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sanshouheil wrote:I personally don't believe the current seeming trend of increased disasters represent anything more than the planets normal flux couple with a huge population of well connected busy bodies. LOL
I agree with you. But this doesn't negate it having the potential to be a "sign" that the things that Revelation foretold, are now upon us. In other words, it is not required that God Himself, intervenes in nature, to create such a sign. God having foreknowledge of the cycles and patterns of nature, and even of human progression of population, would still have merit, in being a sign... meaning, God knows that when certain things appear in nature IN CONJUNCTION with the other events listed, this will be a sign to us, that the days foretold of in Revelation, are upon us.
sanshouheil wrote:And not to initiate another debate but, I don't believe in the "rapture" either.
My apologies for the assumption.
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CraigMaxim wrote:sanshouheil wrote:I personally don't believe the current seeming trend of increased disasters represent anything more than the planets normal flux couple with a huge population of well connected busy bodies. LOL
I agree with you. But this doesn't negate it having the potential to be a "sign" that the things that Revelation foretold, are now upon us. In other words, it is not required that God Himself, intervenes in nature, to create such a sign. God having foreknowledge of the cycles and patterns of nature, and even of human progression of population, would still have merit, in being a sign... meaning, God knows that when certain things appear in nature IN CONJUNCTION with the other events listed, this will be a sign to us, that the days foretold of in Revelation, are upon us.sanshouheil wrote:And not to initiate another debate but, I don't believe in the "rapture" either.
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My apologies for the assumption.
Agreed Craig. I would not argue either point of view.
And your apology, though unnecessary, is accepted.
#102417 by Slacker G
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:38 pm
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:38 pm
Mother nature has always been out of control. Every 28 days or so.
Slacker G wrote:Mother nature has always been out of control. Every 28 days or so.
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#102440 by jimmydanger
Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:09 pm
Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:09 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:jimmydanger wrote:Darwin explained it quite well 175 years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/03/01/v ... tml?hpt=C2
Darwin was quite insightful, even brilliant, particularly for his time. And if I am not mistaken, he was largely self-taught, in the fields he would ultimately make his mark in.
His father wanted him to be a doctor but he didn't care for it. He always loved biology, collecting bugs and stuff. When his father arranged for his famous voyage on the HMS Beagle he collected his specimens that he would later base his great theory upon. Darwin's great brilliance was his ability at insight, to seek simple explanations for things that seem complex.
Update:
The quake shortened our days, changed our axis.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100302/ ... aysonearth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/08/earthquake-turkey-okcular
Earthquake hits eastern Turkey; at least 41 dead
By SUZAN FRASER (AP)
ANKARA, Turkey — A strong earthquake, with a preliminary magnitude of 6, hit eastern Turkey on Monday, killing at least 41 people and knocking down houses in at least three small villages, the government said.
Mayor Bekir Yanilmaz, of the town of Kovancilar said the victims were from the villages of Okcular, Yukari Kanatli and Kayali, where the quake toppled stone or mud-brick homes and the minarets of mosques.
The government's crisis center said around 60 people were also injured in the quake which occurred at 4:32 a.m. (0232 GMT, 9 p.m. EST) in Elazig province, about 550 kilometers (340 miles) east of Ankara, the capital, and caught many people in their sleep.
It was centered near the village of Basyurt, and was followed by more than 20 aftershocks, the strongest measuring 4.1, according to Istanbul's Kandilli Observatory seismology center.
Emergency workers were trying to rescue four people from debris, Gov. Muammer Erol said.
CNN-Turk television said the dead included four young sisters trapped in the rubble.
"Everything has been knocked down, there is not a stone in place," said Yadin Apaydin, administrator for the village of Yukari Kanatli, where he said at least three villagers died.
Authorities blocked access to Okcular village, where most of the deaths occurred, to facilitate the entry and exit of ambulances and rescue teams on the village's narrow roads. Relatives rushed to the village for news of their loved ones.
The quake was felt in the neighboring provinces of Tunceli, Bingol and Diyarbakir where residents fled to the streets in panic and spent the night outdoors.
Some of the injuries occurred during the panic, when people jumped from windows or balconies. Dogan news agency footage showed people bringing in the injured to hospitals by cars and taxis.
Kandilli Observatory's director, Mustafa Erdik, urged residents not to enter damaged homes, warning that they could topple from the aftershocks, which could last for days.
Television footage showed rescue workers and soldiers at Okcular lifting debris as villagers looked on. Two women sat on mattresses wrapped in blankets. Turkey's Red Crescent organization began setting up tents in the region.
Earthquakes are frequent in Turkey, much of which lies atop the North Anatolian fault. In 1999, two powerful earthquakes struck northwestern Turkey, killing about 18,000 people.
Earthquake hits eastern Turkey; at least 41 dead
By SUZAN FRASER (AP)
ANKARA, Turkey — A strong earthquake, with a preliminary magnitude of 6, hit eastern Turkey on Monday, killing at least 41 people and knocking down houses in at least three small villages, the government said.
Mayor Bekir Yanilmaz, of the town of Kovancilar said the victims were from the villages of Okcular, Yukari Kanatli and Kayali, where the quake toppled stone or mud-brick homes and the minarets of mosques.
The government's crisis center said around 60 people were also injured in the quake which occurred at 4:32 a.m. (0232 GMT, 9 p.m. EST) in Elazig province, about 550 kilometers (340 miles) east of Ankara, the capital, and caught many people in their sleep.
It was centered near the village of Basyurt, and was followed by more than 20 aftershocks, the strongest measuring 4.1, according to Istanbul's Kandilli Observatory seismology center.
Emergency workers were trying to rescue four people from debris, Gov. Muammer Erol said.
CNN-Turk television said the dead included four young sisters trapped in the rubble.
"Everything has been knocked down, there is not a stone in place," said Yadin Apaydin, administrator for the village of Yukari Kanatli, where he said at least three villagers died.
Authorities blocked access to Okcular village, where most of the deaths occurred, to facilitate the entry and exit of ambulances and rescue teams on the village's narrow roads. Relatives rushed to the village for news of their loved ones.
The quake was felt in the neighboring provinces of Tunceli, Bingol and Diyarbakir where residents fled to the streets in panic and spent the night outdoors.
Some of the injuries occurred during the panic, when people jumped from windows or balconies. Dogan news agency footage showed people bringing in the injured to hospitals by cars and taxis.
Kandilli Observatory's director, Mustafa Erdik, urged residents not to enter damaged homes, warning that they could topple from the aftershocks, which could last for days.
Television footage showed rescue workers and soldiers at Okcular lifting debris as villagers looked on. Two women sat on mattresses wrapped in blankets. Turkey's Red Crescent organization began setting up tents in the region.
Earthquakes are frequent in Turkey, much of which lies atop the North Anatolian fault. In 1999, two powerful earthquakes struck northwestern Turkey, killing about 18,000 people.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8603073.stm
BBC
Earthquake rocks western Mexico
Monday, 5 April 2010
A 7.2 magnitude earthquake has hit the Mexican peninsula of Baja California, killing at least one person and causing tremors as far away as Nevada.
The quake struck at 1540 (2240 GMT), 26km (16 miles) south-west of Guadalupe Victoria in Baja California, at a depth of 32km, said the US Geological Survey.
Some people are still trapped in their homes in the city of Mexicali, where a state of emergency has been declared.
It was the worst quake to hit the region for many years, officials said.
The US Geological Survey said some 20 million people felt tremors from the largest quake to hit the area since 1992.
Bridge checks
Mexican civil protection officials said a man had died when his home collapsed outside Mexicali, near the earthquake's epicentre.
Structural damage was reported in the city of Mexicali
Rescue teams with digging equipment and sniffer dogs have been despatched to the worst-affected areas of Mexicali from the nearby city of Tijuana.
The government in Mexico's Baja California declared a state of emergency in Mexicali, a city of about 900,00 people.
The quake caused buildings to sway in Tijuana, where Easter celebrations were interrupted as families rushed for open ground.
Some parts of Baja California had seen power cuts, officials said.
The BBC's Peter Bowes in Los Angeles says the shaking lasted for about a minute and US firefighters were called out to inspect roads, bridges and power-lines.
The LA Fire Department had also responded to a number of automatic alarms and people being stuck in lifts, reports said.
Rides were temporarily suspended at the Disneyland theme park in California.
Many readers who contacted the BBC spoke of the "surreal" swaying of buildings for up to a minute, although Steve Rider from Palm Springs in California said it was "the most powerful earthquake I have ever felt".
Kyle Stockburger, in Los Angeles, said: "Everyone stopped talking in the restaurant and the overhead lights started swaying back and forth. It wasn't violent, just unreal. It felt like the whole earth was swaying."
BBC
Earthquake rocks western Mexico
Monday, 5 April 2010
A 7.2 magnitude earthquake has hit the Mexican peninsula of Baja California, killing at least one person and causing tremors as far away as Nevada.
The quake struck at 1540 (2240 GMT), 26km (16 miles) south-west of Guadalupe Victoria in Baja California, at a depth of 32km, said the US Geological Survey.
Some people are still trapped in their homes in the city of Mexicali, where a state of emergency has been declared.
It was the worst quake to hit the region for many years, officials said.
The US Geological Survey said some 20 million people felt tremors from the largest quake to hit the area since 1992.
Bridge checks
Mexican civil protection officials said a man had died when his home collapsed outside Mexicali, near the earthquake's epicentre.
Structural damage was reported in the city of Mexicali
Rescue teams with digging equipment and sniffer dogs have been despatched to the worst-affected areas of Mexicali from the nearby city of Tijuana.
The government in Mexico's Baja California declared a state of emergency in Mexicali, a city of about 900,00 people.
The quake caused buildings to sway in Tijuana, where Easter celebrations were interrupted as families rushed for open ground.
Some parts of Baja California had seen power cuts, officials said.
The BBC's Peter Bowes in Los Angeles says the shaking lasted for about a minute and US firefighters were called out to inspect roads, bridges and power-lines.
The LA Fire Department had also responded to a number of automatic alarms and people being stuck in lifts, reports said.
Rides were temporarily suspended at the Disneyland theme park in California.
Many readers who contacted the BBC spoke of the "surreal" swaying of buildings for up to a minute, although Steve Rider from Palm Springs in California said it was "the most powerful earthquake I have ever felt".
Kyle Stockburger, in Los Angeles, said: "Everyone stopped talking in the restaurant and the overhead lights started swaying back and forth. It wasn't violent, just unreal. It felt like the whole earth was swaying."
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