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#114566 by Slacker G
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:00 pm
For the economic collapse of the Unites States?

With high taxes on capital gains set in place for 2011 to go into effect to scare away and remove incentives for investors.

The repeal of tax breaks for business set in place gone to cripple the expansion of business. Who wants to hire or expand in this environment?

Cap and trade baby steps going into place to raise our energy costs.

Wildly psychotic out of control government spending creating trillions in debt and accomplishing nothing, just as intended.

No tax money coming in due to all of the above. Not to mention all the hidden taxes that have put into the health care bill.

Just what if anything do you plan to do when, not if, the economy of America falls into total collapse?

Will they print phony money to sustain welfare programs for all the folks milking the system? Will the print phony money to sustain Social security? will laid off people get those government unemployment checks?

I think I'll just put my head between my knees and kiss my ass goodbye. That should work. Maybe fiddling while America burns is a good idea. It has been tried before so I am told.

Just what are you going to do? Everything is in place for the shoe to drop. Perhaps saint fearless leader and his gestapo have a solution for us? After all, they shall be the cause of it.

Can anyone say Heil Fearless Leader (Other than George) :)

Who thinks the economy is just fine, that everything is under control?

Who thinks it is going to blow up in our face? My bet is on the latter.

#114569 by gbheil
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:38 pm
I have a lot of faith in the resilience of the American people.

I also realize that the majority of them would not wake up in reality even if their house burned down around their ears. :(

#114570 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:41 pm
WHAT ABOUT ME SLACKER?
Estate tax, Capital gains tax, Carbon tax, Financial Regs [tax] ,whatever tax that can be levied.

All of this is designed to keep the masses in line. All of this is intended to keep the poor union worker,a poor union worker under the guise that everything is wonderful.

All of this is being done to tax the rich and make them pay.
Pay for what? GOVERNMENT OUT OF CONTROL.

New York govt is going to shut down this week. THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY.

Wait till this happens all over the country. Wait till the unions start telling their members they can't make pension checks.

Nobody here has a clue as to how bad this will get. There just isn't any more money for govt to tax and spend.

To all the liberal folks , the time has come to start spending all of your money, on this big govt you wanted.

#114573 by KLUGMO
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:42 pm
It's hard to say how much Americans will put up with until they will actually act on it with their vote or gathering in sapport of some action. Most people are busy trying to suvive it rather than change it.

#114574 by gbheil
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:47 pm
Hell man the whole F'n country is operation on loans from communist murderers. WTF !!

We don't need to vote em out.

We need to arrest em, charge em, convict em, and hang em.

And all in the same day as far as I care about em.

#114575 by Tronix
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:53 pm
many of us has been saying "STOP VOTING IN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS YOU IDIOTS!!" (not calling you guys idiots, but thats what I've been saying..lol) for years, and few will listen, we have been in steady decline since those two parties took exclusive control, because they both are two hands of the same evil monster. Doesn't matter who wins the election, either way we are fubar'd, all we're deciding is who we want to get alittle richer, and who has to wait a few more years to get theirs.
I work in retail, and the company I work for is hiring and expanding still, but thats not the norm around the country and I'm aware of that. I'm thanking god, I took three years of agriculture classes in Jr.High and High School now, knowing how to grow crops and raise animals is going to be a very valuable asset in my life before it's all said and done.

For the record, I'm ready for a new party to have a shot at this, and see what they can do, because obviously the Reps and Dems only care about making sure when poo hits the fan, they are still crazy wealthy and above the poverty they created.

one of the songs I wrote has this verse in it...

"Pride and righteous honor, lessons learned in jest
preaching to the world, how America was best
our focus used to be, the spread of liberty
now it's making lots of money, not meant for you, or me."

~Writen by me. lol

#114577 by fisherman bob
Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:57 pm
I believe that those tax and spend liberals and far-left thinking individuals honestly believe in their system, that it's really going to help this country. I don't think there's anything evil about their thinking, or that it's criminal. It's simply a misguided belief. They haven't studied history. Socialism and communism have been miserable failures everywhere it's been tried. The U.S.S.R., Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. These are all testaments to the failure of socialism and the true success of free enterprise. The recent rise in the Chinese economy is the rise of free enterprise in that country. When China acquired Hong Kong they looked at the incredible success of the Hong Kong economy and instituted reforms in China itself. I knew it was a matter of time before China would become an economic powerhouse. What AMerica needs is lower taxes and a free economic system with a healthy dose of regulation, NOT socialism. People need to look at history with their eyes WIDE OPEN and see what a miserable failure big government has been every where it has been tried. IT DOESN'T WORK.

#114578 by gbheil
Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:03 pm
I agree with what you say Bob as far as the average voting liberal.
Some of my best friends to the point of my considering them family are libs.
I disagree on the point of the "party" or "political" leaders of the "progressive" movement.
These bastards are intentionally attempting to destroy American sovereignty for the sake of world dominant governance.
Slavers they are to the last.
Kill em all and let God sort em out.

#114599 by Slacker G
Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:27 pm
I also believe a lot of them believe in what they are doing. HOWEVER, I also believe in spiritual deception. So, as one who believes in God, I have to consider all things. Especially those things spiritual in nature.

I have NOT seen any of this as a Republican / Demoncrat issue. Neither do I see it as a conservative / liberal issue. I see it as an escalation of spiritual warfare. If you are not spiritually inclined, this is pure nonsense to you and you are simply observing a puppet show, and not the puppet masters.

The spiritual goal of spiritual warfare is to form a wold government to control all populations. The purpose of that goal is to get all peoples to worship the head of the new world order as god.

But this has to accomplished in deceptively small steps. You must first create a crisis for an opportunity. Then you must act on the opportunity the crisis creates.

Looking at it as a strategic war game, and not even saying that this is in any way factual, I look at the opportunity such a disaster could create.
All of this points to bankrupting America. When America falls, all the nations shall fall. Then we all get to start a new from the same starting line. What an opportunity for a Utopian world government for the people to be put in place. At least on the surface.

If you consider that the end goal, and if you want to know what is going on in any given circumstance by these powers that be, then just ask yourself.

"What would the devil do?"

If you do not believe that to be the goal, then never mind. I hope you enjoy the puppet show. :)

#114606 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:50 pm
Sans, You have one flocking heck of a temper!

GOOD. We are going to need it. :)

#114613 by gbheil
Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:32 pm
Yes, Glen I do.

Yes Glen, we will. :wink:

#114630 by Tronix
Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:37 am
Coincidence there has been a local shortage of ammunition available here in Florida for the past year? Brass prices are through the roof.
I hadn't thought about it in those terms, I've pondered many similar situations, but up until now, the actual possibility America will indeed fall within my lifetime, seems much more possible than ever. Myself, I will bow to no one, unless it spares me the moment I need to kill the enemy in their sleep. :wink:

If and when something like this happen, look for me out in the woods somewhere, but be careful when you do. lol

#114634 by Krul
Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:30 am
I'm proud to say that I've never claimed a party, nor will I.

I thought the hobo generation was long gone, but if things keep getting worse...we're going to have packed up freight trains again. If farmers can't afford to run their machines, then tere will be jobs for everyone. :roll:

This is some scary stuff. I don't think anyone can really ignore what's going on at this point.

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