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#113349 by jw123
Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:15 pm
To me if you can play in tune fine its the playing that matters not the tuning.

I have played with quite a few players who dont use standard tuning but when we play they are in perfect tune to the song.

I understand that fro soem music having a really low note cant be compensated for, unless you tune for it.

I play with a few folks that dont play songs in the same pitch as the recorded version. Should I stop them and pitch a fit cause they arent playing it by the record? Hell I figure its a challenge and good mucial exercise to try and transpose songs on the fly. Some of you should try that sometime. I had an old Strat with super heavy strings that I tuned to D instead of E, used to freak folks out when we would play, they were so busy trying to look at my fingers to figure out what I was doint that they couldnt play with me. I told them to turn thier heads and just play and I would fill in and it worked. Still they were so obssessed with my hands that they couldnt understand that it doesnt matter how you are tuned just that you play in tune.

Now if this wanker was playing off pitch thats a whole different animal. I cant stand folks that dont play in key!

#113352 by Slacker G
Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:31 pm
I played an upright bass for a few years. But it had some of those things up on the head that changed the pitch of the open strings, so It was tunable.

Therefore, fortunately for me, I could tune it in a few minutes. But I was one of the lucky ones to get an upright bass that didn't have fixed tuning. :)

Mine tuned about as easy as my electric bass. Go figure. Was I lucky or what!!

#113507 by Shapeshifter
Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:21 pm
Phil,

BULL FIDDLE? PSALTRY?


Stop it man! You're blowin' my mind and stuff! :lol:


(Now I have to go look up a psaltry...thanks).

#113511 by Black57
Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:58 pm
jw123 wrote:To me if you can play in tune fine its the playing that matters not the tuning.

I have played with quite a few players who dont use standard tuning but when we play they are in perfect tune to the song.

I understand that fro soem music having a really low note cant be compensated for, unless you tune for it.

I play with a few folks that dont play songs in the same pitch as the recorded version. Should I stop them and pitch a fit cause they arent playing it by the record? Hell I figure its a challenge and good mucial exercise to try and transpose songs on the fly. Some of you should try that sometime. I had an old Strat with super heavy strings that I tuned to D instead of E, used to freak folks out when we would play, they were so busy trying to look at my fingers to figure out what I was doint that they couldnt play with me. I told them to turn thier heads and just play and I would fill in and it worked. Still they were so obssessed with my hands that they couldnt understand that it doesnt matter how you are tuned just that you play in tune.

Now if this wanker was playing off pitch thats a whole different animal. I cant stand folks that dont play in key!


Being that I am not a string player, tuning means only one thing. If you and I were to play a D, they gotta be in tune. Tuning is for the sake of pitch. In the world of wind instruments, many are not in the same key. For example soprano flute, bass flute and piccolo are all built in the concert pitch ( if you were to play a c on piano and a c on the flute...the pitches match ).However the trumpet is in B flat and "sounds" a step higher than flute. A B flat on flute is played as a C on trumpet. They sound the same. The sake of tuning is to keep the number of vibrations going at an equal speed so that it almost sounds as if one instrument is playing.Now I can't tune my flute so that it is in the key of DM or the key of Fm....I have to play in those keys. Same as trumpet. I don't particularly care how you match my pitch and you shouldn't care how I match yours. All that we should worry about is if we are in tune.

So JW123, if you were to tell me to play in the key of D, that's all I need to know as long as we are in tune. Does that make any sense?

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