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#108516 by CraigMaxim
Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:34 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/the-beatles/7603772/Beatles-introduced-to-Ravi-Shankars-music-at-LSD-party-Byrds-singer-reveals.html

Telegraph
By Dean Nelson in New Delhi
Apr 2010
Beatles introduced to Ravi Shankar's music at LSD party, Byrds singer reveals


The Beatles were introduced to Ravi Shankar's sitar music by Roger McGuinn at an LSD-fuelled
Los Angeles party at Zsa Zsa Gabor's mansion, the founder of the The Byrds has said.

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George Harrison listens as Ravi Shanker plays the sitar Photo: CORBIS

The collaboration between the Indian composer and the British pop band went inspired psychedelia, the 1960s movement that blended mind-altering drugs with experimental beat music that was one of the dominant cultural influences of the decade.

It took The Beatles to India to meet the Maharishi, inspired George Harrison to take sitar lessons from Pandit Ravi Shankar, and had a deep influence on albums including Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Sitar sounds later featured on The Rolling Stones hit Paint it Black and Stevie Wonder's "Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours".


But according to McGuinn, founder of the American rock band that had hits with "Mr Tambourine Man" and "Turn! Turn! Turn!", has now spoken for the first time about the moment he introduced Ravi Shankar's music to The Beatles.

According to McGuinn, the birth of the counterculture movement began when the Beatles sent a limousine to collect him and fellow Byrds founder David Crosby to hang out with them at Zsa-Zsa Gabor's Bel Air mansion, which they were renting during their 1965 tour of the United States.

"There were girls at the gates, police guards. We went in and David, John Lennon, George Harrison and I took LSD to help get to know each other better. There was a large bathroom in the house and we were all sitting on the edge of a shower passing around a guitar, taking turns to play our favourite songs. John and I agreed Be-Bop-A-Lula was our favourite 50s rock record.

"I showed George Harrison some Ravi Shankar sounds, which I'd heard because we shared the same record company, on the guitar. I told him about Ravi Shankar and he said he had never heard Indian music before," McGuinn told the Daily Telegraph from his home in Florida.

"You can hear what I played him from the Byrds' song 'Why'. I had learned to play it on the guitar from listening to records of Ravi Shankar," he added.

Harrison became the first Western pop musician to play a sitar on the song Norwegian Wood, and visited Shankar in Kashmir the following year to take sitar lessons.

After discussing Indian music, McGuinn said the conversation turned to religion, and he asked Harrison "what he thought about God". Harrison, who later became a disciple of the Maharishi and an advocate of Transcendental Meditation and "yogic flying", replied: "We don't know about that."

"Then they didn't know whether there was a God or not or about anything going on in the spiritual world, they were oblivious to it," he said.

When he next met George Harrison on a plane some time later, the Beatle was so focused on Indian religion that he was "transcending" in his seat, McGuinn said.

"We talked about Transcendental Meditation and he looked like he was somewhere else. I asked him 'what's going on?' and he said he was 'transcending'," he said.

"We planted the seeds [of psychedelia]. We loved Indian music and did some things in that vein, but not as much as The Beatles. Later they went out there [to India], got some sitars, met Ravi Shankar and learned to play them, and got into the whole Eastern Thing. We didn't really realise it but it had an impact. We loved the Beatles and they loved The Byrds, and we were sharing influences," he added.

At the time, he said, LSD and Indian music were a natural fit at a time when many were trying to "discover the truth about spiritual things".

McGuinn's memories of introducing the Beatles to Indian influences were stirred when he read a Daily Telegraph article in which Ravi Shankar, who is proud of his role as a classical Hindustani musician, voiced his anger at the Beatles for turning him into a "pop star" and surrounding him with drugged-out hippies.

#108580 by ryckykay86
Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:50 pm
lol for ravi's comments he is officially a sack. no one in the west would even know his name if it wasn't for the beatles. still love that sack's music though.

#108584 by jsantos
Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:05 pm
I admit, I did experiment with that stuff in my teens. In my opinion, some psychotropic drugs help you gain a different perspective that allows you to approach your art a different way. The question is, can I gain that experience without taking drugs? I would answer yes.... but it would be a gradual realization not like an instant impact when you are under influence. I would not go back to taking it now. I will probably not get anything constructive out of using it again.

#108605 by Starfish Scott
Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:37 pm
lol ah NO COMMENT..


And yeah Ravi's music is interesting..

#108631 by ryckykay86
Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:51 pm
i LOVE indian music personally. i would like to find a decent left handed sitar to dabble around on just dont feel like shellin out 450 at the moment. lol no lsd here tho, stuff isnt like it was in the 60s. ill stick to tree and beer. :D

#109186 by Starfish Scott
Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:20 pm
Pick the cow patties Ricky and take it sloowwwllllly.

They have to ink blue when you squish em.

Then I recommend them being VERY dry.

If you aren't the wait 1 hour type, you can end up in a little trouble.

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