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#119349 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:40 pm
Intro -- Verse -- Chorus -- lead break -- Bridge -- Verse -- Chorus Out
I think I have probably used every combination at one point
or another. Even half verses and chorus in some. Rap to me sounds like
just one long verse from beginning to end to me sometimes.

One thing about Country is the ability to bend a vowel and make
a line work that way. Another is words that are Country words
like foundered.
That means when you've eaten so much of something that you
can never eat it again. You are foundered on it.
Rap does kinda the same thing with ebonics in the songs.
What tricks do you use to make your songs work?

#119357 by fisherman bob
Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:17 pm
One of the mysteries of music is what makes a song work. There are songs that are static, no key changes anywhere in the song like Canned Heat's On The Road Again, that are awesome. The only way to find out if a song works is to play it in front of a live audience. They'll tell you in no uncertain terms if it works...

#119358 by jimmydanger
Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:21 pm
I'm trying to see which one of these definitions you twisted into your new definition:

•fall through: fail utterly; collapse; "The project foundered"
•sink below the surface
•laminitis: inflammation of the laminated tissue that attaches the hoof to the foot of a horse
•collapse: break down, literally or metaphorically; "The wall collapsed"; "The business collapsed"; "The dam broke"; "The roof collapsed"; "The wall gave in"; "The roof finally gave under the weight of the ice"
•a person who founds or establishes some institution; "George Washington is the father of his country"
•stumble and nearly fall; "the horses foundered"
•a worker who makes metal castings

Regarding your OP, I've seen a lot of songs that are Intro-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Lead-Verse-Chorus-Chorus. Another variation is Intro-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Bridge-Lead-Verse-Chorus-Chorus and also Intro-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Bridge-Lead-Chorus-Chorus.

#119361 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:46 pm
I didn't twist it. It's just a word that is used in the South.

It's like "Oh no I cant eat another bite"
In the South "Oh no I'm foundered on that"


Here you go.
Yall come over to the house and get foundered on some
homemade peach cobler if yontoo.

#119368 by fisherman bob
Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:08 pm
Many years ago I moved from New Jersey to Knoxville, Tn. The older people there spoke with such a heavy accent I literally couldn't understand many things they said. The first time I bought something at a convenient store they asked me if I wanted a sack. I had no idea what that was. A burlap sack? Then I realized they meant a bag. When I first moved to Kansas people kept telling me 7 Highway, 40 Highway, 69 Highway, etc. when giving me road directions. I had never heard highways referred to with the number first, always Route 66, Route 10, Route 46, etc. There's other local terms I can't think of right now, but different parts of the country have their peculiar sayings.

#119371 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:37 pm
I believe New Jersey may have a couple too.

#119380 by gbheil
Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:28 pm
Play what I feel or what I'm told or what I feel based on what I'm told.
If it feels good ... play it.

#119401 by philbymon
Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:11 pm
Pattern schmattern!

Write what the piece needs, not by a set formulae.

#119402 by Slacker G
Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:18 pm
I have very little music theory. It amounts to this. If it works keep it, if it doesn't lose it. I use the same theory when writing songs or working out instrumentals.

#119404 by gbheil
Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:21 pm
Or girlfriends for that matter. :lol:

#119415 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:53 pm
You use these patterns whether you realize it or not.
Even you do schphil.

There's no SET pattern, its like shuffling cards.

#119417 by philbymon
Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:56 pm
Not always. You haven't heard 1/10th of my tunes, Klugmo, but you HAVE heard "Morons," & there's no lead, no bridge, & NO CHORUS in that song, just three verses, & the last ends with a slight change in chord structure.

#119420 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:04 pm
Sounds like 3 verses and a bridge outro.
It's still a pattern.


I just listened to it again and it sounds like
intro -verse - chorus - verse - chorus - verse - chorus - outro
Last edited by KLUGMO on Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

#119421 by philbymon
Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:08 pm
anything you do in western music either follows a pattern, or sets one. I don't understand your point.

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