General Music Chat

^ The only person in this thread who has even the slightest idea what they are talking about is Craig.

Ryan do you think HONESTLY that Palin is a strong candidate to run the United States?

Actually yes...I wrote her name in the President spot back in the '08 election. And so did my family and friends

I can't fathom to this day why McCain picked her other than the fact she was a she and much younger AND good looking. I don't think choosing her had anything to do with politics...

It had EVERYTHING to do with politics.


There is a reason, several actually, but especially one important one, that McCain was chosen by the party hacks (And I say that as a Republican myself) to be the party's nomination.

There was no real chance of a Republican getting elected. (it seemed)

Traditionally, the Republicans are supposedly known for "picking the next one in line" when it comes to nominees for President. You even heard the media-heads saying that about this last election as well.

Really?

How was John McCain at 103 years old (and I respect John greatly LOL) supposed to be "next in line"? He may have been "next in line" during the 2000 election when Bush Inc "STOLE" yes... "STOLE" the nomination from him.

But in 2008?

Bullsh*t!

He should have been next in line, A LONG TIME AGO, but McCain has always been true to his own convinctions, not letting anyone dictate to him, what is right and wrong. He has a reputation of challenging his own party when they are wrong, and this has ALWAYS irked the Republican old-timers.

He was NOT next in line in 2008.

The party THREW HIM A BONE, because:

1) No Republican was going to have a shot in hell, after the beating the media gave Bush for 8 years, so... Let's give it to McCain, cause no Republican is going to win this one anyway, so no one will be out anything, other than McCain. It's not like he's going to win, and take the chance away from someone WHO ALWAYS AGREES WITH US! We'll get another shot in 4 years... let's focus on the 2010 Congressional Seats for now.

2) McCain, having been a darling of the liberal media, because he challenges his own party at times, and because he is respectful and concilliatory with the opposition... Who knows? A Republican is not going to win anyway, but hey... McCain is the only one among us who WOULD have a shot this time, WERE IT POSSIBLE, because he is respected on BOTH sides of the aisle.


So we start there.


Now we need a running mate.

Oops... small problem here.

The two front runners of the opposition, who are fighting it out are BOTH potentially "historic" candidacies... A black President, or a female president. America is already wanting change as it is, and here are the Democrats, with two HISTORIC opportunities either way they go, to sweeten the deal.

THERE WAS NO WAY a Republican had a shot in hell for SURE now!

They hoped it would be Hillary who they were up against. Because she may be divisive enough, and historically hated by some, enough, to give the GOP a chance. But even that was questionable, they knew, because she had PROVEN herself in the Senate already. She took her seat in the Senate, and made no noise about herself for awhile... she just learned the ropes, and served the people of New York, developing a good relationship with other Senators on BOTH sides of aisle, and even the Republicans who used to HATE HER as wife of Bill, and architect of the Health Care disaster where she tried to alter our health care system, but NOT as an elected official of the people, merely because she was wife of the President. Even those guys who remember all that, had to admit that she was a GOOD LEGISLATOR and she EARNED a great deal of respect.

So even if SHE were the Dems choice, the Republicans were scared to death. She wasn't the same Hillary that was making the real policy decisions and letting Bill have the credit for them.

No, this woman had her own political clout on her resume now.


So...


What was McCain to do?

From the currently hated party (because the people bought into the over-the-top Bush hatred) to being up against a Black Man or a Woman, BOTH historical moments in America.

How would a 103 year old (kidding) WHITE MAN compete with that?

Well...


Sarah Palin!


Sarah was the answer!

She was very congenial and likeable, she had a great story, as a normal Mom, who did not enter politics on her own, but was BEGGED by others to become involved in Alaskan politics... And she not only succeeds, when thrust into the political arena, in the low level local politics, but she is so successful and so liked and respected at that job, that she eventually works her way up, to being Governor of the whole state!

And not just ANY Governor... but the MOST POPULAR Governor in ALL OF AMERICA!

She did not accomplish that because she was pretty.

She did not accomplish that because she was stupid.

She did not accomplish that because Alaskans are stupid.

She accomplished that, because SHE EARNED IT! She WON the people of Alaska over, even her opponents, because of her hard work, her character and ethics, and her honesty and integrity.

No ONE GAVE HER ANYTHING!


She also had the luxury of NOT being a Washington Insider, which meant McCain, a decades long member of the Senate, could have a fresh face connected with him, that was OUTSIDE the normal political structure in Washington DC. - Her being on the ticket, would help McCain prove that his Presidency would NOT be another Bush term for 4 more years.

It was a BRILLIANT choice, and she sparked the ticket like nobody's business! So much so, that she has become hated by the left ever since, because she scares the living hell out of them!

She is a self-made MODERN and INDEPENDENT -REPUBLICAN- Woman!!!!

She is Governor, while her husband was a stay at home dad, in effect.

A strong INDEPENDENT and HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL... uhh... -REPUBLICAN- Woman?

What the...???!!!

There is not supposed to be such an animal!

That is the domain of DEMOCRATS -NOT- Republicans!!!!

How dare they!!!

What kind of trick is this?

How dare those stuffy old GOP codgers, do something like this! A woman who is modern, independent, SUCCESSFUL and is also a great mom, who BALANCES EVERYTHING????

That is the Holy Grail of the Democrat Version of what a woman should be... NOT REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!

"FOUL!!! FOUL!!!! WE CALL FOUL!!!!!"

"WHERE DID THIS WOMAN COME FROM???!!!!" they asked.

She must be the devil!!!!

"No wait... she's stupid! That's it!"

"Because, doesn't she know Republican women are supposed to be barefoot and pregnant? And nothing more? What the hell is the world coming to?"


- Democrats underestimated Sarah Palin.

- People have underestimated Sarah Palin her whole life.

- Many people are underestimating her NOW!


BIG MISTAKE!


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dude...you DO realize you could've said all of that in a single paragraph, don't you?

I fear we're in for a windy spring...

dude...you DO realize you could've said all of that in a single paragraph, don't you?

Me? Not me.

George could have said all that in a single paragraph, but not ME!

You know better!

LMAO!!

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dude...you DO realize you could've said all of that in a single paragraph, don't you?

Me? Not me.

George could have said all that in a single paragraph, but not ME!

You know better!

LMAO!!

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I agree to disagree on Palin. She WAS the most popular governor in one of the least populated states in the U.S. Before she became governor she was mayor of a very small town. That doesn't qualify her to run the United States. The fact that she's a Republican doesn't qualify her to run the United States. I firmly believe that McCain chose her for one reason. Just as Obama wasn't qualified to run the UNited States, his popularity had everything to do with his appeal, which wasn't based on his political career. Here was a very attractive, dashing, light skinned African American who didn't speak with a Negro dialect (thanks Harry Reid!). Obama was in the midst of capturing the fancy of many millions of Americans. McCain needed somebody who could provide him with an equal fascination. One of the problems with picking Palin is that it made McCain look so plain and old. I was afraid to vote for McCain because honestly I wasn't sure he could live through his Presidency, then I thought of an eminently unqualified Palin. Then I thought of an eminently unqualified Obama, and the only one left was Biden who I don't like, but who has spent a great many years in Washington and probably would survive a Presidency if God forbid Obama didn't make it to the end of his Presidency. So by a process of elimination of three LOSUY choices and a fourth somewhat LOUSY choice (Biden) I ended up voting for Obama. But what has happened during his first year in office makes me want to take back my vote. We got a Socialist for President. The mid-term elections will be a Democrat removal vote, wait and see...

I'm not underestimating her, Craig. I'm sure she'll be a fine entertainer, in her own strange way. She just has no business being in any political position. Even she knows that, evidently, or she wouldn't have quit.

I agree to disagree on Palin.

That's cool brother. But we may agree on some of this, more than we disagree I think.

She WAS the most popular governor in one of the least populated states in the U.S.

Unimportant. Her state probably has a similar population to Delaware's, where Joe Biden was Senator. Plus, if you are speaking of popularity, it is determined by a percentage. The nation is very often split right down the middle. If she had won over enough of the other party's membership, it matters not that her state has maybe a million people, whereas New Mexico, John McCain's state, has 2 or 3 million. She won over a huge percentage of people who are from an opposing party. She had a 70% or 80% approval rating. We're talking Ronald Reagan numbers here.

Before she became governor she was mayor of a very small town. That doesn't qualify her to run the United States. The fact that she's a Republican doesn't qualify her to run the United States.

I never said she was qualified to be President. (Although I DO believe she would tackle the challenge and make a good one!)

I was condemning people, for fabricating things about her. Calling her stupid, incapable, inept, whatever... When people resort to extremism that has no merit in reality, merely because of political opposition, then having a rational conversation is impossible. You can't have a legitimate conversation about someone's merits and achievements versus their faults and weaknesses, when one of the participants is trying to discuss reality, and the other is embellishing and exaggerating beyond recognition.

It's like calling someone, the most unintelligent person you have ever seen, because you watched them stub their toe on the carpet. When someone deals in that kind of stuff, they are interested only in ranting because of a personal bias, and not having a factual debate.

Based on her resume... She was not qualified to be President, but neither was Obama, and technically, neither was Hillary, although her 8 years in the White House should not be discounted merely because she was the wife of the President. Because we all realize that she is as intelligent as Bill Clinton, and by many accounts, actually had more to do with policy making, than Bill did!

I firmly believe that McCain chose her for one reason.

I think we already agreed previously on this one.

I was afraid to vote for McCain because honestly I wasn't sure he could live through his Presidency,

It's a legitimate concern.

But I wasn't too worried about that personally, because his mother was 96 (97 or 98 now!) and still attending McCain's rallies on occasion. He obviously comes from good genes.

then I thought of an eminently unqualified Palin. Then I thought of an eminently unqualified Obama

"Eminently" is too strong a word for either one of them. Palin had more executive experience than Obama... Obama had more experience understanding the Constitution, having taught constitutional law.

They are both smart. They are both determined. They are both, people of strong convictions. They have both served the country in government.

I would like to see a stronger resume for President.

But I wouldn't call either one, EMINENTLY unqualified.

and the only one left was Biden who I don't like, but who has spent a great many years in Washington and probably would survive a Presidency if God forbid Obama didn't make it to the end of his Presidency. So by a process of elimination of three LOSUY choices and a fourth somewhat LOUSY choice (Biden) I ended up voting for Obama.

I don't blame you.

For me, it came down to "TRUST" primarily. It was VERY difficult to trust Obama, the more that became known about him, like his socialist leanings, and then a rogue's gallery for "mentors" like Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, among others. Even now, he has nominated or already brought into his administration... a self-proclaimed Communist, another one that has argued for animals being allowed to "testify" in court (not making this up) and other questionable or just plain whacky people.

McCain spent 5 1/2 years in a concentration camp as a prisoner of war. He was offered early release after only 6 months when it was found out his father was an Admiral. He refused, because it is our military policy that FIRST IN is FIRST OUT. Prisoners should be released in the same order, they came into the camp. From day one, he was beaten and tortured unmercifully, on average, 5 days EVER WEEK! Anyone would have had enough of that, after 6 months. McCain, from HONOR and CHARACTER alone, WILLINGLY endured 5 MORE YEARS of it. As everyone knows by now, he cannot lift his arms above his head, because the brutalization was so severe, that it impaired him PERMANENTLY.

Someone who endures that, from character alone?

I can TRUST that person, to then lead my nation, with character.

Nevertheless, Obama is President, and I will not disrespect that office, or the person holding it.

Obama is not a bad person. He just has misguided policies.

His spiritual and political mentors, have included radicals, extremists, communists and even former terrorists.

As a result, he has a very radical agenda he has bought into.

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(CNN) - Sarah Palin is slamming a new book about the 2008 presidential campaign that largely portrays the then-vice presidential candidate as wholly unprepared for the national stage and poorly versed in a range of pressing issues.

"These reporters were not any part of what I was doing there as the VP candidate," Palin said on Fox News Tuesday, her first appearance on the network as a paid contributor. "I don't know who they are. I haven't met these guys."

The book – "Game Change," written by political reporters Mark Halperin and John Heilemann - alleges McCain aides quickly grew troubled with Palin's lack of understanding on key issues, including the job of the Federal Reserve, the difference between North and South Korea, and the purpose of the war in Afghanistan.

It's a bunch of BS from [McCain campaign manager Steve] Schmidt and those guys," Palin said. "It's pretty made up."

But the former Alaska governor did confirm one of the book's allegations: not knowing exactly who was behind the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and falsely believing former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein played a role.

"I did talk a lot to Steve Schmidt about the history of the war….could there have been any connection to Saddam [Hussein]," she said. "So I admit that I asked questions about it."

Jake January 13th, 2010 10:48 am ET

People don't move to Alaska because they want to "connect with the rest of the country" yet alone the world. More likely the opposite, i.e. they want to get away from the rest of us Americans with our crimes and multi-cultural ways and all. That's why it's ironic when you have someone who talks about their independence and moves to places where they think they should not be under the US governement's jurisdiction and have to pay taxes and all then talk about how they qualified to manage that very same government. But that's conservatives for you. They get to slam society and all it's "liberalism", but then they don't want to live in the cities in the middle of where it all happens-the violent crimes, poverty, population and pollution that the institutions that contribute to their campaigns perpetuate....they don't want to live where the bulk of Americans live.


Aspen Professor January 13th, 2010 10:48 am ET

Why does any intelligent person pay attention to Palin and her "new" found buddies on the Unfair and Right-Wing-Extremist-Unbalanced News Channel? Their values seem to include: arrogance, hypocrisy, and lying.


Max January 13th, 2010 10:47 am ET

What an airhead.


1776 January 13th, 2010 10:47 am ET

Palin your 15 minutes are way overdue. You're done; let be honest. You are a right wing religious fanatic you really doesn't know much about anything.


Mitch from Omaha January 13th, 2010 10:47 am ET

Well, she IS an idiot, and she WAS wholly unprepared. Is she upset that people are calling her on her utter failure as a person?


urbantexan January 13th, 2010 10:46 am ET

This woman does not
like the media yet she gravitates over to Fixed News to spread the rest of her peas out of her pea brain. If this doesn't show the entire world what an opportunist money hungry hieffer this woman is and a liar to boot.
She's as dumb as a rock and looking out for the almighty which is herself.

She will quit this job like she has quit every school or job she has ever had. Screw her and Fixed News !!!!!! CNN you just love you some Sarah dont 'cha


todd January 13th, 2010 10:46 am ET

Uh, Sarah, we all saw that interview with Couric. You thought being able to see Russia from your home meant you knew foreign policy. You couldn't remember any magazines you read, and you had no idea why we were in Afghanistan.

You were the governor of a state that has a smaller population than many cities, and felt that was enough to run the entire country.

You may be able to appeal to your teabagging base, but you won't win many converts.


Terry in Iowa January 13th, 2010 10:45 am ET

Right, the key points of “Going Rogue” have been shown to be fiction and she couldn’t answer the most basic and simple questions that professional journalists asked, but we’re suppose to take her word. Anyone who believes Sarah is qualified to represent them, at any level, is an uninformed, ignorant idiot and doesn’t deserve the rights and privileges of citizenship.


Tony January 13th, 2010 10:44 am ET

This should not come as a surprise to anyone. Of course she had very little understanding on foreign or even domestic issues. She was a newly elected governor from a state that fails to make national news, unless that news has to do with Palin. Until she got the nod to be a VP candidate, she would have never had to have opinions or knowledge of those issues. Certainly her schooling had nothing do with foreign affairs – she was a sports reporter. Also, her government experience centered around a town of less than 10,000 and a state with less than 1 million.

I have yet to find evidence that she has taken the steps to learn about key foreign and domestic issues and how she still makes national news is beyond me.


ron January 13th, 2010 10:44 am ET

Another CNN hack moment. SNL and the John Stewaert Show show more balance than the CNN ticker. This has become a Dem party propaganda section.


Pat Wohlfarth January 13th, 2010 10:44 am ET

If this woman is ever elected president, I am moving to New Zealand. She is as big an idiot as "W" and that's saying a lot.


PDXChick January 13th, 2010 10:44 am ET

So now *everyone's* a liar, including McCain's own staff. You're supposed to live your life 'righteously', Sarah, not SELF-righteously.


GOPer January 13th, 2010 10:43 am ET

Everybody is lying and Palin is telling the truth. Everybody is out to get Palin because she is so honest, everybody is picking on her. Poor Victim.

Unfortunately for us, Palin is a drag on the GOP. We already voted in one dense GOP President (Bush), the country is not ready for a sequel any time soon.


Mike January 13th, 2010 10:43 am ET

When she refuted these claims, did she give her little wink?


awesome January 13th, 2010 10:42 am ET

ok, we get it, she's completely clueless. If anyone hasnt realized this by now, they are living under a rock. Just listening to the VP debate, Biden had to remind her the limited powers of the VP role. She thought as VP, she would work with the senate! Biden taught her on National Television the VP role with the Senate is limited ONLY to break a tie in a vote. She clearly doesnt undertand the separation of powers in our government.


Jackie January 13th, 2010 10:42 am ET

These people should leave Sarah Palin alone!


George January 13th, 2010 10:42 am ET

She is so full of crap. Maybe she'll learn something by being on Fox News.


hooverguide January 13th, 2010 10:42 am ET

That she was even considered for the position placing her a heart beat from the Presidency remains one of the strangest decisions in American politics.


Ed in Oregon January 13th, 2010 10:41 am ET

Its nice that Fox News can give her a microphone and a friendly atmosphere so that she can voice her side of the story without having to muss around without any pesky "facts" getting in the way. She and Fox make a lovely couple.


Gumby January 13th, 2010 10:41 am ET

Unfortunately she has become just another publicity seeker wanting her 15 minutes of fame, much like a Paris Hilton. Sarah Palin might have had the platform to do some good but she forgot the golden rule and instead loves herself as herself and is out for what she can get, which includes keeping oneself in the spotlight. Talking heads have nothing good to offer our country, They appeal to only the people who are angry, but don't know what they are angry about, What we need are people who will roll up their shirtsleeves and work on helping the USA, not sit back and tell us what is wrong.


spongebob January 13th, 2010 10:41 am ET

An honest Politician who wants to set the record straight. What a concept! It is no wonder the left thrive to find fault with her to attempt to save their crumbling party. More Americans are no longer interested in Parties and are uniting as Americans for what's good for the country. Palin is such a rare find who teeters on neither party. She is truly a rare find. We need more true patriots like her because Dems and Repubs have burned the people out!


csh January 13th, 2010 10:41 am ET

Feel very sorry for anyone simple enough to think this woman is in any way qualified to be President.


Jeff Brown in Jersey January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

Enjoy the limelight while you can Sarah. Your looks are starting to fade and soon people will stop falling over themselves to adore you. You will then be revealed to be the empty vessel you actually are. Sad


Steven Daedalus January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

Its tought to have fun these days but this sure makes me smile. Dufus Republicans.


susan January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

oh God..........she is a piece of art.


pat c. January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

i watched palin on FOX last night and she is saying the same old rehearsed policy quotes. her same message is very tiring and the american people now see she is very much UNQUALIFIED to run for any office of the government. bill o'rily was very soft on her and did not push her to say more than what she has already rehearsed to say about political tactics. she kept looking down as if she had written down her answers before the show. tea party folks will still love her and intelligent people will still think she is stupid. she is in the only job now that will let her get away with ignorance of facts and will go nowhere in the meantime. FOX news did not do a thing to make me want to watch the right attack the left with nothing but lies and distortions of the truth by adding a nobody like sarah palin to their already biased agenda.


MJR January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

I couldn't believe CCN having all their shows aboout Haiti. Trying to help them. And I turn to Fox and here's Palin talking ( I should say lying ) They asked her to be on 60 Min. but she wouldn't . She could have faced them and said what was true. If it was me and someone wrote lies about me , I would want to be face to face with them. That should show anyone with half a brain , SHE'S LYING

Oh, I'm from South and White. These people down here believes if they go to church and say all the right things in the bible, like Palin, Bush and JIM JONES, they are telling the truth.

Why wasn't Fox talking about Haiti and trying to get people to help? I thought they were a News Station.


Jennifer NYC January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

OMG! Let her keep talking so those people who support her for future office will understand once and for all she doesn't comprehend even what is said, let alone elucidate her own thoughts and has little knowledge about anything. Steve Schmidt was so right. All one has to do is listen to her – which is difficult for me, I admit – and you understand she talks wacky and is wacky. The recount that she couldn't get it through her head that Joe Biden's last name was not O'Biden is hilarious but truly sad that John McCain selected this woman without any vetting to put someone like her a heartbeat away from the Presidency. I have lost respect for Senator McCain.


Danny January 13th, 2010 10:40 am ET

Just the fact that Ms. Palin had to ask someone about the history of the war in Iraq speaks volumes. Even a casual observer who watches or reads news reports knows a great deal about this war that's been going on for almost 7 years. For someone involved in politics, even at the state level, to be ignorant about such a major event in our country is inexcusable! Sarah is right where she belongs now...on FOX news...where knowledge of the facts is not important.


Mr. Man January 13th, 2010 10:39 am ET

Well now Sara Palin is not hiding her true colors: Cashing in on McCain's choice of her as a running mate;


Mitch Goulet January 13th, 2010 10:39 am ET

Palin is still as screwy as she was during the campaign. babbling on about anything and every thing and none of it making any sense.
She states, "These reporters were not any part of what I was doing there as the VP candidate," Palin said on Fox News Tuesday, her first appearance on the network as a paid contributor. "I don't know who they are. I haven't met these guys." So basically she is trying to say the individuals making the claims are clueless. sorry to tell you Palin, you are the only clueless one here. She then admits that she does know someone, well I sure would hope so since he was the McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt.
It continues to amaze me why anyone would want this person in charge of anything. She has some serious issues mentally.


JES January 13th, 2010 10:38 am ET

I dont believe a thing this person says. She is a nincompoop.


SGJ January 13th, 2010 10:38 am ET

Commander Dumb-Dumb strikes again. Please – please I beg you to run again.


bill January 13th, 2010 10:38 am ET

shes about as bad as they come


Chris W January 13th, 2010 10:38 am ET

Brilliant that a state governor in 2008 needed a fact check on Saddam's involvement with 911. You know Dick Cheney did his job and why so many people love Sarah Palin. They absolutely do. not. want. to. know.
(her own son was on the way there!?)
Todd Palin, Alaskan Seperatist party 8 year membership... One has to wonder if Sarah and Todd were so detached from America that they thought they had established their own country out of her governorship? Maybe they were sending there own son off to a war they "hadn't really looked into" in some sorta gesture of feudal political tribute and that was all they needed to know at the time.
Till these other idiotic Republican called her up to the Big House.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THESE REPTEPLICANS TRIED TO HOIST THIS SOW ON OUR NATION.


R in Maine January 13th, 2010 10:38 am ET

There is nothing new here. She was never qualified to be VP, or even governor of Alaska. She will fit right in at Fox. They are liars. unfaithful to the United States, and so is she.


Josh January 13th, 2010 10:37 am ET

Dear Lord, what an idiot. It's 2008 and she is asking questions about

"who was behind the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and falsely believing former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein played a role."

On September 12th we knew who was behind the attacks and after a couple years of being in Iraq we knew Saddam had nothing to do with it. This was the person some Republicans wanted to take over the country once McCain croaked? God.

And to think she is being touted as a viable 2012 candidate. Regardless of most of her values, it's an insult to intelligent Republicans to even mention her as a possibility. To be ready for 2012 she'd need to start studying now and take a cheat sheet into the debates and I seriously doubt she'd make the cut.

BTW, I am a Republican.


wake up January 13th, 2010 10:37 am ET

Why does Schmidt even get a mic? The guy is regarded as running the worst campaigns in modern presidential history. The guy needs to lie in order to make any dough. Can journalists be smarter?? Cnn and all other lib networks will do anything discredit Palin.


Gate January 13th, 2010 10:36 am ET

Anyone who still thought Hussein was behind 911 in the 2008 is an absolute moron. This was discredited before the Iraq war. Our commander in chief should be educated on world events long before running for office. She shouldn't have to learn about something that is common knowledge to anyone who casually reads a newspaper. She certainly shouldn't have to learn everything in a 2 week cram session. The Presidency is not like studying for college finals. What a disgrace to her party.


PEACE ON EARTH January 13th, 2010 10:36 am ET

THIS 'woman' is a liar and an idiot and the WHOLE WORLD KNOWS it. (Why again, is there a North and South Korea????)

She is a laughing stock with EVERYONE I chat with AROUND THE WORLD.

She can keep spouting HER 'BS' just as much as she would like. It helps the citizenry of the world to see just what hypocrits and liars the Rethuglicans are.


Jin January 13th, 2010 10:36 am ET

Sarah Palin is making an honest refutation. These guys obviously live in a different universe than her: Reality!! She has obviously learned from the Repugnican media machine...when caught, lie, obfuscate, deflect,
misdirect, dissociate, or simply change the subject. It worked for Reagen and even better for Bush. Who can blame the poor Alaskan bumpkin for using tried and true efforts to salvage something shiney from under all the feces.


Nobodys Perfecft January 13th, 2010 10:35 am ET

Sarah – did you even READ the book? Do you now know what books/periodicals/newspapers you DO read? Most likely, Mark Halperin and John Heilemann did talk to McCain aides to gather info for their book ... otherwise it would be just slander.

You WERE completely unprepared to be VP – you didn't even know what the VP's responsibilities were; you didn't know that Africa was a continent; you didn't know ALOT and still don't know much. Except how to exploit yourself.

FOX snooze will soon learn they made a mistake in "hiring" you. And I'm surprised you didn't quit half way through the first show lol


CitizenJP January 13th, 2010 10:35 am ET

I think it is time Gov. Palin should face her own ignorance and not prolong the game any further.


NYC January 13th, 2010 10:35 am ET

So CNN is saying Sarah Palin is more important than Obama soon to be requesting congress for more $$$ for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan – a Record request – good work – pat yourselves in the back for being subjective CNN.


Annie, Atlanta January 13th, 2010 10:34 am ET

This is what "news" has come to? Someone who thinks Africa is a country and can't understand why there is a No. and So. Korea is a Fox "News" Network contributor. Where can I get a paid gig like that? I actually know that there are two separate Korean countries, and that Africa is actually a continent. This should be a wake up call to all news organizations out there. This is how low you can go. Have you?


kristi January 13th, 2010 10:34 am ET

I imagine Palin is one those christians who feels she can lie about anything because she KNOWS God wants her to make millions. After all, acccording to her, it was God's will that she was chosen as McCain's VP. Sick!


spongebob January 13th, 2010 10:33 am ET

An honest Politician who listens to the people, what a concept. It is no wonder the left thrive to find fault with her. Palin is such a rare find.


Benjamin Dover January 13th, 2010 10:33 am ET

Could this woman be any dumber or more of a delusional liar? I don't think it's possible.


Greg January 13th, 2010 10:32 am ET

Poor reporting CNN... The claim was never that Palin didn't know the difference between North & South Korea, as O'Reilly erroneously questioned her on, it was that she didn't know WHY there was a North & South.


DC Kiwi January 13th, 2010 10:32 am ET

In 2008, she still wasn't sure if Saddam was involved in 9/11? I think even Fox and Cheney had given up that fairytale by then. I'd feel better if she was confused about North and South Korea.


jrm January 13th, 2010 10:32 am ET

Palin is not stupid, just ignorant, an ordinary shortcoming for most mortals, but fatal for aspiring vice-Presidents. She simply hasn't been exposed to what she needs to know, or worse yet, believes what she hears, e.g. what everyone "knew" following 9/11, that Saddam was the culprit. Truth is, Saddam had nothing to do with it, but when facts don't matter, and you just want to hit somebody, Saddam was handy.
I think Palin's ignorance is no worse than most people her age, but I suspect she really doesn't know North from South Korea, let alone the history behind the Korean War. If she's like most people her age, she couldn't tell you whether WWI or WWII came first, let alone why either was fought and what implications that might have for our time.
For an ordinary person, that might be ok, but for a potential president, that's pitiful.


Mark in Tennessee January 13th, 2010 10:32 am ET

I followed the GOP primaries and watched the debates. That woman (Palin) didn't know jack about anything other than what's going on in Wasilla or Juneau. She had international experience because she could see Russia from Alaska (wink) – what a joke. And we were suppose to take her seriously as a VP nominee? John McCain really screwed up by picking her.


sheila January 13th, 2010 10:31 am ET

More dribble from this incompetant woman. Why can 't people see she is a narsasistic, uneducated, self made politician that makes up big stories. She takes it straight out of the POLITICAL playbook - Say it often enough and they will believe it. Sarah keeps trying to convince us she is something she is not. People are like sheep and they follow this garbage like birds following bird seed. We need strong leadership in this country and not a loud, screaming, nasty, uneducated woman politician that will further the divide in this country. Just because she's a woman doesn't advance the cause for woman – she only makes us look stupid.


Palin Shmalin January 13th, 2010 10:30 am ET

What a DITZ!


jenn, philadelphia January 13th, 2010 10:29 am ET

And I was worried I wouldn't get my dose of useless Palin news from CNN.


SandyB January 13th, 2010 10:29 am ET

What does "It's pretty made up" mean? My gosh, we're so lucky not to have this women in line to be president.

I was condemning people, for fabricating things about her. Calling her stupid, incapable, inept, whatever... When people resort to extremism that has no merit in reality, merely because of political opposition, then having a rational conversation is impossible. You can't have a legitimate conversation about someone's merits and achievements versus their faults and weaknesses, when one of the participants is trying to discuss reality, and the other is embellishing and exaggerating beyond recognition.

Brother, that is the truth. And it happens in EVERY type of debate, whether it's political or religious.

I was condemning people, for fabricating things about her. Calling her stupid, incapable, inept, whatever...

Craig, I'm not sure you know the meaning of those words. Because fact is, Palin was incapable, inept and just plain old ignorant. She was not ready to be on the national stage, let along put in a position of power. She knew virtually nothing about the issues - her knowledge level was clearly lacking. And that isn't "made up" stuff - that is direct evidence from her speaking in public and being interviewed. She clearly was not ready and DID NOT KNOW what she was talking about.

It wasn't just Democrats that were horror stricken with her - she had plenty of people in her own party who thought she was unprepared as well.

Could she have learned about the issues? Sure - she probably could have. But I didn't see or hear anything from her that ever suggested she was an above average intelligent person capable of understanding the complexity of the issues at hand. You can train people to parrot stuff, but that doesn't mean they possess the critical thinking skills to make connections on their own and derive decisions. Palin's unpreparedness revealed a lot about her character.


And lest you think this is just a left-wing attack on Palin - you will be hard pressed to find someone who admired John McCain more than me prior to that election. If McCain would have run in 2004 instead of Bush. I could have easily voted Republican.

As a veteran, I admire the guy for his service and his time in a prison camp. And I think McCain is the ideal Republican because, prior to the election, he didn't bow down to the extreme Christian radical right win. He valued the core Republican ideals - small government, personal liberties, fiscal responsibility. If those three ideals were once again the basis of the Republican party and McCain was the guy at the point, I could support that easy.

McCain was a guy who was willing to work with Democrats for the greater good. McCain was a guy who wanted to do what was best for the American people. McCain was a guy who supported the BEST IDEA no matter which side of the isle it came from. And that's what a great leader does. He doesn't care where the idea came from, or who gets credit, he cares about championing the best idea and making it work.

But I say "was" because once the election got rolling, and once the Republican strategists took over, McCain sacrificed his integrity and his ideals. He allowed the Republican strategists to push Palin into his ticket, and allowed the Republican party to manipulate his campaign and turn it into a mud slinging war with some pretty outrageous and dirty tactics. It was shameful. I don't think that campaign was the true McCain at work. I think everything he did in congress prior to that campaign was more the true McCain.


Bottom line for me: McCain = great man. Palin = ditzy, unprepared, ignorant. If you can't see the difference between the two then I don't know what to say.

My question is this.
Does it matter?
Haiti was just about destroyed today, it didn't have much before this but now it has even less. No infrastructure and possibly without severe intervention no future either. (Louisiana comes to mind here too).

So does it really matter, mean anything.

Sorry folks.

A big flat no.

Well, I doubt very much that she's boned up on her knowledge of anything since the election, either. She's been too busy trying to find a way to polish up her tarnished image.

"They all lied about me!"

Is this the cry of the ultimate media victim, or the words of someone who flooked up too many times to count & remains without a clue?

Seriously, do you think any of her claims are real?

The Couric interview couldn't have been more fair, imo. Isn't it a logical question to ask where a candidate gets thier info, from what news sources? But forget that "left-wing attack" for a moment, & look at how she couldn't even adequately answer questions from the right.

She should open a beauty school, & get as far from politics as she can, if she wants to look good, cuz she's still looking like a bimbo to me.

I liked McCain in 2000. I even considered him in 2008, before he picked Palin. But after that stupid move I decided he was too weak to get my vote. And apparently most of the country did as well. Everytime she opens her mouth she sounds dumber. I hope Fox keeps her for a long time, but she'll probably quit given her track record.

What a socialist ,communist , forum this has become. All the problems you face are because of your thinking. You guys are getting so far away from the AMERICAN ideals this country was founded on are being destroyed.

I wish I had enough money to buy you all plane tickets to the perfect country of your choice.

Bill of rights... LIFE, LIBERTY ,PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. What everyone seems to FORGET, ,,,, It is also your own personal responsibuility ,to your family, your neighbor, your Friends, your community, your state , your country, your world. I Know most of you will read this wrong unless you stop and engage your brains.

If you expect BIG govt to solve all your personal problems

Craig, I'm not sure you know the meaning of those words. Because fact is, Palin was incapable, inept and just plain old ignorant.

Ignorant of some things... yes. Incapable, inept and stupid? NO!

Ignorance is remedied, and very quickly so, by an intelligent and motivated person, which she is.

To Bill Clinton's credit, when everyone was making a big deal out of the fact that Bush did not know the name of the President of Malaysia, or some other small country, Clinton's response suggested that they were making too big a deal out of it, because as President, he would learn them quickly enough. It was not, as I recall, said in derision, but Bill gave an honest response, alluding to the fact that not everyone COMING IN will be knowledgeable about every detail of world affairs, but they ALL will know these people first-hand quickly enough.

Someone with several doctorates who writes history and geography books for a living, may have a great deal of knowledge of world affairs, both historically and currently, and yet this would mean NOTHING on how they would govern, and what type of president they would be.

Some of our best presidents have been well educated, and some of our best presidents have had very limited education.

How much do you think she understood about being a Governor before becoming one? But she had an 80% approval rating, well into her term... until she wet the pants of the Democrats.

She is VERY CAPABLE and she would have made a fine Vice President. She is smart. Not intimidated easily. She learns quickly.

SHE WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE!
SHE IS HONEST!
SHE IS REAL!

You have not heard the last from Sarah Palin.

You will regret the things you have said in the future.

Trust me.

She was not ready to be on the national stage,

Yes she was. And is.

You can't see this because you can't get past her lack of resume and her not being a foreign relations wiz. Like Bill Clinton rightly said, she would learn that fast enough.

This is why I would run a corporation better than you would. The best investment a company can make, is in good people. A good executive interviews someone for mere minutes, and gets a good sense of what that person would mean to the company. You can know in minutes, that this person will be loyal, and handle everything I put before them.

She is like that. A good investment. She would be loyal to the nation's interests and she would work FOR THE PEOPLE!

Character, integrity, work ethic, concern for the people she represents, intelligence, determination, honesty, etc... There are many things one should consider when choosing a leader.

She has all the important ones.

She had plenty of executive experience and proved herself on different levels of government, rising to the ranks of Governor of her entire state.

let along put in a position of power.

She's already held positions of power.

She knew virtually nothing about the issues -

Not true.

her knowledge level was clearly lacking.

That's true.

Palin's unpreparedness revealed a lot about her character.

No it doesn't.

It reveals that she's been waaaaay outside the beltway, governing the State of Alaska which if you were driving there, may require that you bring your passport, because you will be going into Canada first, and then BACK INTO the United States.

Her state is isolated from mainland USA, and at times would seem like a whole other country. It is one of the most majestically beautiful places on Earth, and often referred to as "The Last Frontier" in America, because it is MASSIVE and much of it, still wild and untouched by industry. In fact, Alaska is so large, and yet not highly populated for it's size, because of it's distance from mainland America and it's climate, that major highways don't always connect there. She governed a near paradise, where natural beauty and wilderness are concerned.

Why would she give a rat's ass about becoming an expert of foreign policy in that role? And in that state? People live more simply there, and more in tune with the natural world. It is like a time capsule of the good parts of America that are being lost everywhere else.

Washington could use a breath of fresh Palin, bringing some of those values back into a capital that is so far removed from average Americans, that it should be given a Green Card and declared a Resident Alien, and the Department of Immigration making unscheduled home visits... just to be careful.

It's true... this woman has NOT been a Washington DC insider for decades.

Guess what?

THAT'S THE APPEAL!!!

And lest you think this is just a left-wing attack on Palin - you will be hard pressed to find someone who admired John McCain more than me prior to that election. If McCain would have run in 2004 instead of Bush. I could have easily voted Republican.

As a veteran, I admire the guy for his service and his time in a prison camp. And I think McCain is the ideal Republican because, prior to the election, he didn't bow down to the extreme Christian radical right win. He valued the core Republican ideals - small government, personal liberties, fiscal responsibility. If those three ideals were once again the basis of the Republican party and McCain was the guy at the point, I could support that easy.

McCain was a guy who was willing to work with Democrats for the greater good. McCain was a guy who wanted to do what was best for the American people. McCain was a guy who supported the BEST IDEA no matter which side of the isle it came from. And that's what a great leader does. He doesn't care where the idea came from, or who gets credit, he cares about championing the best idea and making it work.

Agree with every bit of that.

He should have been President in 2000. Many Democrats and Independents would have voted for him, and he was going to take on campaign finance reform, which is sorely needed, to help bring our country back to the people.

My favorite uncle, who almost always votes Democrat was going to vote for him, and me, a life-long Republican was going to vote for him.

If he and I agreed on this? You know, McCain is one hell of an individual, with support across both sides of the political spectrum. But Bush Family money and connections and dirty tricks... STOLE IT! And it was never to be.

McCain will never be President now.

2008 was his last shot.

Bottom line for me: McCain = great man. Palin = ditzy, unprepared, ignorant. If you can't see the difference between the two then I don't know what to say.

You're wrong about Palin.

All she lacks is a little knowledge, and she is doing exactly what she needs to right now, to get it, and position herself for the future.

She is nobody's dog.

McCain's ass-wipes for advisers manhandled her, and kept her from being herself. Now when they are needing further employment in the next guy's campaign, they are exaggerating sh*t to make themselves look better, and writing books with half-made-up sh*t to get some money in their pockets.

She was being sued every other day in Alaska by people who are pissed off that she gave McCain such a boost, making the obvious (anything but a Republican) not so obvious anymore.

So she left the Governorship, feeling it was wasting the tax-payers money having to deal with seemingly daily frivolous lawsuits, not to mention her staff, doing nothing but fielding phone calls every day for media requests, etc...

Palin did the right thing.

In removing herself as a target... she protected her state, and removed them from the controversies and wasted government money, spent defending her against all these ridiculous charges, of which EVERY ONE ends up getting thrown out, but only AFTER the expense of lawyers (state paid) and depositions filed, etc...

It allowed her to promote her book, consider her options, and set herself up for the national stage, and this time... ON HER TERMS!

She thought McCain's handlers were inept and made bad judgements.

She is out from under their shadow, and out from under the tax-payer's responsibility, and can be her own woman again.

She's making worthy and deliberate moves for the future.

She's not going anywhere.

She wants to serve her country in time of confusion and crisis, and she wants to show, people who just repeat, made-up party-line mantras about her, that they don't know a damn thing, and she is about to prove them all wrong!

Go Sarah!!!

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