General Music Chat

very simple
obama wants no more excursions into the middle east

seriously? You don't know that we are supplying Syrian rebels (also Muslim Brotherhood mixed with Hezbollah)

no circumstance that will lead to expanding US presence in a very volatile region

seriously? The State Department would love nothing more than to control every nation. That's why we have so many military bases.

not to mention the fact that most people including your self don't want to pay for more troops in the middle east.

Shouldn't make that assumption. I'm all for stopping Iran, no matter what it takes. Cutting our military will CAUSE a war. In the arab world, all they understand is brute strength. Iran was very quiet and cordial when the USA was pounding Iraq.

the real fact is that the middle east is a European problem, as it has been for centuries.
the british installed the jews and europe must protect them or feed them to the wolves.
knowing europe they will feed them to the wolves.
truthfully, none of this is our concern

There are many factual flaws with those assumptions.

In the final analysis, all of it is our concern since we are the world's superpower. If we disengage, it will come back to bite us and be much much worse.




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very simple
obama wants no more excursions into the middle east

seriously? You don't know that we are supplying Syrian rebels (also Muslim Brotherhood mixed with Hezbollah)

no circumstance that will lead to expanding US presence in a very volatile region

seriously? The State Department would love nothing more than to control every nation. That's why we have so many military bases.

not to mention the fact that most people including your self don't want to pay for more troops in the middle east.

Shouldn't make that assumption. I'm all for stopping Iran, no matter what it takes. Cutting our military will CAUSE a war. In the arab world, all they understand is brute strength. Iran was very quiet and cordial when the USA was pounding Iraq.

the real fact is that the middle east is a European problem, as it has been for centuries.
the british installed the jews and europe must protect them or feed them to the wolves.
knowing europe they will feed them to the wolves.
truthfully, none of this is our concern

There are many factual flaws with those assumptions.

In the final analysis, all of it is our concern since we are the world's superpower. If we disengage, it will come back to bite us and be much much worse.




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everyone is running guns that will never end
there is money in it.

the state dept wants to rule the world.
ok so what
I also want to be head boy.
besides the state dept doesn't rum military bases.
you seem to have problem being an American
if you have a problem being an American you certainly aren't going to like being an Israeli

i can also say this about the dept of Ag.



so you want a personal check off box on your 1040 huh?
god I wonder what that would cost!
take a look around the world.
see some place the war hasn't started?
I don't know where you have been but the war started a long time ago
and will go on for a long time to come.


there are no facts in the future

and the surest way to lose a conflict is to fight the last war again.

I have several problems with this scenario. I'll just list them.

1 We NEVER under any conditions exchange prisoners or ransom for hostages. If we were to do that, every American on the planet would be fair game for hostage takers. As it was for Israel during the Olympics hostage crisis, so it is with us.

2 They fought for about 7-8 hours. If they wanted him for a hostage they would have seen the odds of getting him alive and would wait for another opportunity.

2 They killed him and dragged his body through the street. I do not believe that "kidnappers" would tend to piss off the country with whom they are trying to negotiate for something.

3 The release of this criminal is in the process anyway, so I have heard. One of their head men has been to the White House trying to find a way to arrange it on multiple occasions. Why would they deliberately put the skids on that by pulling a Kidnapping that turned to murder?

4 It is going around that a sniper had the guy with the grenade launcher in his sights and was told to "stand down". Time will tell if that is true.

We have gone through the White House" it was all because of a video" to i"t was a 9/11 related attack". But the players in this debacle may indicate something else altogether as we learn more about them. Time will tell.

We had military defenses well within striking distance. Why did it take so long? Why was the order not given? They watched it happen through drone video. Find the reason they did nothing and it may make more sense.

And why did "Fearless Leader" Immediately run to the UN to sign a Bill against Hate speech concerning religion? I have an idea why he did just that.

Slacker, BUDDY, would you please stop calling president Obama the fearless leader. I'm not making a joke of it, but he is not a fearless person but even more he is not a leader.

Slacker, just to be double sure, I think you are one helll of a great guitarist.
BUT!

President obama is the big 0, zero,zip, nada. Please put aside this fearless shiit aside.

I hope everyone feels great that Stevens was on the big 0s hit list when he refused to pass guns and military weapons to al-queda.

I wasn't the genius that figured this out,,, but if the truth comes out I will let you know.

You couldn't see the truth if you had 96 eyes. But by all means let us know lol.

I have several problems with this scenario. I'll just list them.

1 We NEVER under any conditions exchange prisoners or ransom for hostages. If we were to do that, every American on the planet would be fair game for hostage takers. As it was for Israel during the Olympics hostage crisis, so it is with us.

2 They fought for about 7-8 hours. If they wanted him for a hostage they would have seen the odds of getting him alive and would wait for another opportunity.

2 They killed him and dragged his body through the street. I do not believe that "kidnappers" would tend to piss off the country with whom they are trying to negotiate for something.

3 The release of this criminal is in the process anyway, so I have heard. One of their head men has been to the White House trying to find a way to arrange it on multiple occasions. Why would they deliberately put the skids on that by pulling a Kidnapping that turned to murder?

4 It is going around that a sniper had the guy with the grenade launcher in his sights and was told to "stand down". Time will tell if that is true.

We have gone through the White House" it was all because of a video" to i"t was a 9/11 related attack". But the players in this debacle may indicate something else altogether as we learn more about them. Time will tell.

We had military defenses well within striking distance. Why did it take so long? Why was the order not given? They watched it happen through drone video. Find the reason they did nothing and it may make more sense.

And why did "Fearless Leader" Immediately run to the UN to sign a Bill against Hate speech concerning religion? I have an idea why he did just that.

First of all, we are talking about a treasonous Administration, so what ever we "never do" doesn't matter.

It has been determined that the Ambassador died of smoke inhalation. It's entirely possible that happened while his kidnappers were trying to fight their way out of the building and drawing gunfire from the Seals.

And failed kidnappers turned successful murderers needed a prize to justify their stupidity. Why wouldn't they drag an American through the streets to be heroes in Libya?

The Ambassador was given up a long time ago when security was scaled back while more was being requested. This was a set-up all along.

It may be that the whole point is the U.N. blasphemy laws O is trying to get. That started on the day of the riot in Eygpt and it's why they blame a video, made by a muslim in California, that they are claiming to be a coptic christian.

The whole thing is about establishing sharia. A kidnapping ransom might have helped the release of the blind sheik though.

You know how the Spetnaz deals with terrorists, right>?

Smoke and flash the whole place and then MOVE IN !!!

That's what you do with terrorists.
Not good for hostages, but reduces your terrorism issues VERY quickly.

poka

Another theory being floated is that the Ambassador was there to direct the smuggling of arms used in the Libyan "revolution" to Syrian rebels through Turkey, and the cover up is to hide O's involvement in a treasonous activity.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ghazigate/




I'm not buying that one...but all we can do is guess since the cover-up is still in effect. A botched kidnapping is the most likely scenario so far.

I'll buy into that article as the best bet so far.

With all the hostages killed on camera how many were humiliated by being raped? Rape in this manner is a means of humiliating someone.

To me it appeared as if they had a personal grudge with him for some reason. All the facts surrounding this make it appear more like a hit than a hostage taking situation. Could it be related to what took place at the meeting with the militant leader four hours before the attack?
Those four hours would be ample time to round up a group of local thugs, get them armed, and plan a simple assault.

Those thugs made a big deal out of his death as if to show anyone else what could happen to them, as opposed to just killing him or cutting off his head as they did with so many other of their victims. It was as an in your face Chicago mob style warning to others.

Nothing is etched in stone yet as there are several possibilities. I see that this is todays article. Monday, October 22, 2012

A lot of time to follow up on this one before we get either the final pretend truth or the real deal.

You couldn't see the truth if you had 96 eyes. But by all means let us know lol.

You know Jimmy, with all your intelligence and education,,,
You still keep posting some really dumb stuff.

I actually like some of the music you have posted, but when you keep posting stuff like this I have to raise some questions.

Gotta go electric and Inet is iffy right now.

rule # 1

the only thing that ever gets covered up here in Washington is incompetence and oversight.
even then that only last a month or two.

yod
you're tilting at windmils

Obama will lose if he loses for the only reason presidents lose.

JOBS

Deleted...Bogus Story... Dam Fkn Libs at it again

http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/29/rogue ... own-order/

Coverups are like roadside diners, one comes along every so often. lol

Attacking an embassy IS the same as attacking American soil. The U.S. reponse should be immediate and horrific. If I were President the Libyans would still be cleaning up many square miles of devastation. The sh*t has to STOP.

Deleted...Bogus Story... Dam Fkn Libs at it again

http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/29/rogue ... own-order/

this man, and the Navy Seals who died, are all heroes. They will eventually get the Medal of Honor for putting country over dictator.

I'm hopeful that this is a sign of things to come. Not happy about how much it will cost before it's over.

But, any "President" who is willing to do this will not be leaving office without violence.




The media cover-up is as treasonous as anything that has happened in the past 4 years. I wonder how much more it will take before they are the ones being targeted for destruction by citizens?



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