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#76620 by ZXYZ
Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:42 am
I aint no theory graduate. Dont be callin' me no theory graduate :lol:

#76630 by ratsass
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:54 am
ColorsFade wrote:I have not been playing it in C. So don't go hurting yourself on account of my slip.


You just can't say nothin' on here without catchin' Hell, can you? :) I'll probably get in trouble for using a double negative. :lol:
Hey, how many times have you been in a music store and heard some kid just starting out on guitar, playing that riff with G A B, G A C B, G A B A G? I've heard 'em do that a hundred times. I just smile to myself and think, "I hope they figure that out someday". he he he.

#76659 by jsantos
Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:13 pm
I don't know what the big deal is with playing a song in different keys?

You can play "Smoke on the Water" in G, or C or even Eb. Its called TRANSPOSING.

Real musicians do it all the time to accommodate the vocalist's range.

#76667 by ZXYZ
Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:20 pm
"Real musicians" ? :lol:

#76670 by ratsass
Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:32 pm
jsantos wrote:Real musicians do it all the time to accommodate the vocalist's range.


They wouldn't have to if they had a "real" vocalist. :)

#76671 by ZXYZ
Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:48 pm
LOL!

#76676 by Chippy
Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:09 pm
Even that wouldn't matter if you had a real audience.

#76677 by jsantos
Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:39 pm
Sorry, I guess I missed the rule that you HAVE to sing a song in the key its written in. I'll take your word for it. Peace!

#76679 by Chippy
Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:58 pm
Santos I am only pullin yah leg.. :D
Life's too short and sings in many keys 'n' colors.
Keep well Dude.

jsantos wrote:Sorry, I guess I missed the rule that you HAVE to sing a song in the key its written in. I'll take your word for it. Peace!

#76680 by jsantos
Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:02 pm
Chippy wrote:Santos I am only pullin yah leg.. :D
Life's too short and sings in many keys 'n' colors.
Keep well Dude.


haha EXCELLENT!! True...... life is too short!

I think if I had the talent for singing aside from guitar, I would have a better career in music.

I envy artists who can sing well and play guitar.

#76685 by ZXYZ
Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:29 pm
I envy artists who can sing well and play guitar.

Me too! :D

#76691 by HowlinJ
Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:56 pm
jsantos wrote:I don't know what the big deal is with playing a song in different keys?

You can play "Smoke on the Water" in G, or C or even Eb. Its called TRANSPOSING.

Real musicians do it all the time to accommodate the vocalist's range.


Right on JSantos!

I became somewhat adept at transposing back in the late 60's when I played in a band with a "front man" singer who had a good ear for pitch, great stage presence, but very limited range.

Also, back when we used vinyl to work out songs, you sometimes got tripped up if your turntable wasn't turning at the right speed. I recall the first time I worked out Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin... In F sharp.. Imagine my surprise , when after attempting to play it at rehearsal, everyone else worked it out in G! ( It was a hell of a lot easier in G, but F# would have been just as cool. That is probably when I realized that there really isn't any real RIGHT way to play a song, as long as everyone else is in the same key and is somewhat hip to the arrangement.

HJ

#76693 by ratsass
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:23 pm
Hey, Howlin', you ever hear that band Thunder do their version of "Gimme Some Lovin'"? Here's a live vid of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU2AzdaqQ1Y

JSantos, yeah, I was just kiddin' around too. I try to do the songs where they were originally done, but I can transpose just as easily. I don't do it when I'm singing. If I can't sing it in the original range, I just don't do that song, but I've been in other bands with a vocalist that had us transpose to fit his voice. No biggie.

#76694 by jsantos
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:24 pm
HowlinJ wrote:
Right on JSantos!

I became somewhat adept at transposing back in the late 60's when I played in a band with a "front man" singer who had a good ear for pitch, great stage presence, but very limited range.

Also, back when we used vinyl to work out songs, you sometimes got tripped up if your turntable wasn't turning at the right speed. I recall the first time I worked out Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin... In F sharp.. Imagine my surprise , when after attempting to play it at rehearsal, everyone else worked it out in G! ( It was a hell of a lot easier in G, but F# would have been just as cool. That is probably when I realized that there really isn't any real RIGHT way to play a song, as long as everyone else is in the same key and is somewhat hip to the arrangement.

HJ


I find it so much harder to transpose music on keyboard because of the the linear keys. The chord pattern can change drastically. On guitar, its easier because the chord patterns and they way you fret stays the mostly same, just a different position on the neck. Sometimes all you need is a capo if the song is simple enough. That's a funny story about the turntable!

#76703 by HowlinJ
Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:54 am
[quote="ratsass"]Hey, Howlin', you ever hear that band Thunder do their version of "Gimme Some Lovin'"? Here's a live vid of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU2AzdaqQ1Y
/quote]

Those cats were rockin'! They pumped her up with fresh energy, but stayed true to form to Winwood's masterpiece!

Thanks Rat! :)

HJ

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