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#172545 by Vampier
Wed May 09, 2012 1:16 am
JCP61 ... Excellent pic, post and thoughts. I am starting to like you a bit... does that make me a fatalist ??? Ta

#172546 by MikeTalbot
Wed May 09, 2012 1:38 am
The future's so bright I have to wear shades. 8)

Or perhaps not...

Talbot

#172555 by PaperDog
Wed May 09, 2012 4:26 am
KLUGMO wrote:Is that retired military man a liar?
Are there not billions being sifted out of America?
Are we not controlled by oil barons?
Are there not hungry children all over America?
Did the financial institutions and Obama not "F" us out of our money?
Is our justice system not totally out of control?

These are just a few questions that if true, paint a country altering picture.
Oh yeah, is the US dollar not gonna be SEVERELY devalued due to
a 5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT?
There are countries already buying barrels of oil with their own
currencies valuation instead of US Dollars.
[/b]


-No,
-Yes,
-Somewhat,
-Yes,
-Hell yes,
-Hell yes

BTW The US Dollar is already devalued... Remember the Creddit rating we just recieved... Less than stellar// There is talk that we ar about to lose our status as the holder of the monetary standard. When that happens, Our dollars wil be worth less than a roll of pic-sav toilet paper... then were looking at third world conditions creeping in..

Wanna know why... Cause us mellow guys are too hesitant to go pick up a weapon and start picking off all the 'bullies' of America... This is how socialism germinates and grows.

#172573 by Slacker G
Wed May 09, 2012 2:16 pm
"You're a religious man aren't you? What did you think of Ninevah?


Unfortunatley the lessons found in the story of Ninevah have nothing to do with the word I received from the Lord, unless He forgot to mention that to me. I also believe in the over quoted prophesy in 2nd Ch 7:14. However, that also has nothing to do with what I was told.

How about Isaiah 24:1 (BBE) See, the Lord is making the earth waste and unpeopled, he is turning it upside down, and sending the people in all directions.

Today the governments of this world are being turned upside down. When things collapse, the people of the world that shall be scattered are those that belong to Him..

What do you think of Rev 13:1? (The dragon stood on the beach beside the sea.) I looked and saw a beast coming up from the sea. This one had ten horns and seven heads, and a crown was on each of its ten horns. On each of its heads were names that were an insult to God.

It is a picture of the beast rising from the masses, made up of all peoples tongues and nations. That is the corporate body of the beast, as believers are the corporate body of Christ.

He didn't mention Ninevah there either.

However, I am not one of those doomsday prophets. I see a new order rising from the rubble. But first things first. :)

#172579 by KLUGMO
Wed May 09, 2012 2:55 pm
dog, we dont have to pick off anyone. We have the power as a nation already to change everything. I said earlier that the plan may be to keep us struggeling to survive so for most voting is thought of as a useless task.
As a nation and not as Republicans or Democrats or any other we need to believe in a single human being in this country that has surrounded himself with proven and trusted staff as this country did with George Washington. Its not about them or those, its about us.

I'm just afraid the total control of everyones life will go on too long before the nation as a whole will wake up. Then the powers that be will be too strong to stop. As long as just getting by is good enough and "partying your ass-off" keeps others occupied and division through parties keeps national focus blurred. THEY WIN![/b]
#172596 by Sir Jamsalot
Wed May 09, 2012 6:26 pm
Well, I've read your thread - let's not forget what i was initially reacting to: namely, what you stated rather unequivically:

I know most think that I am a "Doomdayer: or whatever but... it is much much worse and we are all the walking dead. Ta


I don't buy into this line of thinking. Even Ninevah was considered "the walking dead" because of their evilness and corruption, yet the harbinger of destruction came with a word of hope - repent, and you'll be spared, and they were.

In terms of dooms days, the list of Armageddons goes back to the beginning - yet we're still here. So I don't buy into them. And even if one is true, so what? I'll live a few years less? Does it really matter when or how you die? If you don't believe in God, then there's nothing, including memory, so nothing you enjoy now matters at all - it's all vanity to quote my favorite author. If you do believe in God, then you have a path to eternal bliss. In both cases, what happens on earth is pretty silly, don't you think?

Anyways, you'll be happy to hear I'm done with this topic. I hope your camping trip went well.

cheers!
8)

Vampier wrote:...The Time is Past to Remain Silent ...O hate to point out that what you "think" Sir Jam you have "survived" is nothing compared to what is coming. You must have mistaken me for someone else dear boy. I am not even a reluctant fatalist. I have never stated that I" view people as incapable of creative blah blah "??? I have been urging relative not "repentant" creativity here ... with a dash of originality and critical thought ... Read my thread here if you dare.

You love that word fatalist do you not ?? Look up the meaning and try to apply it to me then. Life is hard. It is getting harder. Based upon your discernment there are many fatalists ... almost every philosopher. By the way I lived in S/F for ten years.

"better to live your life not knowing" perhaps for you but not for me or a hundred million others who value humanity and freedom and truth and a worthwhile creative existence. Of course there are many who have been sucking down the corn syrup of this modern world. I am very happy, very concerned and most definately not a fatalist. But I do not disagree with all you say about them however.

Klugmo is correct and JCP61 is ... well JCP61 and always gives his unique perspective and it is impossible to discount all of it ever. Slacker G ...wisdom ... honesty and he forgot the Zionists.

You describe the mass media fodder when you refer to every five years. Most of what you say sounds like Fox News in some ways to me. Read my thread ... that should get you off your seat...You seem nice enough just perhaps a bit more thinking and les practicing ? It is humour so do not bent out of shape.

If you post some things and I do not reply right away it is because I am going camping in the desert and communing with nature and those I love. Of course I may suffer a fatalist attack and leap from a dune to my artificial death ... have you checked out the news from Fukushima lately ? That is really depressing or the Fema Camps, no fly zone over chicago, I could go on and on. But thankfully I will not. Ta

#172846 by gbheil
Sat May 12, 2012 1:46 am
Live, love, struggle for justice, but in the end.

We are not in control.

Jesus has my back ...

The rest is just the backing tracks of life.

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