Music Industry Discussion

I wouldn't KNOW the names of any porno movie, so I am innocent in that matter. YOU are the one preaching and trying to shove your views on everyone. Do you OWN this site, bec. if you DO, then you can tell me what I can or cannot say. You sure are monitoring this site for any Christian that comes along the pike and might mention their religious views and WHY does that upset you so much? I did not TELL YOU that you could not state your own views.

I am a Christian and am a Christian artist, and I have just as much RIGHT to be here as you. I have the right to say what I did, and YOU don't have the right to say that I cannot express myself as a Christian Artist here. Just because YOU know what sounds like a porno movie title, does NOT mean that everyone would know, especially me. So, I think YOU are imposing your OWN views here, and I am sure it is obvious to anyone who reads this thread.

If you post your music here, I also have the right to do so, so why are you on your soapbox? Just remember, some people don't WATCH Porno, as obviously you do. But then again, am I "allowed" to say that here, or are YOU going to police me, once again?

In no way have I tried to stop you from voicing your opinion. I merely voiced my own, which differs. I'm not trying to start up an argument.

The way you present yourself makes me uncomfortable - not because I am opposed to christianity - not because I have any guilt - not because I have any opposition to using the word "god" or anything like that. You make me uncomfortable with your militant terms, & your in your face approach to your favorite subject, when faced with someone who looks at things differently.

You have no idea what I base my life or my values upon. You assume that, because I'm not jumping on your bandwagon, that I base my life on things other than your bible. The fact is that I used to be one of you, but it was attitudes like your own that turned me away from it. I see no reason to fill my life with that much negativity, combativeness, or paranoia.

I wasn't the one who brought up the subject of porno, &, if you were smarter, I think you would have avoided it altogether.

Just don't accuse me of mocking you or attacking you when I voice a differing opinion. That, I did not do, nor was it my intent. If you can't have a decent, respectful conversation, then, imho, you don't belong in this forum, which is basically full of decent, respectful ppl. It seems as if you are more than a little negative, paranoid, & confrontational, to me. Doesn't look all that spiritual, or appealing, for that matter.

Although I cannot in good conscience wish you luck in finding others like yourself, I will offer hope & prayer that you can calm down a bit, & find those things in this life that are reason to celebrate & be thankful, & back off on the negatives & the paranoia & the confrontations.

I am staying on this group and this forum, thank you. If you don't think your own response was confrontational, however, you are deceiving your own self. It seems that you have preconceived notions about Christians being pushovers, but that is not the case. Paul confronted Peter in public, and Jesus called the Pharisees wicked vipers. Perhaps you forgot that, if you used to be "one of us Christians."

I only RESPONDED to being judged as one of those "Christians." I guess you don't want blacks, or different races here either? Do you confront them this way? I doubt it, yet you do me, simply because I am different from you and I am Christian. You might want to check your Bible facts before saying that Christians are to lay down and be pushovers.

I believe that you were being confrontational, and I was responding. However, I am staying. I will not respond anymore to this type of posting.

You have made your point, but I ALSO have the right to express my views here. I don't agree with your point, since my whole existence is according to God's Word-the Bible, and yours is not. GOD is not YET outlawed in this country.
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We are all on our own journey, and the things I related, were for those who are on a similar journey with the Lord, as I am. If it is not for you, then disregard it.

My value system is the Bible. Yours is obviously something else, but you have the right to speak your opinion, just as I do. You, unlike me, immediately, after seeing I mentioned the word GOD, tried to mock me by bringing up PORNO.

I did NOT do that to you, and i think you "protest" too much. So, whose army are YOU in, protesting in this way? I simply pointed out how irrelevant your remark about PORNO was , to the SUBJECT I posted about God's Media Army. You were actually the one being militant and in attack mode, it was not me.

I have the right to mention GOD on here, but you don't have the right to MOCK and attack me because I choose to do so.

Martha Clayton Banfield

Best get used to it sister.
Nobody ever said testifying would be easy. These guys just punked you a little. Tell's me you may have hit a nerve. At least they read what you had to say.
Jesus got crucified for it. I'd say we're getting off easy.
Shout it from the roof tops baby ... but keep the S & W loaded.

Thanks for the headsup! Yeah, I figured I would at least get someone to listen to what I had to say, lol....and yes, I am getting used to it! I just didn't expect to cause such a ruckus from just that ONE little post. Yes, shows you it definitely hit a nerve.

Revelation 2:17: White Stone

http://www.myspace.com/whitestone11

It is exactly what we were told to expect.

I called you a jackass there..

I retract that comment, you are not a jackass, you are something worse.

random sidenote: You are, unless you are lying on your page, an American. What is this country coming to when you can't even name one porno? Do you not study history at all? How do you not know Deep Throat? It's politically relevant in recent history.

Once again, you have preconceived notions about me. Lol, I am not a "nursig home' candidate yet...here is my photo. So, see how off your judgement is...



I never came here and said that I was holier than thou, it is several of you folks who were on the defensive and assumed that, right from the start, because I called porno filth and trash. That is my OWN opinion.

You all must have thought I was violating your "rights" by mentioning religion here. Since there IS a category here for Christian Contemporary/Gospel music, I had the right to assume that there are some people here who follow Christ, and to ask. If not, there should BE no category, but there is one, so stop complaining about my mentioning Jesus or GOD, with a CAPITAL G. Unless they remove the CHRISTIAN Category, I have a reason to be here, and I won't be stifled about mentioning Jesus or God, in the meantime, unless I am removed or banned.

I did not come here to "judge" anyone, but I have a right to my own PERSONAL Opinion, and that is that I personally believe, as a woman, that porno does nothing to portray the reality of women. Those women are usually DRUGGED, and are getting PAID. Most of it is fake-DUH-they are ACTING, ACTING. Get it?

Do any of YOU have a wife, daughter or girlfriend that you LOVE? How would you feel if it was your MOTHER, or WIFE, daughter or girlfriend doing that for a living? Now, that is my own PERSONAL opinion, as a woman who has been damaged by pornography in relationships in the past. I know lots and lots of women who also feel this same way. You guys are on one end of the spectrum, but I am on the other, and as a woman, porno is a plague to all women.

Now, according to your expectation, I will go ahead and quote a little scripture, but it might surprise you...

According to my Bible, for ME to judge YOU, those who are admittedly not in Christ, would be a grave sin. 1 Corinthians Ch. 5 says that there are two divisions of JUDGING: I can ONLY judge those who also call themselves a brother/sister in Christ, but I CANNOT judge those who aren't, since only GOD is their judge. So, until you are born again, or profess Jesus, I cannot judge you.

However, as a woman, I can only tell you that porno is an evil and degrades all women. We are MORE than bodies, and sex objects. We are nurturers- we raise the kids, cook, mop, clean; we rock the babies when they are sick. We drive the kids to school, to ball practice, and we rub their little heads when they have a fever, and make them homemade soup, and we hold them when they cry....well at least that is my experience. So, don't judge WOMEN as just sex objects...we are MUCH MORE than that. We were created as the WHOLE PACKAGE, so don't judge us by just one aspect of who we are created to be by God.

Thanks everyone, for letting me speak my "opinion" here. Whether you like it or not, I am a woman, and I am speaking from a woman's point of view, and also from the point of view of being a woman who chooses to follow Christ.

I'm not ready for the nursing home, yet.






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Echh self-righteous coming on down to cast a disparaging eye at any and all.

In short, "faq off sister act". Whoopi Goldberg had you beat out of the box.

Sans I know and like, you I do not. You are so tight, you squeak when you walk.


When people complain about HOLIER THAN THOU, they mean you you stinking cretin escapee from a nursing home.

BOOOOM - that was my bible thrown down on the ground.

I bet you'd burn people at the stake and wear your white hood to church if you could.

You going to quote scripture now? Jehovah was here already and we sent him home (to get more beer).

I don't know why I expected anything different, you couldn't even write anything in your first post, jackass.

You may interact with me on the internet.

But you obviously don't know me.

At all.

For someone who knows so little about porn, you sure know a lot about it.

But...but...again, I ask -> who determines the definition of the word?

Is the "Song Of Solomon" porn? I think perhaps, by your modern definition, that something along those lines would indeed be considered so. After all, is he not singing of her physical attributes? Is that not demeaning to the modern female? By concentrating on the physical, is he not ignoring her higher qualities? How shallow & insulting! LOL

In order to have an army fighting evil, you must first judge those perpetrators of it that you will fight. Before doing that, you must judge what "evil" is.

"Now, according to your expectation, I will go ahead and quote a little scripture, but it might surprise you...

According to my Bible, for ME to judge YOU, those who are admittedly not in Christ, would be a grave sin. 1 Corinthians Ch. 5 says that there are two divisions of JUDGING: I can ONLY judge those who also call themselves a brother/sister in Christ, but I CANNOT judge those who aren't, since only GOD is their judge. So, until you are born again, or profess Jesus, I cannot judge you."

Where's the quote? As I recall, those ppl who CLAIMED to be following the rules of the church were told by Jesus that they weren't supposed to judge others, or, specifically, to stone a particular woman. I don't remember if the woman who was about to be stoned was of the faith or not, but I'm assuming she was, since she was involved in the close-knit, religious-based community. I don't see how you would have the right to judge anyone, whether he is "in Christ" or not. I think, perhaps, that you are a bit confused on this.

Many of the chapters of the NT show in-fighting amongst the disciples, themselves. If they wouldn't or couldn't agree on the basics of the religion that they helped to create with the son of god as their personal, living, hands-on guide, I don't see how anyone else can say they have the answers to life's questions through the word, which is thousands of years old, & without that perfect mortal's guiding hand in their personal lives.

To want to start an "army" to fight the evils in the world, you need to first have a cohesive, well-defined view of what "evil" is. I simply don't trust any man or woman to be able to make that determination without some sort of self-interest involved. For many, these efforts are nothing more than a search for personal power, to have control over others - in essense - to recreate the world in their own image...and THAT, to me, would be a huge sin, in itself.

Mind your business. Teach by example. Don't meddle without knowing all the facts. These are some of the rules I try to live by. If you're doing it right, sooner or later someone will ask you how you're doing it so well, & you can help them more directly. If you aren't, you won't screw up another's life by making them do things your way.

Those who would force rules or laws on me by "the word" don't understand it very well, imho.

OK, you asked for the quote on judging... 1 Corinthians Ch. 5:

5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without (meaning outside the body of Christ) ? do not ye judge them that are within?

5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Paul is telling the church at Corinth to cast a fornicator out of the church, but it shows the right way to judge. NEVER anyone who is not a brother or sister in Christ.

Also, I don't consider the Song of Solomon porn. It is a loveletter to a woman, and it also represents Christ's love for His Bride. God is the one who created sex, and he never said it was wrong inside marriage, but that a man was supposed to love his wife as Christ loves the church, and gave His life for it.

We do know that David got in trouble for something similar to porn, he watched another man's wife bathing, from the rooftop, and he sent for her, had his way with her, and she became pregnant. Then he had her husband killed in battle. The prophet Nathan was sent to remind David of his sin. Once David saw his sin, he repented wholeheartedly, which is a lesson for us. We are none above sin, I sin everyday, but I repent. That is what all of this is about to me.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

My message is that I am not "holier than any of you" but I just repent quickly when I have done something wrong.

Well, I am signing off for now.

Oh! I almost forgot - welcome to the forum, Marty!

Hope I haven't been overly offensive. I like to talk about this stuff, & I guess it comes across all wrong sometimes, but I'm not really a bad bloke. Just stuck in my ways, I suppose.

There's room for you here. I ain't really trying to scare you off or anything, & it's nice to see that I haven't.

Thank you for the welcome~as you can see, I don't scare off easily, lol. I am glad to be here and think it's a good thing-Bandmix...and I have been called a few names, but oh well, haven't we all, at some time or other, lol?

I guess it is just my nature to not be scared off easily, and that is part of my "testimoy" in music. Here is a small portion of my testimony:

Following The Music~The Beginning (Pt. 1) (My testimony)
by Marty Clayton Banfield

Writing a song is special, and always has been for me and many millions of you songwriters out there. My songs began as poems, and I began writing poems in the 5th grade. By the time I graduated from High School, I had written about 30 notebooks full of poems, which showed my progress from a little girl to a young woman. I played a few chords on guitar, but did not really play well, & was always disappointed that I was only a rhythm player.

When I got into college, I asked my English Professor to critque my poems, and he wrote this: "Your poems are great, but they are not poems, they are country music SONGS!" WOW, I had not even thought of such a thing.

So, I saw how easily they could be sung, and that began my actual spin off into the songwriting world, albeit just from my home.

So, not playing the guitar very good, I knew that I had to find a way to get the music put to my songs. I set out to find a guitar player who could help me do just that. That is how I got into the country music scene, looking for someone to translate what I was singing into actual chords!

I tried getting local bands to help me, but none even wanted to fool with helping someone who had never even sung with a band, lol. So I knew then I was gonna have to "pay some dues." I was writing only secular country music and country rock songs.

I soon got married right after H.School, and my husband wanted a set of drums for Christmas, to learn. His mother and I got together and bought him a cheap set, and he began to learn to play them a little. I was a housewife and at home all day, with my daughter a toddler at the time.

I had nothing better to do, so I would sit behind the drums, and I challenged myself to learn to play. I worked for 2 months before I could get the two hands coordinated with the kick drum, but when I finally quit trying so hard, I did it.

From there on, my husband and I began playing in our first country music band at an Elk's Lodge, about twice a month on weekends. This gave me some experience of actually playing in a group. We also played the VFW's, and I would play one set, and then my husband would play the next, and so we would rest in between sets. However, I wanted to SING, and not just play the drums, because I wanted to sing the SONGS I had written.

I will never forget years later, after we had quit with that band, we went back and visited the VFW club, and lo and behold, that night our old band was playing and asked me to "sit in" on the drums for a set. I was 7 months pregnant at the time, and my belly was pretty big, so at first I refused, but then they kept after me, for old time's sake.

So, I played one set of drums for the band, pregnant with my son. My son later came to play the drums, and I told him it must be because I put the rhythm in him that night, lol!

Anyway, I soon began feeling that I wanted to move to Nashville, Tn. to pursue a career as a songwriter. My husband and I were going through a divorce, and so I focused on music to get my mind off of my troubles. I had written all these country songs, and wanted to get the music put to them and get them recorded. I figured I could find someone to help me get the music put to them in Nashville!

Trying to figure out a way to get to Nashville- I was working as a barmaid at a local bar called "The Silver Dollar" when I first met the band that played there. Meeting this band sure changed my whole life, and I told the bar owner I would work for free if he would MAKE the band let me sing with them...he agreed to do so.

However, he didn't keep his bargain, and I had been working free for about three weeks, with no sign of pay in sight, and I threatened to walk out at a very busy time if he didn't keep his promise. He promised again, and told me he would take care of it after the night was over. I said NO, you will tell them to let me sing after this set is over! So, I got up and sat in with the band, and that was my first time onstage actually SINGING. I later jokingly told people that I was once "The Queen of the Silver Dollar.."

Later, I met the group's manager, a lady who is still my friend even now, and she and I and the band all went to Nashville together to record. Talk about "Following The Music..."

So, I haven't given up easily at anything in my life, I guess! Now see there, I said I was signing off.....and now look...lol

FING RELAX or better yet, go preach to someone who desires preaching.

Sans, I don't even know where you went with that when you read what I wrote so I am just to abandon it. A lot gets confused as it hits the thread, I chalk this up to the very same type of erroneous communication.

Ma'am, do not post your pic and then say you aren't ready for a nursing home, you are inviting disaster because you definitely are.

I am not a porno aficionado either, I was merely stating that it sounded like one. (if you don't like it you know what to do)

And personally, I could care less what you write as long as you aren't beating your bible loudly. (It's all drivel)

I still maintain that since you couldn't even write anything in your first post, you are either functionally illiterate or computer illiterate. Take your pick.

Otherwise, I don't really care what anyone thinks so if any and all have issue, keep it to yourself and we can let this hangnail of a thread expire.

It started out as pure bullshit, let's let it end the same way.

Next time miss church person, try saying something intelligent if you are indeed capable. I don't think we ever had an empty post here before you, just some that we wish were empty.