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#149713 by PaperDog
Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:47 am
I have officially been off cigarettes, cold turkey for 1 year and 4 months.

Ah ainna gonna lie.. I miss the sh*t outta them. Even now, when I smell a cigarette, I get all tingly... them was the good ol days

#149717 by MikeTalbot
Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:57 am
Work with me for a couple days. I'm working a development project with the Mortality Group / Biometrics at an insurance company. Several people have quit smoking since looking at the acturarial data. Apparently, it really does kill you.

That said, the next time I get addicted to something I hope its less of hassle quitting - maybe heroin or something easy like that. I wish I'd never seen a cigarette but yep, I'd love to have one.

talbot

#149720 by PaperDog
Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:25 am
MikeTalbot wrote:Work with me for a couple days. I'm working a development project with the Mortality Group / Biometrics at an insurance company. Several people have quit smoking since looking at the acturarial data. Apparently, it really does kill you.

That said, the next time I get addicted to something I hope its less of hassle quitting - maybe heroin or something easy like that. I wish I'd never seen a cigarette but yep, I'd love to have one.

talbot


All I can say is that its a very slow death. You may find the following very useful: (These are my Observations based on numerous conversations I have had with others that decided to quit): Banning, General Surgeon warnings, legislative acts, suggesting, demanding, lecturing about the ills of smoking is a guarantee that smokers will NOT quit if you subject them to the aforementioned. So, what will get people to quit? I have a strong theory:

The TRIPLE PLAY IN A BLANKET (My definition):
The Triple play borrows three components of human state and personality:
1) Ego/Vanity
2) Psychic Benefit (Economical prowess and comfort)
3) Health-(sense of wellness)
If any or all of these three are sufficiently violated or attacked by the physical consequences of smoking, there is a good chance the smoker will quit: Heres the break down

Ego /Vanity: Aesthetics, Smoking effected a relationship resulting in the loss of a mate, who left because of the complications of smoking, Appearances due to metabolic changes in body i.e aggravated diseases, weight gain or loss, skin aggravation, odors, bad breath, yellow teeth, smelly clothes, yellowing walls. Also includes behavior which portray us in a bad light, like searching the garbage for a cigarette butt (juxtaposed with desperation) , etc anything that attacks our sense of beauty, grace and desirability in the eyes of others. Some folks see this as a paramount dilemma and opt to sustain ego/vanity over the cigarette addiction.

Psychic Benefit:: Lets do some math: A carton = @60 bucks now, depending on your state taxes and laws.
If a "pack-a-day" smoker buys his own smokes, then 30 days/10 = 3; 3 X 60 = $180.00 per month to support the habit.
Double that for "2-pack-a-day" smokers.
Sticking with the minimum, 180 bucks can pay a utility, treat a date, feed the pets, repair the car, replace some clothes, etc... The loss of this expendable income, in the context of becoming financial obliged to the habit, tends to destroy some minor degree of security. When combined with the physical taxation of energy caused by smoking, we stand to get 'depressed' about our financial position. (even if slight) But , with some people, that is compelling enough to get them to quit smoking.

Health (Sense or Wellness) Its not secret here...Cigarettes are treated with copious amounts of chemicals, which over time..well something has to give ...in the body. Loss of energy is a biggie. There actually comes a point where a person gets so sick from the smoking...or so tired of feeling less than able, that they get fed up with feeling like sh*t all the time..and that compels them to quit smoking.


Sometimes its a combination of all three. If you look closely they all could tie back to ego and vanity. But its not the TRIPLE PLAY ALONE that does it... rather, It's that in conjunction with THE BLANKET (aka the threat of death or disability ) which makes it the deal breaker . In my case, it was the third component of the triple play in the blanket that really did it for me.

Please feel free to use this as a baseline for your research. (Just make sure you mention me somewhere in your book LOL!)[/b]

#149732 by gbheil
Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:55 pm
Came close to buying some cigars today as I was gassing the truck and getting ice for our show this afternoon.

Glad I did not.

#149736 by MikeTalbot
Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:21 pm
At lunch time I walk at the mall - hate malls but love the A/C and need the exercise. There is a poor sap there hawking electronic cigs. I really feel for the guy. Everyone, and the chicks in particular, look at him with this sort of desparate contempt. Most un-PC job in the world.

Talbot

ps Dog - you are right. The more my wife bitched at me about smoking the harder it was to quit.

#149738 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:24 pm
5 years,47 days,6 hours, 23 minutes, and 32 seconds. That's how long I "Quit Smoking" after smoking for 35 years.
I had a "VIVID" dream, about smoking a cigarette, woke up and went out and bought a pack, and lit up, since I had already stopped quitting in my dream.
ALL THESE ANTI TOBACCO A-HOLES THAT JUST WANT TO PUNISH SMOKERS WITH THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAS SHOULD JUST GO TO HELL!!!
Stop ramming it down peoples throats, taxes, laws, and your own RIGHTEOUS OPINIONS. You don't have a clue. Go F yourselves you TOTALLY UN AMERICAN BASTARDS!!!! This kind of intolerance is going to end this country, especially when it comes to dealing with really important issues.

On the plus side, I agree tobacco is really worse than people realize. I have given up quitting, but if I have a smoke every other week, at least I don't have anyone telling me I can't have a smoke.
I have tons of info about controlling this nasty "habit" (addiction) Email me if interested. Just had a DOT physical BP 115/73. Lungs clear ( from last Xrays) Not that bad for an old man that had his first smoke when he was 4. I'm not condoning anything, but I won't even tell myself what I can't do!
:evil:

#149740 by PaperDog
Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:28 pm
GlenJ wrote:5 years,47 days,6 hours, 23 minutes, and 32 seconds. That's how long I "Quit Smoking" after smoking for 35 years.
I had a "VIVID" dream, about smoking a cigarette, woke up and went out and bought a pack, and lit up, since I had already stopped quitting in my dream.
ALL THESE ANTI TOBACCO A-HOLES THAT JUST WANT TO PUNISH SMOKERS WITH THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAS SHOULD JUST GO TO HELL!!!
Stop ramming it down peoples throats, taxes, laws, and your own RIGHTEOUS OPINIONS. You don't have a clue. Go F yourselves you TOTALLY UN AMERICAN BASTARDS!!!! This kind of intolerance is going to end this country, especially when it comes to dealing with really important issues.

On the plus side, I agree tobacco is really worse than people realize. I have given up quitting, but if I have a smoke every other week, at least I don't have anyone telling me I can't have a smoke.
I have tons of info about controlling this nasty "habit" (addiction) Email me if interested. Just had a DOT physical BP 115/73. Lungs clear ( from last Xrays) Not that bad for an old man that had his first smoke when he was 4. I'm not condoning anything, but I won't even tell myself what I can't do!
:evil:



There isn't a day that goes by that I dont crave a cigarette... I tell people that I have a new fantasy, where I dive into beds of tobacco leaves and waller in them... If I am ever told by a doctor that I only have a short time left to live,. my first response is gonna be to buy a pack of smokes...

#149747 by gbheil
Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:46 pm
Tobacco is poison ... I see the proof daily.

Damn shame, I really enjoy a cigar now and again.

Smoke all ye want ... we got plenty morphine.

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