General Music Chat

Wow, what a crazy neck! The head-stalk is pretty kewl too. I'm not a fan of the strat look tho - I like really dark, simple, solid, modern colors & look. But yeah - kewl!

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I'm glad to say that trem bars and systems are not a concern for me I really rather hate the sound of them, and they make changing strings a pain in the you know what. Plus what happens if you break a string during a live show - broinnnnnnnnnng - haha. don't be lazy, bend with your fingers, not a lever I'm kidding. don't flame back!

I have a Fender locking nut on my Strat, & I really prefer it to every Floyd Rose I've used. That being said, I hardly ever use the thing, but then again my tremolo with my fingers doesn't exist. I've never been taught that technique, & I can't seem to figger it out by myself. So, when I feel the need for the effect, I use the whammy. Odd, I'm sure, to real guitar players.

I'm glad to say that trem bars and systems are not a concern for me I really rather hate the sound of them, and they make changing strings a pain in the you know what. Plus what happens if you break a string during a live show - broinnnnnnnnnng - haha. don't be lazy, bend with your fingers, not a lever I'm kidding. don't flame back!

Both of my neck-through Ibanez guitars are fixed bridge, string-through.

I hardly use a floating trem anyway. I still have a guitar with one in case I need it.

I love being able to change a string quickly (especially with power tools!). And I love that I can change tunings in a flash (drop d, etc.)

I'm glad to say that trem bars and systems are not a concern for me I really rather hate the sound of them, and they make changing strings a pain in the you know what. Plus what happens if you break a string during a live show - broinnnnnnnnnng - haha. don't be lazy, bend with your fingers, not a lever I'm kidding. don't flame back!

Hahaha! The system on my Floyd is the speedloader system and I have the trem blocked so even if every string broke (which I never break strings because of accuracy), the last string would still be in tune. And I can change all six strings in under 2 minutes and be in perfect tune. The best trem system in the world IMO.


And hehehe! I use the trem for effect, not for simple string bends. The videos obviously show that.

What does accuracy have to do with breaking strings??
It has more to do with wear, and corrosion from your sweat and other substances.

And if you were to break every string but one, even on a fixed bridge, you would 'NOT' be in tune.
The neck on a guitar is affected by tension.

Oh, and neck-through is great till your fiddle falls over and the headstock breaks

I don't let the strings get corroded to that point, and accuracy means that I don't just hammer through the strings which is another thing that can cause them to break. Yeah the neck is affected by tension, so if there were only one left, it would be out I suppose. A little oversight there, hehe.

My old rhythm player would constantly break strings because he'd hammer through with no finess at all. As a result, I'd always have to give him my back-up strings because he'd never buy any. He's gone now...obviously.

I own a neck through Soloist and a set-neck Marty Friedman Ibanez, but I've always preferred bolt-ons like the Floyd. And in the Floyd's case...I could cut the headstock off and it wouldn't make a difference since it's just there for looks.

Ya, the other guitarist in my cover band is like that. He just has to hammer the shiat out of his strings.
Then he wonders why he has to adjust his tuning twice as much as me.

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I have never heard of someone breaking a string from hammering on - that just strikes me as odd - sharp frets? String breaks are mostly from trying to bend more than a whole note, in my limited experience that is.

And I've never broken a string, but then again, I've never been on stage where I'm sure the adrenaline and need to hit that note causes people to do what it takes to hit that note in a crunch.

Chris

I don't let the strings get corroded to that point, and accuracy means that I don't just hammer through the strings which is another thing that can cause them to break. Yeah the neck is affected by tension, so if there were only one left, it would be out I suppose. A little oversight there, hehe.

My old rhythm player would constantly break strings because he'd hammer through with no finess at all. As a result, I'd always have to give him my back-up strings because he'd never buy any. He's gone now...obviously.

I own a neck through Soloist and a set-neck Marty Friedman Ibanez, but I've always preferred bolt-ons like the Floyd. And in the Floyd's case...I could cut the headstock off and it wouldn't make a difference since it's just there for looks.

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I have never heard of someone breaking a string from hammering on - that just strikes me as odd - sharp frets? String breaks are mostly from trying to bend more than a whole note, in my limited experience that is.

And I've never broken a string, but then again, I've never been on stage where I'm sure the adrenaline and need to hit that note causes people to do what it takes to hit that note in a crunch.

Chris

Brother...it's not from "hammer-ons", but rather just beating the strings into oblivion with the pick. Some players don't have any finness with their picking style. That's what I was talking about. You must have not met one of those types yet. You'll see...

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I have never heard of someone breaking a string from hammering on - that just strikes me as odd - sharp frets? String breaks are mostly from trying to bend more than a whole note, in my limited experience that is.

And I've never broken a string, but then again, I've never been on stage where I'm sure the adrenaline and need to hit that note causes people to do what it takes to hit that note in a crunch.

Chris

Brother...it's not from "hammer-ons", but rather just beating the strings into oblivion with the pick. Some players don't have any finness with their picking style. That's what I was talking about. You must have not met one of those types yet. You'll see...

oh, hammering thruuuuuuu. lol. I haven't met the heavy handed type yet, and something tells me I'm a safer person for it

^.^ - cheers,
Chris

I know this may sound extreme , but strings really only last a few hours.
after that the fret wear on the underside changes the whole intonation of the string,then when you add in sweat and finger grind after about 5 hours those strings are shot, and now you are entering the string break zone.
After 20 hours of playing it gets harder to make the guit sound in tune ,ok for practice , but not if you want to sound good.
After 30 hours the stings have no brightness left ,they are sloppy and dont bounce back to your pick the way you are used to. at this point strings are going to break.

However ,the scary side of this is that at this point these strings have a very heavy bluesy sound and sound great from a completely different point of view.
They are SOFT and easy to play.

Whammo... one string breaks. you replace it and now your guit sounds like a blues master with one string out of tune [even though it is actually the only one that is in tune]

What a conundrum guit players face,

hah. that's pretty interesting. The change must be extremely gradual though because honestly, I can't tell much of a difference, until putting on new strings. I've had the same pups on my jackson for a few months now and I practice daily for at least 3 hours x 7 days a week.

Oddly, I do bend alot, full notes worth, and I have yet to break a string... I used to think better guitar players are the ones who break a lot of strings. Given they're like 7 bucks a pack, that's quite ok. I don't mind being a noob

I know this may sound extreme , but strings really only last a few hours.
after that the fret wear on the underside changes the whole intonation of the string,then when you add in sweat and finger grind after about 5 hours those strings are shot, and now you are entering the string break zone.
After 20 hours of playing it gets harder to make the guit sound in tune ,ok for practice , but not if you want to sound good.
After 30 hours the stings have no brightness left ,they are sloppy and dont bounce back to your pick the way you are used to. at this point strings are going to break.

However ,the scary side of this is that at this point these strings have a very heavy bluesy sound and sound great from a completely different point of view.
They are SOFT and easy to play.

Whammo... one string breaks. you replace it and now your guit sounds like a blues master with one string out of tune [even though it is actually the only one that is in tune]

What a conundrum guit players face,

I like the way Ibanez necks feel mainly when soloing. I use one on our new cd. But I would have to say that they are fragile. I've had to fix 3 or 4 of them. They have a tendency to split where the screws hold the nut on for Floyd systems. I even fixed one for Head from Korn once. The angle Ibanez uses for tension in the headstock doesn't help. If one ever falls backward, be prepared for the neck to start splitting (or break) in that spot. But it is hard to beat the feel of a wizard shaped neck.

For rhythm guitar work, the profile can cause fatigue in long sets. I did use Ibanez guitars exclusively for a while. But I switched to Squier Stagemaster neck-through guitars. The shape of the neck is a better all-around feel to me. I don't get the rhythm fatigue, and solos seem to have just as fast of a feel. The headstock isn't angled like an Ibanez, so I don't have to worry about splitting on the neck behind the nut. It's more of a Fender Modern-C shape, the body is alder. It may not have as cool of a look as an Ibanez, but in my opinion, a better all-around guitar (for me). And you can get them on e-bay in good shape for around $200.

I played this one at our show last night:



I converted it with custom pickups to be like a Fender Duo Sonic. Freaking tore it up last night!! They just have a really smooth feel and low action. I actually ran this one over one night on accident with a fully loaded truck (it was in a soft-case) , and it barely made a dent in it. Solid Solid guitar. They're built like tanks.

I honestly don't mind either one. But I generally find myself using the Squiers more than my Ibanez.

I actually ran this one over one night on accident with a fully loaded truck (it was in a soft-case) , and it barely made a dent in it. Solid Solid guitar. They're built like tanks.

dude... lol!
The body and neck looks dead on to my jackson. The main difference I feel between the necks is that the Ibanez fretboard is FLAT and the wood feels dry and grainy versus the Jackson that has a slight radius and the wood feels smoot and soft. I've grown so accustomed to the feel that going to Ibanez was kind of awkward at first, but the main difference that I noted in my first post was ALL THE ROOM to move all the way up the neck. I just really love that aspect. I'm thinking of cutting out more of the body on my Jackson (even tho it's only 22 frets) so I can move around more up there. I can do scales to the last fret with no reall hassle but I do have to unhook my thumb from behind the neck on the Jackson, which I don't like at all. But yeah - if I ever get on stage, I promised my Jackson it would be the first guitar I play up there - I have a sense of loyalty to it

Chris