da-vo musicman wrote:Wasted...no gain?...I do understand why you think that way but because of men like my father and perhaps someone you know we in America ARE NOT SPEAKING CHINESE.Thank you for your well wish for him and yes he did recover in some ways but in most he did not
Eh, I disagree. If we had stopped, & I mean TRULY stopped, the North Koreans, we wouldn't be having the threats we're having today from ol' Kimmy-boy. We did not.
No gain. China was their ally, true, but if we had defeated the NK's, or even actually worked toward that goal, I doubt that they would have intervened any more than they did.
Hard to say what would have happened either way, in retrospect, but we entered Korea with no real goals to achieve anything but a stand-off, & that's all we accomplished. It's the way we've done everything in "war" since WWII.
Frankly, it often looks to me as if Korea & Viet Nam were merely dress reheasals for "real" war, to test new technologies in war-like scenarios. A hell of a waste of human life & limb, though, in the long run, with no one being the winner & everyone losing ppl. There were some nifty new war machines & technologies, though, on both sides. Zippadee-doo-dah!
Gimme true war with real goals, but please don't give me "pre-emptive strikes" (read "unprovoked attacks") against a "maybe" threat & tell me it's a "just war," when you gain nothing from it -
not even the defeat of your enemy. The threats are still out there. The ppl's within the countries we invade are angrier at us than they were before, & justifiably so, since their lot is no better than it was before we struck.
In spite of the Korean war, the Korean threat remains. In spite of our efforts in Viet Nam, the communists rule, & we left in shame, in many ppl's eyes. In spite of our efforts in Iraq, the ppl are, in some ways, worse off than they were before our intervention. Same in Afganistan.
War should be a very last resort against a ppl who have attacked us or our allies. It should be waged against countries with anything necessary that we have in our arsenals to bring an end to the actions that caused the war. It should have reason to begin, with the goal of our enemies' eradication in our sights at all times. Once the goal is achieved, the war should end, & peace processes begin.
We have not engaged in a war since WWII. It has all been "police actions." In a police action, we should be working in unison with other countries to assure world peace against a specific group who perform illegal activities against humanity, such as the current situation with Al Qaida & the Taliban. The goal in a police action should be truly stopping the threat, not playing cat & mouse with them, or allowing them to train in facilities that we have full knowledge of.
We should have joined with other countries to invade certain areas of Pakistan long ago, to remove those training facilities. We have not. There should have been economic sanctions against every country whose citizens participated in 9/11. There were not. We have taught no one to leave us alone, & we have taught no one that to attack us means serious repercussions against their country & its ppl. We have given them no incentive to stop, & they continue to plot & to attack our ppl, knowing that there will be no recourse against their families & countrymen & those with whom they pray. There will be no end to it all until it is ended with true force, not this mamby-pamby cop-on-every-corner sh*t that we have been trying for the last 60+ years. It's pretty obvious that it hasn't worked, so why do we still fo it?
If I were your father, or someone like him who had experienced the things he & others did, I would be a bitter man, indeed. The enemy he fought against still remains, & still threatens, for all his efforts & losses. We did not honor his loss. We did not finish what we started. There are untold others who share his fate, & I weep for them in my heart as I see our gov't continue as if what they do is right. Time & again the threats from our past rise again to threaten us, & time & again we simply try to hold them at bay instead of working to make any real changes.