japanese

Bull sh*t.

And I mean that with all due respect.

Criminals are criminals because they have no respect for themselves or others.

Good decent honest men don't become violent criminals just because the economy is unstable.

More entitlement bull sh*t.

Accept responsibility.

MAN UP

That is the only solution.

OOOOOOHHHH! We're gonna have the "nature vs. nurture" debate, huh? You will lose. Doesn't matter if you choose "nature over nurture" or vice-versa. You will lose.

No debate needed.
Each man is responsible for his own behavior.
Period.

The rest is psychobable bullshit.

I'm posting the intro to my autobiography (Jigsaw Man) and it will tell you a bit about my thoughts on environmental influences on the psyche... at least from my history and perspective.

I stand on never giving your leaders the right of capitol punishment though; it cost less to house inmates than we spend on not growing corn and upscale meeting accommodations for our representatives.

I've known a few people who went to prison, quite a few, and they didn't enjoy it. It hardened them pretty bad.

Once you're on record, you can't vote, have difficulty getting hired, and so the cycle continues. It's too easy to break parole. There's not enough programs to help people when they get out. They just get released with a few bucks and thrown into society.

Sure, some people do belong there, and they're no good. But some people just get caught up in something where a quick decision sends them behind bars.

Police (not all of them)these days are no help either. Some of these rookies just love to charge people with everything they can think of.

true words

I watch Lockup too and the one thing I notice is how stupid those criminals are.

A good education system followed by an employment plan and the majority of crime would be gone in two generations......


Unfortunately I don't see it happening soon......

more true words stranger.
Hey it's not like our leaders are just stupid or unaware of, or can't fix these problems; when you have the best minds and money available most any problem can be solved. They have had both of these for decades, yet the problem gets steadily worse... therefore reason says it can only be by design!

How many people are in prison who really didn't commit any crime? Tens of thousands of them. My definition of crime is harming somebody or somebody's property. What is my definition of harming somebody? Assault, battery, rape, murder, physical harm in general. What is my definition of harming somebody's property? Stealing, torching your house, ruining property where it cannot be used for the purpose it was intended, etc. Take somebody who gets thrown in prison for smoking and possessing weed. Did that person harm somebody else, did that person damage property? NO. There are tens of thousands of people who IMO didn't commit a crime and are in prison. And in prison they learn how to be better prisoners precisely because when they get out they will be hard pressed to land a legitimate job. We have to look at our legal system and decide for example that getting drunk (and not harming people and property) is essentially the same as smoking weed (and not harming people and property). As far as capital punishment it has NEVER been proven to be a deterrent to others not to commit crimes. It certainly deters the person you're executing from committing crimes. Many people in prison both on death row and otherwise have been proven innocent later. I don't think we should ever execute anybody. There's always a chance they are innocent. INstead I say we make prisons much harsher. We bring back chain gangs. We show young people OVER AND OVER how harsh prison life is. We eliminate the possibility of parole for very violent offenders. How many times has a violent offender when released committed the same or worse crimes. I say throw away the key on violent offenders and free those inmates who really haven't committed any crimes against people or property.

How many people are in prison who really didn't commit any crime? Tens of thousands of them. My definition of crime is harming somebody or somebody's property. What is my definition of harming somebody? Assault, battery, rape, murder, physical harm in general. What is my definition of harming somebody's property? Stealing, torching your house, ruining property where it cannot be used for the purpose it was intended, etc. Take somebody who gets thrown in prison for smoking and possessing weed. Did that person harm somebody else, did that person damage property? NO. There are tens of thousands of people who IMO didn't commit a crime and are in prison. And in prison they learn how to be better prisoners precisely because when they get out they will be hard pressed to land a legitimate job. We have to look at our legal system and decide for example that getting drunk (and not harming people and property) is essentially the same as smoking weed (and not harming people and property). As far as capital punishment it has NEVER been proven to be a deterrent to others not to commit crimes. It certainly deters the person you're executing from committing crimes. Many people in prison both on death row and otherwise have been proven innocent later. I don't think we should ever execute anybody. There's always a chance they are innocent. INstead I say we make prisons much harsher. We bring back chain gangs. We show young people OVER AND OVER how harsh prison life is. We eliminate the possibility of parole for very violent offenders. How many times has a violent offender when released committed the same or worse crimes. I say throw away the key on violent offenders and free those inmates who really haven't committed any crimes against people or property.

OR we could drown them, then burn them, then turn them into salt.

Where did I put that instruction book.

The first thing that should be done is legalize Pot and prostitution, The "moralistic" crimes. There's a significant portion of the prison population right there. It would free up police resources and then the criminals wouldn't be the ones getting rich. And some of those dollars would be going to taxes.

The first thing that should be done is legalize Pot and prostitution, The "moralistic" crimes. There's a significant portion of the prison population right there. It would free up police resources and then the criminals wouldn't be the ones getting rich. And some of those dollars would be going to taxes.

Couldn't agree more. You cannot EVER have effective legislation based on morality. We tried that during Prohibition. A lot of good that did. People drank MORE during Prohibition. It was the cool thing to do. I say collect taxes from legal pot sales and use those dollars to better educate our young people. As soon as they get into grade school they should have to take field trips to prisons. Part of my driver education training was watching an absolutely horrifying film showing the results of car accidents. I was SCARED to death of driving fast after viewing that. We may not eliminate the drug cartels but we will take a huge part of the profit motive away from them. The justification of keeping marijuana illegal that it is a "gateway drug" makes me laugh. Life is a "gateway drug." SH*T happens after you are born. Whether pot is legal or not is irrelevant...