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#27209 by Paleopete
Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:34 pm
but in the end, it's his weakness to stand up for himself and what he believes in that is the ultimate nail in the coffin.


I have to agree, the bottom line is in most cases the guy doesn't have the guts to stand up for himself and the music he apparently doesn't really believe in. I hate to let a good musician go, but if he (or she) lets it happen, it shows me a lack of dedication and a lack of intestinal fortitude, it won't last no matter what I do or say, so as soon as it becomes a problem I'm ready to show them the door.

I've seen the same thing plenty times, and always had the same opinion of it. Playing in a band is your job, like any other job. Your other half shouldn't interfere with your job, and you shouldn't let it happen. If you do you're not really committed and dedicated to it.

When I'm involved with a lady I always make it clear I will not tolerate that kind of thing. My usual stance is - you met me with a guitar in my hand, you knew it, I will keep playing no matter what. If she simply can't handle it - see ya...

Yeah, I'm intolerant, but I refuse to let that happen. I've seen too many guys let their wives and girlfriends pressure them into leaving a band or cause so much friction the band lets them go. I don't have much respect for either of them. I usually make it clear from the beginning it won't work, rather than waiting until it becomes an issue, that solves 90% of the problems without much hassle.

Fortunately I've only had to deal with one, it stopped before it got started good, it's too hard to find a decent band to let that crap get in the way. The lady I've been dating the past 3 years is without a doubt the best I've ever been involved with, we're not getting serious at all and don't want to, it's no boyfriend/girlfriend thing and never will be, but we are best friends and she's there almost every time I play, helps load and unload (even when her back hurts and I tell her not to), always shows up ready to go ahead of time, is my biggest fan, except for maybe my niece, and even let me use her truck when mine was down for repairs.

On the other hand, she loves to dance and I'm not even close to a dancer, so if she dances all night with other guys I don't get upset about it, in fact I like to see her enjoying herself. (in her younger days she also danced professionally, ballroom stuff) I always have to smile when I see her on the dance floor having the time of her life, she would rather dance than eat. We do manage to grab a slow dance now and then during breaks, and I basically suck at that but she doesn't complain. But the rest of the time she dances with anyone she wants to, that's her call. The way I see it, if I handled it any other way I'd be no better than the jealous wife causing grief. We have one understanding, she walks in the door with me, she walks out with me. As far as dancing with the guys goes, I see no reason she should have to sit there and not dance while I play, that wouldn't be fair to her at all. Why should I be onstage doing what I love while she sits there not doing what she loves??? Unfortunately too many people don't see it that way, from either point of view.

#27213 by jw123
Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:47 pm
Sounds like a keeper to me.

#27216 by gbheil
Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:04 pm
You are a better man than I gunga Pete. I'm a lot calmer as I age but if my ol lady was having such a good time dancing with another guy I'd done gone all red neck and want to pop a cap on somebodys ass. I know thats a fault of mine and not hers. And one reason I will no longer drink alcohol in public. But for me dancing is a sexual expression, and I really dont care if others agree with me or not its how I feel and thats what matters. Another personality flaw I guess. Jeanette loves me even though I can be an ass, and she protects my feelings.
(and keeps me outa prison).

#27224 by scarletrust
Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:25 pm
My ex-wife was in my band. (The band issues were not the reason for our marital split, BTW. Our marital split was definitely the reason the band broke up! :P ) Our drummer's wife was a pain in the ass tho'. She's not even a musician, but she'd come to rehearsal with him, and then criticize our process. Also, she acted like we were stealing their couple time. Over two hours a week?!! AAAAARGH!!!! Go away!

#27228 by gbheil
Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:30 pm
Eric's wife almost always comes with him (bassest). She's great, she will sit and read and listen, sometimes she will tell us Ok guys that sucked or that was really nice. But for the most part she is just there for him. Awsome gal.

#27342 by Irminsul
Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:03 pm
When I was 18, I was in a band whose other guitarist had a girlfriend named Justine. She would fall alseep with her head INSIDE the drummer's bass drum.

Oh, and she eventually slept with all the band members except me (something inside said to tell her NO)....and gave them all genital warts.

Hurray me!

#27344 by gbheil
Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:04 pm
EEEEOOOOOOOWWWWWWW !!!

#27345 by HowlinJ
Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:06 pm
Witch with no warts?
NONESENSE!

#27362 by Starfish Scott
Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:33 pm
Genital warts>? Heat up the heat gun. LOL

#27376 by Irminsul
Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:55 am
More like the cold gun....they had to have a physician "burn" them off with a nitrogen gun.

#27377 by Starfish Scott
Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:00 am
OooOoOoooOooooooooh that smarts. lol

#27380 by band_inquire@bellsouth.ne
Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:57 am
WOW!

BOY did I hit some nerves with all the men here! Why so bitter? So what you're not that young hard bodied rocker you say you were. Who cares... then this post is not for you.

But no... I offended you by posting what I was looking for.

My post was to attract someone who would say ..... hey that's me! ck me out!

But instead I get the same guys asking the name of the band even when I have said numerous of times it's confidential because of the nature of things. And because they don't know what the meaning of "confidential" is they start throwing insults. It's moronic

You've wasted my time with your insecurities and your silly outlandish posts, so go cry on your girls shoulder, and try to man up!

I wrote a comment and said to sanshouheil that after hearing his tunes.... he's not for us and next thing he's saying is that I smoke crack. Grow up mama's boy!

Enjoy the post children!

And for those of you who have joined in with positive words ..... Thank you.

#27391 by Irminsul
Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:26 am
Good Lord, relax will ya? I think there have been some interesting responses to your post. When you put something out there, you cannot control what you get back, you know.

And this thing about confidential band names, really, that sounds strange. How the hell will that ever wash when you are trying to make a name for yourself? "We're the band that we cannot name for confidential reasons! Hire us for your next massive concert opener!"

#27396 by Lony
Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:01 am
or boyfriends/husbands for that matter!
I can tell you many a suffocating story. My ex boyfriend was so jealous and controlling or insecure, that he had to go to every bandrehearsal where I went to and just sat there, for the whole 3 hours woul djust sit in that already so small room. he was nice and everything, talk to the guys an dhang out, get them beers, very cool, still, he would just make it uncomfortable. and if I happend to be sweaty and swing out my shirt ( wearing a normal tanktop by the way underneath it) he would just rant and rage afterwards for three days.
Pissed he'd make me
And now, much happier now but I can so notice, when I am at the computer or in my jamming room, recording stuff or just writing and rehearsing, I can tell he is uncomfortable when I am away fpr hours in a row.
but I think maybe in this current situatuion it is just me, having fear of the 'repetitive history" situation.
Please, I wanna be free! But I cannot say my currrent boyfriend doesn't love me, he does love me very much and I am very happy. I think I just still nee dto get over the (7 year lasting) former one. He was so controlling, if I would go to concerts with my sister he would always, one way or the other, make such a drama, before or after!
Anyway, just thought I'd mention too: my current boyfriend is in teh bizz and I am so easy with it, I travel a lot with himand when he is gone it is no problem. He is manager of an artist who happens to be married and my best female friend!!
So not all girls are "trouble" I actually made the gig so much more fun for him!!!
peace, Lony

#27413 by philbymon
Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:06 am
sanshouheil wrote:But for me dancing is a sexual expression.


Damn, sans, lighten up...let someone else handle the foreplay, would ya? You still get the easy part... :lol:

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& a personal message to lady whoever-you-are that posted this thread in hopes to solve the problems of the band-that-is-to-remain-nameless...

My GOODness! I think you DO need that cookie & a hug. Such angry lashing out...it's not good for your complexion.

I mean, if I WERE that perfect guitarist or whatever you're looking for (I've long since lost interest), your angry retorts would have me avoiding your band like the plague cuz you seem like an interfering busybody nasty lady when you act like that...I HAVE checked you out...if only you were a nicer person...perhaps the pressure of being a "band-wife" has gotten to you.

It's such a shame. I can see why the band is losing interest & impetus, & I doubt it has anything to do with thier gf's.

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